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NJ task force on violence public hearings

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Unit t-shirt is just fine. But you better be wearing your eyepro and PT belt.

 

 

I'd have to take it off my car...

 

 

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

February 4, 2013

 

 

Dear Friend:

 

Thank you for writing to express your opposition to new laws regarding gun control.

I appreciate hearing from you on this important issue.

 

Acting on my commitment to take a full and comprehensive look at the intersection of gun control, addiction, mental health and school safety in New Jersey, I have created the NJ SAFE Task Force. The Task Force will be chaired by two former attorneys general of New Jersey and members who have expertise in the fields of mental health diagnosis and treatment, addiction services and treatment, law enforcement and school safety.

 

Violence in our society has never been solely about firearms, and we would miss an opportunity to better prevent the roots of violence if we didn't look at the complete picture. If we are truly going to take an honest and candid assessment of violence and public safety, we have to look more deeply at the underlying causes of many acts of violence. That means removing the stigma and evaluating issues of mental health, addiction, prevention and treatment services alongside the effectiveness of our firearms laws, enforcement mechanisms and our school safety measures. This task force will convene immediately and report back with its findings.

 

My commitment has always been to evaluate public safety, criminal policy and behavioral science with an approach that recognizes that these issues cannot be separated from one another. The SAFE Task Force will further my commitment in that regard as we look at how we can better guarantee violence control.

 

I hope you find this information helpful. Thank you again for writing.

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Chris Christie

Governor

Ok, my speech, if allowed to speak. Note that my goal was to target one big, specific problem that we have right now, not babble on about gun rights in general.

 

If you want to meet up and say hello, I'll be the incredibly handsome man in the fantastic suit with two beautiful woman hanging off my arms. But there may be a few other Beretta owners there as well, so just look for the bald guy with glasses.

 

Thank you for letting me speak on this matter.

I'm a New Jersey gun owner and I follow the law. I was horrified after the shooting at Sandy Hook and I am here to tell you today that more laws are not the answer. I will not be scapegoated for something that a mentally ill man did hundreds of miles from me. But I do have an idea that we can do at least one thing tomorrow that I guarantee you will save lives and it won't cost us a dime.

We need to change our laws to allow temporary gun transfers and revamp our transportation laws.

Let's say you had a son you thought was mentally unstable and could hurt himself or others. If you owned a gun, you would want to remove that gun from the house, right? Maybe you would take it to a storage unit and keep it there? Maybe you would give the gun to a fellow gun-owner to keep in his safe for a few weeks, right?

Sounds like a reasonable idea, right?

Well, it's illegal. It's illegal for me to transport a gun anywhere but between two pieces of properties I own, gun range or a hunting ground. Do you have any idea how many guns were looted after Hurricane Sandy because law-abiding gun owners didn't want to risk seven years in state prison by taking their guns out of the path of the hurricane? Do you realize that hurricane or not, it's illegal to bring your guns to your brother-in-laws house, or to a hotel room. New Jersey's laws actually made New Jersey residents less safe after Hurricane Sandy because residents had to flee and leave their guns behind in unoccupied homes and businesses.

We need to allow people to temporally store their guns with other FID card holders and change our transportation laws to allow gun owners to temporally transport them to the houses of relatives, friends, hotels and storage units.

Just this one tweak to the transfer and transportation law would make us safer tomorrow and it won't cost us a dime. This coming summer, all of the guns that were stolen from wrecked houses during Hurricane Sandy are going to to be out on the streets and it didn't have to happen.

There is no reason for any gun owner to have to break the law in order to do the right thing for the community.

This is a genuine common sense solution that will start saving lives as soon as it is implemented.

Here is my speech.. hopefully i will get my 3 minutes.

 

Dear Esteemed legislators, we have gathered here to debate proposed additional firearms laws and restrictions.

Now, let me go on record here and state I am most definely for a meaningfull gun control. I am very much against weapons of any kind falling in to hands of criminals and people with mental health issues that are deemed to be a danger for the public. I am very much for mandatory and very harsh jail sentences for people who commit crimes with guns. But I think that it’s very reasonable to accept that we unfortunately do not live in the perfect world and that there will always be people who are willing to do us harm and take what’s rightfully ours. I was mugged at gun point twice. I refuse to be a victim ever again.

However, reading proposed legislature simply makes me laugh and question if we should not instead work on legislature that mandates mental health evaluation for people who belive that proposed laws will have any affect on the problem that we are trying to solve in the first place. I am convinced that the only thing proposed legislature will accomlish is to further anger and infringe on rights of law abiding and make NJ an impossible state to live in for people who value and respect personal choice and freedom and people who are willing to stand up and defend themselves, their loved ones and their property against criminals who are the only people that will be empowered by the proposed legislature.

I hearby propose, mental health screening for

People who belive criminals will abide by 10 or 7 or 5 rounds in magazine rule

People who belive that proposed laws will stop flow of illegal guns to NJ

People that belive that we will get rid of evil in our society by infringing on law abiding citizens’ right to self defence

People that believe that criminal should be better armed than law abiding citizen and police

People that are convinced that having adjustable stock on my rifle that enables said rifle to fit both my wife and I, somehow makes me criminal for owning an assault weapon !

People that think wasting taxpayers money on prosecuting visitors from other states that have bayonet lug on their rifles is more important that using those funds to put another cop on the street need to see a doctor!

People that watch too many holywood movies and belive that an attacker can be stopped with single pistol bullet need to check their facts

People who belive that if Department of HomeLand security chose AR-15 as personal Defence weapons but think that regular citizen would do just fine with out it need to learn how to stop being hyppocrite.

People who belive that NJ residents are so different from the rest of the country that NJ is the last state in Union that makes it impossible to trained, law abiding citizens to carry firearms for protection, but who enjoy armed security themselves.

 

And finally, I propose that if you are really really want to do something that makes sense, you first closely re examine firearm laws that are on the books already. Toss them all out completely and write something meaningfull from the scratch that trully makes sense, that deters criminal activity and positions NJ residents inline with the rest of the country.

Otherwise, please seek help from mental health proffecional if you for a second belive that citizens of NJ will accept and abide by this rediculous peice of legilsature.

Here is my speech.. hopefully i will get my 3 minutes.

 

Dear Esteemed legislators, we have gathered here to debate proposed additional firearms laws and restrictions.

Now, let me go on record here and state I am most definely for a meaningfull gun control. I am very much against weapons of any kind falling in to hands of criminals and people with mental health issues that are deemed to be a danger for the public. I am very much for mandatory and very harsh jail sentences for people who commit crimes with guns. But I think that it’s very reasonable to accept that we unfortunately do not live in the perfect world and that there will always be people who are willing to do us harm and take what’s rightfully ours. I was mugged at gun point twice. I refuse to be a victim ever again.

However, reading proposed legislature simply makes me laugh and question if we should not instead work on legislature that mandates mental health evaluation for people who belive that proposed laws will have any affect on the problem that we are trying to solve in the first place. I am convinced that the only thing proposed legislature will accomlish is to further anger and infringe on rights of law abiding and make NJ an impossible state to live in for people who value and respect personal choice and freedom and people who are willing to stand up and defend themselves, their loved ones and their property against criminals who are the only people that will be empowered by the proposed legislature.

I hearby propose, mental health screening for

People who belive criminals will abide by 10 or 7 or 5 rounds in magazine rule

People who belive that proposed laws will stop flow of illegal guns to NJ

People that belive that we will get rid of evil in our society by infringing on law abiding citizens’ right to self defence

People that believe that criminal should be better armed than law abiding citizen and police

People that are convinced that having adjustable stock on my rifle that enables said rifle to fit both my wife and I, somehow makes me criminal for owning an assault weapon !

People that think wasting taxpayers money on prosecuting visitors from other states that have bayonet lug on their rifles is more important that using those funds to put another cop on the street need to see a doctor!

People that watch too many holywood movies and belive that an attacker can be stopped with single pistol bullet need to check their facts

People who belive that if Department of HomeLand security chose AR-15 as personal Defence weapons but think that regular citizen would do just fine with out it need to learn how to stop being hyppocrite.

People who belive that NJ residents are so different from the rest of the country that NJ is the last state in Union that makes it impossible to trained, law abiding citizens to carry firearms for protection, but who enjoy armed security themselves.

 

And finally, I propose that if you are really really want to do something that makes sense, you first closely re examine firearm laws that are on the books already. Toss them all out completely and write something meaningfull from the scratch that trully makes sense, that deters criminal activity and positions NJ residents inline with the rest of the country.

Otherwise, please seek help from mental health proffecional if you for a second belive that citizens of NJ will accept and abide by this rediculous peice of legilsature.

Please...Please tell me your joking. Please.

nope. dead serious. I want mental friggin check for people who think any of the prosed laws make sense.. fed up with this trenton BS.

Oy. Kotkot -- first of all, the members of the task force aren't legislators. They are people appointed by the Governor to make recommendations. Second, this is serious business. I don't think flippant remarks or telling members of the task force -- including two former state atorrneys general -- that they should seek help from mental health "proffecionals" (or did you mean "professionals"?) will help our cause.

nope. dead serious. I want mental friggin check for people who think any of the prosed laws make sense.. fed up with this trenton BS.

Don't misunderstand. I have no issue with the salient points of your "speech" but I fear that if you were to get 3 minutes at the podium that you may dilute the credibility and good will accrued by any pro gun speaker before you and definitely speaking after you.The whole idea is to convince and cajole, not insult and anger or worse yet get dismissed as another gun kook foaming at the mouth.

I love it! Just change one thing where you mention assault weapon. Rephrase it to say, "alleged assault weapon" as we have none.

:)

 

 

Sent from John's iPad 2 via Tapatalk HD

Typos courtesy Apple...

PDM and Duppie,

 

I fully understand how serious (and rediculous at the same time) this is. One reason that I worked on the speech and posted it here is to gather feedback. I am not offended by any positive or negative comments you may have. Keep them coming.

 

 

small Part of my job is to present...technical material.. but present never the less.. to executives as well. at least in my experience..boring, fact based speaches do not stick in memory.

 

 

Ok, I will re run spell check..I guess i can remove the last line if it sounds too offensive..and modify first one to read:

 

Dear members of the commission

 

 

P.S.

I do have relatively strong foreign accent, (it does not makes me any less concerned, perhaps even more, because I know where this road leads) but if someone else wants to deliver this.. fine with me.

This may be a better way of putting it:

 

Dear esteemed committee members ,

 

I am certainly for gun control. I was mugged at gun point twice. I refuse to be a victim ever again.

 

I don't want guns in the hands of criminals, the mentally ill, and those who are a danger to the public.

 

I am for mandatory and very harsh jail sentences for people who commit crimes with guns.

 

However, in the says since that tragic day at Sandy hook, New Jersey gun owners have been demonized as the problem by the legislature of New Jersey. Almost four dozen new gun control laws have been introduced in the state legislature.

 

One of those laws is the most onerous piece of legislation I've ever seen, a law that requires in home inspection and a mental health exam before a person can purchase a firearm.

 

This made me thing that maybe mental health screening should be required.

 

Mental health screening should be required for people who believe that criminals will only use restricted capacity magazines.

 

Mental health screening should be required for people who think that we can legislate away the evil in our society.

 

Mental health screening should be required for people who think that the people should be less well armed than criminals.

 

Mental health screening should be required for people who think that a stock which adjusts so that my wife can safely fire the gun is a weapon of war.

 

Mental health screening should be required for people who think that bad guys can be stopped with a single bullet.

 

Mental health screening should be required for people who think that the other 42 states who allow their citizens to carry a small concealed handgun are somehow wrong and New Jersey must keep their citizens disarmed because we are special.

 

And finally if you feel that our gun laws make any sense, you seek psychiatric help immediately, because not even some police officers understand the law. New Jersey 2C code has grown so convoluted that it needs to be thrown out entirely. Only in New Jersey can you get 7 years in prison for going to the bathroom on your way to the gun range, but only serve 5 years for murder.

 

Thank you for your time.

Dear Mr. D,

 

Thank you for your recent email regarding gun rights. I understand your concerns.

 

A comprehensive look is needed at our society to see why such tragic incidents like the Newtown shooting occur. That includes a look at mental health and violent video games and movies. I agree we can also improve the quality of background checks.

 

Governor Christie just announced the creation of the NJ SAFE Task Force. The panel is made up of a cross section of the community, including James Romer from Monmouth Medical Center. He has 30 years experience in the mental health field. The Task Force will hold a public hearing in Monmouth County on February 6, from 3 p.m. - 5 p.m., at Brookdale Community College in Lincroft. Perhaps you would like to attend if your schedule permits.

 

The Task Force has 60 days to report back to the Governor and I anxiously await its findings. Once again, thank you for reaching out to me with your concerns.

 

 

Very Truly Yours,

Assemblywoman Caroline Casagrande

11th Legislative District

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