February 22, 201313 yr We need a sticky thread for all the assembly members that voted in support of all these 22 BS gun control bills. We should use all our resources to vote them out of office. I don't really care if the the person running againts them is just as anti 2a or not. We just need to send a clear message that you work for us, we are not going to deal with your arrogance and corrupt NJ politics anymore. There are over 1 million gun owners in NJ, more than enough votes to remove these slimey politicians.
February 22, 201313 yr whats to know? basically as far as gun laws go look for the letter next to their name- D= bad, R= good
February 22, 201313 yr There are rural Dems who vote pro-gun. There are country club Repubs that vote anti-gun (like Amy Handlin in District 13).
February 22, 201313 yr Author whats to know? basically as far as gun laws go look for the letter next to their name- D= bad, R= good We need to make sure nobody forgets.
February 22, 201313 yr well if more people knew Joe Cryan, and the fact that he supported the IRA and even helped get one of their leasders out of jail...we could easily paint him as supporting terrorists... just putting that out there
February 22, 201313 yr There are rural Dems who vote pro-gun. There are country club Repubs that vote anti-gun (like Amy Handlin in District 13). true, nothing is absolute but basically, you get yesterdays results.
February 22, 201313 yr Don't get distracted by one letter. We need to dig up their dirt to see what these people actually believe, they think we are nuts but who is to say it isn't the other way around? Coincedentally most of the names I can think of have a D next to their names.
February 23, 201313 yr Anyone have any experience in launching grassroots recall efforts? It's time to get the word out.
February 23, 201313 yr Anthony M Bucco is a Republican in my district 25 and he voted for the new bill. I am not sure if a sticky is needed as I am sure this will all surface again a month or two before re-elections.
February 23, 201313 yr Just looked at Parsippany, these Rhinos either vote yes or abstain on these bill. An abstention is just trying to be politically correct and is as bad as a yes vote to me.
February 23, 201313 yr There was a group of 44 assemblycritters who voted for EVERY ONE of the 22 gun-related bills yesterday. It's those 44 who should be marked for unemployment this November, if not sooner. ETA: Looking at the list of bills passed in the Assembly yesterday, then looking at Asm Albano's voting record on these bills, it raises the question: WHERE THE HELL WAS NELSON ALBANO YESTERDAY??????
February 23, 201313 yr My first three picks are: Cryan, Cryan, and Cryan. I think we should focus our efforts on targeting a couple of people. In my mind, Cryan is the best target, because, 1) The dirt we know on him is probably the tip of the iceberg. Before this event, I'm not sure how much scrutiny he received, 2) He had some credible challengers in last election's primary 3) The demographics of his district have changed. Irish machine voters have become middle class and moved to the suburbs. His district is now 33% Hispanic. 4) His challengers were Hispanic. I think a targeted Spanish language campaign has the possibility of taking him down.
February 23, 201313 yr There was a group of 44 assemblycritters who voted for EVERY ONE of the 22 gun-related bills yesterday. It's those 44 who should be marked for unemployment this November, if not sooner. ETA: Looking at the list of bills passed in the Assembly yesterday, then looking at Asm Albano's voting record on these bills, it raises the question: WHERE THE HELL WAS NELSON ALBANO YESTERDAY?????? Where indeed. Given his sponsorship of a "shall issue" bill, I think he's an ally. That is good, because when it comes to a veto override, with enough pressure, he may add one to the numbers we saw yesterday and push several bills over the 27 mark. Christie's advisors are smart enough to notice this.
February 23, 201313 yr whats to know? basically as far as gun laws go look for the letter next to their name- D= bad, R= good Don't believe this. Find out the facts. Not all "Ds" voted for this trash and not all "Rs" voted against. Learn the facts and make a decision. Or else you are as bad as the "You have yo pass it to know whats in it crowd"
February 23, 201313 yr Author There was a group of 44 assemblycritters who voted for EVERY ONE of the 22 gun-related bills yesterday. It's those 44 who should be marked for unemployment this November, if not sooner. ETA: Looking at the list of bills passed in the Assembly yesterday, then looking at Asm Albano's voting record on these bills, it raises the question: WHERE THE HELL WAS NELSON ALBANO YESTERDAY?????? That's the list we need to put together and save.
February 23, 201313 yr One of my Reps is Assemblywoman Holly Schepisi ( R ) I see no vote after all the gun bills. What does that mean ? I understand yes ,no and abstain what does no vote mean? I think it means she took the day off. Correct.
February 23, 201313 yr One of my Reps is Assemblywoman Holly Schepisi ( R ) I see no vote after all the gun bills. What does that mean ? I understand yes ,no and abstain what does no vote mean? I think it means she took the day off. Correct. More potential good news. If she's pro, then her absence leads to an underestimate of our support. I think we can "encourage" her to show up for any veto override bill.
February 23, 201313 yr It's all well and good to make a list, but I really think we need to focus our investment efforts on one or two targets. We can choose them based on how badly they hurt us this cycle and vulnerability. Then we need real strategies on how to unseat them in the primaries. I don't think it's realistic to hit them in the general election, given the gerrymandering of the districts. I'm hoping these discussions are taking place behind the scenes.
February 23, 201313 yr It's all well and good to make a list, but I really think we need to focus our investment efforts on one or two targets. We can choose them based on how badly they hurt us this cycle and vulnerability. Then we need real strategies on how to unseat them in the primaries. I don't think it's realistic to hit them in the general election, given the gerrymandering of the districts. I'm hoping these discussions are taking place behind the scenes. Primaries are the only way to get them out. Most people just vote by the letter after the name. So pick the candidates who are weak in there own parties and go after them.
February 23, 201313 yr Send an email today and recieved a reply in about an hour. Not bad for a saturday. here is the email. I will absolutely back any veto by the Governor on these bills.(from Rep) Sent from my iPhone (From Me) On Feb 23, 2013, at 10:23 AM, > I was reviewing the votes on the many gun control bills before you last week. I see that you were a "no vote" on them. > Although I am thankful you did not support any of the bills > a "no vote" does not cut it. I'm assuming this means you did not vote or missed it. > We the people need legislators who will vote no matter what the odds stacked against them are .I need to know I'm rep'd by a person of conviction. Again I am thankful you did not vote for them however if they come back for a veto override vote I would hope you will step up and vote against them. > Best wishes
February 23, 201313 yr Wooley Here is how it works is Cryans district. Lesniak is the shot caller. Cryan does his bidding. Cryan has relatives and family all over the county. His brother i law is a judge. He has been ties to others dating back to his father in the county. In union township he has his pals on the town council. There is a rotating mayor every yr. its one of 3 councilman. Mayor Peoples gets him the voters from Vauxhall (minority vote) Florio has been around so long people just vote for him still cause they dont know better and I forget the Portuguese councilman's name gets him the portuguese vote here since we have seen an influx in Union. Bollwage delivers Elizabethto him and Hillside and Roselle are too small to matter at that point.
February 23, 201313 yr Almost forgot, If you want to watch them squeal, Cory Booker cant win the Mummys seat. If we get a republican in over booker, I think things might change.
February 23, 201313 yr Don't believe this. Find out the facts. Not all "Ds" voted for this trash and not all "Rs" voted against. Learn the facts and make a decision. Or else you are as bad as the "You have yo pass it to know whats in it crowd" Fair enough. How's this fact: Of the 25 names that are the sponsers of these bills, 22 are democrats. The 3 Repubs sponsered two bills, neither attacking the 2A. One was the bill to not allow public access to firearms owners info, the other was some educational security force thing. I dont know the actuall breakdown of votes but I'll guess it'll trend like that.
February 23, 201313 yr Don't think we need a sticky. Just don't vote for Domocrats. It's very simple. Instead a lot of people just vote for whomever their union hall tells them too...
February 23, 201313 yr Bonnie Watson Coleman needs to go. Isn't she the one whose two sons committed an armed robbery at a Kids-R-Us store? Are they in jail? Where did they get their guns? Legally obtained? Stolen from her? Maybe she is trying to get our guns so that next time they don't get shot when they try again.
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