Still doesn't justify bashing a particular person in that career. I am a certified Master Auto Tech, have a degree in Automotive Science, and am 100% honest and reliable to my customers. Naturally I get branded as a "mechanic just like the rest", meaning that I want to rip people off. Fact is, unless you know the person that you are talking to, don't bash their career. For all you know (not directly pointed at you), BLF could be that cop that helps YOU instead of the other guy, because he believes in his oath and career.

 

I dont think its an anti-LEO thing as much as an anti public employee thing. With the economy still down and taxes (esp property taxes in NJ) ridiculously high, most people want to cut anything they see those taxes go for, whereas the public employee wants a raise. Teachers in my town got raises the last few years when everyone was struggling.

Sorry.. I believe teachers should be paid more so you get quality people in there. It all starts with education.

I dont think its an anti-LEO thing as much as an anti public employee thing. With the economy still down and taxes (esp property taxes in NJ) ridiculously high, most people want to cut anything they see those taxes go for, whereas the public employee wants a raise. Teachers in my town got raises the last few years when everyone was struggling.

 

And look what happened to the teachers....People will always complain about their taxes and and the pay of public employees. Once the education starts struggling, and the crime rate goes up, what's the first thing those same people do? They complain some more about how teachers, cops, fireman...all suck. This is a merry-go-round of B.S. that people will never be satisfied.

I think they public employees all need to come back to earth. There are people taking jobs for ½ of what they made just two years ago without a pension and paying for their benefits out of pocket. They are still bing taxed 30%-50% to pay salaries 3, 4 and 5+ times what they make to people that will be retired by the age of 55 while they are looking at possibly having to work well into their 70s. If you can't understand the problem you are obviously part of the problem.

I think they public employees all need to come back to earth. There are people taking jobs for ½ of what they made just two years ago without a pension and paying for their benefits out of pocket. They are still bing taxed 30%-50% to pay salaries 3, 4 and 5+ times what they make to people that will be retired by the age of 55 while they are looking at possibly having to work well into their 70s. If you can't understand the problem you are obviously part of the problem.

 

Teachers don't make that much and can't retire at 55. I've been teaching 10 years and make less than almost all of my friends who are in the private sector...substantially less I should add. Most teachers don't make a lot of money until they have 20 years in the job and honestly they deserve it.

 

Here we go with another us vs them thread. Ridiculous.

This BS never seems to stop!

 

I wish everyone would grow-up already! With all the Sh!t that's about to hit the fan, we need to stay focused on REAL issues, not this US vs. THEM crap!

Perhaps a forum should be created that focuses on those that like to debate? We all can be dicks at times when passions boil so why not give it a place to happen? No hold barred, full blown debate!

Teachers don't make that much and can't retire at 55. I've been teaching 10 years and make less than almost all of my friends who are in the private sector...substantially less I should add. Most teachers don't make a lot of money until they have 20 years in the job and honestly they deserve it.

 

Here we go with another us vs them thread. Ridiculous.

 

Much like the average patrol man the people at the bottom towing the line are never the problem. My brother-in-law has 8 kids and makes about $40k a year as a teacher in Bergen county which is a sin. The problem with the bloated school budgets is not the teachers, it is all the fat at the top that goes to the political hacks and their crony friends but everyone points to the poor under-paid teachers and says they and their students are the ones that will bear the brunt of any budget cuts because no-one will even contemplate cutting the actual fat.

All this bs is put out there to divide us and keep our attention off the man behind the curtain.

Behind the curtain or on the back of a dinosaur?

I work in jersey city. When epps was superintendent he was making over 250k a year and had 7 associate superintendents all making 6 figure salaries. Each has a secretary. But people complain about the classroom teachers. There's an easy way to cut money but doing it at the classroom level is ridiculous.

No bone, the political parties keep us fighting over small shit while they take turns screwing us.

No bone, the political parties keep us fighting over small shit while they take turns screwing us.

 

Exactly. Keep the population at war with each other while they screw us left and right.

No bone, the political parties keep us fighting over small shit while they take turns screwing us.

Exactly. Keep the population at war with each other while they screw us left and right.

 

That is the problem but will enough people ever realize it to correct it? Been banging my head against the wall for years trying to point this out.

Behind the curtain or on the back of a dinosaur?

Lolz

If you have guns in your house you better be VERY nice to everyone else in your house, because you never know, and the minute you convince yourself it could never happen to you, quess what? If your job involves being the one who is always right and doesnt need to listen to anyone else, can you turn that switch off when you walk through your front door? For instance we see how people lose it over something as stupid as opinions on this site, if that raises your blood pressure how do you know your going to maintain composure at home? Whats if youve both had a bad day? Bottom line, be very nice to everyone at home, and a good place to start practicing nice may be on this silly place called the internet.

The Anti Union /Cop / Wealthy whatever has to stop , this is a GUN FORUM NOT A WHAT YOU DO FOR A LIVING THREAD ..

 

These forums have always focused on politics. Probably 40-50% of the biggest threads are political. So, it's not really a gun forum entirely.

If you have guns in your house you better be VERY nice to everyone else in your house, because you never know, and the minute you convince yourself it could never happen to you, quess what? If your job involves being the one who is always right and doesnt need to listen to anyone else, can you turn that switch off when you walk through your front door? For instance we see how people lose it over something as stupid as opinions on this site, if that raises your blood pressure how do you know your going to maintain composure at home? Whats if youve both had a bad day? Bottom line, be very nice to everyone at home, and a good place to start practicing nice may be on this silly place called the internet.

I'm always nice and forgiving at home.....My wife knows where all the guns are and I taught her to shoot.

I work in jersey city. When epps was superintendent he was making over 250k a year and had 7 associate superintendents all making 6 figure salaries. Each has a secretary. But people complain about the classroom teachers. There's an easy way to cut money but doing it at the classroom level is ridiculous.

I met him at one of my favorite itlaian restaurants! He had a brand new Mercedes S55 about 150k!! I asked the valets who he was and they told me and they also mentioned he ate there every day! Some racket!

I'm always nice and forgiving at home.....My wife knows where all the guns are and I taught her to shoot.

 

I'm more afraid of my wife than the guns. She's a good shot, but I imagine her "missing" on purpose just to torture me.

I work in jersey city. When epps was superintendent he was making over 250k a year and had 7 associate superintendents all making 6 figure salaries. Each has a secretary. But people complain about the classroom teachers. There's an easy way to cut money but doing it at the classroom level is ridiculous.

 

When I worked as an intern over the summer, one thing I did was analyze the JC school board budget. What a monstrosity that thing is. Literally hundreds of millions of dollars in wasted and unnecessary spending. The whole thing made my blood boil. Meanwhile, it's teachers and students that are hung out to dry in the process.

I met him at one of my favorite itlaian restaurants! He had a brand new Mercedes S55 about 150k!! I asked the valets who he was and they told me and they also mentioned he ate there every day! Some racket!

Laico's on Terhune?

 

Laico's on Terhune?

 

Might have been Casa Dante in Newark haha. Laico's is some pretty damn good food though.

 

 

When I worked as an intern over the summer, one thing I did was analyze the JC school board budget. What a monstrosity that thing is. Literally hundreds of millions of dollars in wasted and unnecessary spending. The whole thing made my blood boil. Meanwhile, it's teachers and students that are hung out to dry in the process.

 

Tell me about it. I can't even get math materials. That's the problem though when there are cuts, they cut at the bottom not at the top where they should.

In my Town they put a cap on superintendent pay, so some people do see the problem...Although, most people think Christie is doing such a great job with his 2% cap, when the reality is... they cut from the bottom... and it doesn't address ANYTHING that has to do with the real problem. If people bothered to read the minutes of a board meeting on their budget, they would get the picture very quickly.... they can blame themselves when education takes a dive off the deep end..

Teacher's need to be paid well... but the POS NJEA needs to go and a merit system needs to be put in place. Keep good teachers in the system, and pay them well, and get rid of the dead weight. I'm not a teacher, but I know a few... Some of them are very good and some probably shouldn't be teachers at all... all they do is **** and complain about the students and the school system and how they constantly get the union involved to cover their useless asses. GOOD teachers should be paid well, and even given good bonuses as a reward for their good work. This would also motivate more good quality people to join the ranks and become teachers. It's a travesty when bad teachers get paid the same as excellent teachers and are also protected by some a-hole union.

Yep, Laico's

Fart ninjas are silent and deadly! They never apologize. They are in every public place waiting to strike!

Hope this helps!

Happy new yr !

 

Teacher's need to be paid well... but the POS NJEA needs to go and a merit system needs to be put in place. Keep good teachers in the system, and pay them well, and get rid of the dead weight. I'm not a teacher, but I know a few... Some of them are very good and some probably shouldn't be teachers at all... all they do is **** and complain about the students and the school system and how they constantly get the union involved to cover their useless asses. GOOD teachers should be paid well, and even given good bonuses as a reward for their good work. This would also motivate more good quality people to join the ranks and become teachers. It's a travesty when bad teachers get paid the same as excellent teachers and are also protected by some a-hole union.

 

Great minds think alike! I have several friends who are GOOD Teachers who quietly complain to me and family members about the do-nothings and get-over Artists among their ranks getting the same pay for piss poor teaching. What everyone has to remember is that Unions WERE important way-back-when. Now they seem to have chosen to defend mediocrity, and let's face it---the Unions have become a Big Business themselves and often urge their members to vote against the 2A using dues dollars paid by members who wish it would stop.......

 

Remember that you'll find examples of the above in all professions where "organized and maintained mediocrity" is the order of the day. Not just Teaching!

I work in jersey city. When epps was superintendent he was making over 250k a year and had 7 associate superintendents all making 6 figure salaries. Each has a secretary. But people complain about the classroom teachers. There's an easy way to cut money but doing it at the classroom level is ridiculous.

 

If you're good at what you do, and considering you have to work in Jersey Shitty, I'd say YOU deserve around 250k per year and not that insufferable hack Epps.