As said in other posts it is extremely important to join. This may be the biggest battle gun owners have ever seen.

 

 

 

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/08/16415808-nra-to-attend-white-house-meetings-on-guns?lite&ocid=msnhp&pos=5

I think that's good news. I think the our goverment realized that the 20 million emails, letters, and phone calls to oppose gun control on law abiding citizens is probably politically a good idea. That coupled with the fact the NRA had probably 500,000 new members sign up in the last 30days and the number of guns sold have gone through the roof sends a strong message. Maybe calling the NRA in would be a good idea.

Fingers crossed!!

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Rob

Nah. The White House is paying them lip-service to make it look like they examined all sides. The deck is already stacked - look at the members on the commission.

Nah. The White House is paying them lip-service to make it look like they examined all sides. The deck is already stacked - look at the members on the commission.

 

+1 I totally agree, Bob.

I think that's good news. I think the our goverment realized that the 20 million emails, letters, and phone calls to oppose gun control on law abiding citizens is probably politically a bad idea. That coupled with the fact the NRA had probably 500,000 new members sign up in the last 30days and the number of guns sold have gone through the roof sends a strong message. Maybe calling the NRA in would be a good idea.

 

I may be wrong but I'm inclined to agree with you. Maybe the gun grabbers have incited a much bigger fight than they had anticipated. Or I am just naive and trying to be positive

Noting will come if we were all negative and just gave up so keep on believing we will win in the end.

 

 

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I just have the notion that Biden is going to listen to the NRA the way he did with Paul Ryan. With smirks, laughs, and a whole bunch of "Malarkey."

Okay, someone please educate me.

 

What legal authority does BIden's clown show have? I'm thinking squat, goose egg, nil, zero.

 

Let him make his recommendations all he wants. What does it do?

 

If (and this is a big if) Boehner has any balls all he has to do is say "Thanks Joe, now go fugg yourself and stick your recommendations up your ass".

 

What does that leave? An EO by Bobo?

 

We'll see how well that works out.

Okay, someone please educate me.

 

What legal authority does BIden's clown show have? I'm thinking squat, goose egg, nil, zero.

 

Let him make his recommendations all he wants. What does it do?

 

If (and this is a big if) Boehner has any balls all he has to do is say "Thanks Joe, now go fugg yourself and stick your recommendations up your ass".

 

What does that leave? An EO by Bobo?

 

We'll say how well that works out.

 

The "Biden Task Force" can make recommendations. It still has to be passed into law by congress. This is too big of an issue for EO's.

I do think they will try an eo

I do think they will try an eo

 

I might be wrong, but I don't think EO's can be used to pass federal laws. Why would we need a house and congress then?

They will try to get some sound bytes from the NRA to use against them / us is the ONLY reason for this meeting. I think the NRA should respect the request, show up, lawyer up and then,....whip out their cods and tell Biden to suck it and walk out.

 

 

There I go again, showing my Belleville roots.

Lmao....

 

They will try to get some sound bytes from the NRA to use against them / us is the ONLY reason for this meeting. I think the NRA should respect the request, show up, lawyer up and then,....whip out their cods and tell Biden to suck it and walk out.

 

 

There I go again, showing my Belleville roots.

 

 

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Nah. The White House is paying them lip-service to make it look like they examined all sides. The deck is already stacked - look at the members on the commission.

 

I know the VP is on it, who else?

 

 

I know the VP is on it, who else?

 

Holder. Need I say more?

As I figured...nothing was done. Both sides had their agendas and the WH certainly didn't want to have a discussion based on facts.

 

So back to my original suggestion, unzip the cod and tell them to suck it...beyotchs.

 

Statement From the NRA Regarding Today's

White House Task Force Meeting

 

Fairfax, Va. – The National Rifle Association of America is made up of over 4 million moms and dads, daughters and sons, who are involved in the national conversation about how to prevent a tragedy like Newtown from ever happening again. We attended today's White House meeting to discuss how to keep our children safe and were prepared to have a meaningful conversation about school safety, mental health issues, the marketing of violence to our kids and the collapse of federal prosecutions of violent criminals.

 

We were disappointed with how little this meeting had to do with keeping our children safe and how much it had to do with an agenda to attack the Second Amendment. While claiming that no policy proposals would be “prejudged,” this Task Force spent most of its time on proposed restrictions on lawful firearms owners - honest, taxpaying, hardworking Americans. It is unfortunate that this Administration continues to insist on pushing failed solutions to our nation's most pressing problems. We will not allow law-abiding gun owners to be blamed for the acts of criminals and madmen. Instead, we will now take our commitment and meaningful contributions to members of congress of both parties who are interested in having an honest conversation about what works - and what does not.

Okay, someone please educate me.

 

What legal authority does BIden's clown show have? I'm thinking squat, goose egg, nil, zero.

 

Let him make his recommendations all he wants. What does it do?

 

If (and this is a big if) Boehner has any balls all he has to do is say "Thanks Joe, now go fugg yourself and stick your recommendations up your ass".

 

What does that leave? An EO by Bobo?

 

We'll see how well that works out.

That’s the kind of talk I like to hear. Unfortunately we in NJ and other Nanny states that have been burned know all too well anything could happen. if they get a big enough push back maybe it will knock them back on their heels just as we are currently playing defense now. I’m hopeful other state reps from other "Free states" like Texas, PA, and the Southern states will just stymie any and all legislation. And just maybe there are still a few legislators with a set of balls to shoot down any of the proposed sh*t down

I do think they will try an eo

I don’t know either but you could bet both sides are lawyering up. We have to remember this going to be Chicago-style politics from now to the end of his term and he could do a lot of damage between now and then not only to 2A rights but across the board. Maybe Texas will succeed from the union and we could all move there

That’s the kind of talk I like to hear. Unfortunately we in NJ and other Nanny states that have been burned know all too well anything could happen. if they get a big enough push back maybe it will knock them back on their heels just as we are currently playing defense now. I’m hopeful other state reps from other "Free states" like Texas, PA, and the Southern states will just stymie any and all legislation. And just maybe there are still a few legislators with a set of balls to shoot down any of the proposed sh*t down

 

I don’t know either but you could bet both sides are lawyering up. We have to remember this going to be Chicago-style politics from now to the end of his term and he could do a lot of damage between now and then not only to 2A rights but across the board. Maybe Texas will succeed from the union and we could all move there

 

try wyoming

 

http://legisweb.state.wy.us/2013/Introduced/HB0104.pdf

Wyoming is nice but Vermont is more practical for us rooted on the east coast.

try wyoming

 

http://legisweb.stat...uced/HB0104.pdf

I like that, or closer to home the CONSTITUTION OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA Section 21

There have been several news reports about the discussions today.. and from what i have read the tone of the talks was about private sale loopholes (i.e. national background checks for all weapons) and magazine limits.

 

i didnt read a single thing about any sort of all-out AWB from Biden discussions today. he stated "there has to be a middle ground.."

 

I know i'm going to get flamed for this.. but i think the above is a win. (yes, i know i know.. "give them an inch".. etc.. ) but i'd rather hear the talk about no private sales instead of talk about "no semi-automatics allowed at all".

 

i'm just passing on the info..

I like that, or closer to home the CONSTITUTION OF THE COMMONWEALTH OF PENNSYLVANIA Section 21

 

It's funny just how different things are a few miles west of here.

There have been several news reports about the discussions today.. and from what i have read the tone of the talks was about private sale loopholes (i.e. national background checks for all weapons) and magazine limits.

 

i didnt read a single thing about any sort of all-out AWB from Biden discussions today. he stated "there has to be a middle ground.."

 

I know i'm going to get flamed for this.. but i think the above is a win. (yes, i know i know.. "give them an inch".. etc.. ) but i'd rather hear the talk about no private sales instead of talk about "no semi-automatics allowed at all".

 

i'm just passing on the info..

This is NOT a flame against you; we are all on the same team. Here is my take, I watched Hannity tonight and both his guest who attended the meeting were very much in agreement that there was no conversation on how to make schools safer. Biden’s only proposed more restrictions on legal firearms owners and he actually said other Pro Gun groups said they were onboard with further restrictions, really? Once we heard them coin the phrase “common sense gun laws” we pretty much knew where this was headed. Here’s a piece on if an EO will be tried

http://video.foxnews...ntcmp=obnetwork

I know i'm going to get flamed for this..... but i'd rather hear the talk about no private sales instead of talk about "no semi-automatics allowed at all".

 

I'll come right out onto that limb with ya. That limb may snap under both our weight.

try wyoming http://legisweb.state.wy.us/2013/Introduced/HB0104.pdf

 

Since my parents moved us out here from Wyoming, i've always wanted to make it back there.

There have been several news reports about the discussions today.. and from what i have read the tone of the talks was about private sale loopholes (i.e. national background checks for all weapons) and magazine limits.

 

i didnt read a single thing about any sort of all-out AWB from Biden discussions today. he stated "there has to be a middle ground.."

 

I know i'm going to get flamed for this.. but i think the above is a win. (yes, i know i know.. "give them an inch".. etc.. ) but i'd rather hear the talk about no private sales instead of talk about "no semi-automatics allowed at all".

 

i'm just passing on the info..

 

Im not OK with magazine limits. Im already restricted to 15rds and that's bad enough. And they are talking about magazine limits to apply to everything, not just rifles.

I may be wrong but I'm inclined to agree with you. Maybe the gun grabbers have incited a much bigger fight than they had anticipated. Or I am just naive and trying to be positive

 

By definition they have picked a much bigger fight than they have anticipated. They really did think they had a bigger ground swell of support than in 93. The reality is in 93 they had 70%+ polling for more gun control. While Sandy Hook was still basically the entirety of the 24-7 news cycle, they got between 53-54% polling for more gun control. They believed the MAIG numbers that 74% of NRA members want lots more gun control, and expected the NRA to be spending it's time with internal squabbles like they did in 93, but to a greater extent. They expected pro RKBA politicians in congress to have to amke a call on pissing off their base or voting pro 2nd. They also expected the antis to actually show up and donate money and vote and protest. I've seen all of two protests, the one outside the NRA press conference, and the one in NYC on the bridge. Both looked like they attracted about 30-50 people. So far I have seen on pro-rkba protest, and it attracted over 100.

 

The reality is that the average anti's position is that SOMEONE ELSE should be making this problem go away so they don't have to think about it. They are mentally primed to delegate basic survival to someone else, why would they be that keen on putting in effort towards something that doesn't affect themselves or the people they know? And that's the reality of the lie about "gun violence", it's not that common. Heck, look how little you can get people worked up about HIV/AIDS these days, and NOBODY comes out defending a retrovirus, and nobody's life is improved by a disease, and you have 58,000 or so new cases a year and an existing infected population of over one million.