Last week a found a good deal (in these times) for 1,200 rounds of .45 cal with two free Ammo boxes from Cabela's. Today on their web site I saw the following note:

 

"Because of dramatic increase in demand of certain ammunition, Cabela's is limiting the number of boxes of ammunition that can be prucahsed. This limitation, which will be lifted once supply catches up with demand, this will provide the best chance for the greatest number of our customers to fulfill their needs. Please check product page for quantity limitations.

 

The limit appears to be five boxes.

They ve had this posted for a while. Never knew the limit was 5 boxes.

They have a 10 of each caliber limit in their stores for a while now.

 

I see it as a step to prevent hoarding and an opportunity to lower prices with their suppliers.

 

 

Holy shiznit! After reading I tested it... 5 box limit. WTF?? Damn... the drama never ends.

Good for them..time to calm the hoarders down

They ve had this posted for a while. Never knew the limit was 5 boxes.

They have a 10 of each caliber limit in their stores for a while now.

 

This.

I follow 9mm ammo on gunbot. I am seeing less reasonably priced products popping up and less often over just the past month. Whatever shows up disappears in minutes.

Suppliers are getting it in but it's gone within hours. So it's still showing up just people are buying fast. I'm gonna buy 1 more case and then wait it out a bit. In my opinion it's turning around

But don't expect stocked shelves for months

I ordered 6 boxes of various 7mm-08 ammo on January 4th from targetsportsusa...

 

They sent me a customer satisfaction survey if I was "satisfied with the products I ordered". I responded that I wouldn't know because I never received my order. They sent a note back that it would be another 2-6 weeks.

 

 

For flippin' 7mm-08 ammo!

Cabelas Just sent me an email that the stuff I ordered in Jan might be ready to ship at the end of May. They then asked if I wish to cancel. Nope I'll wait

Cabelas Just sent me an email that the stuff I ordered in Jan might be ready to ship at the end of May. They then asked if I wish to cancel. Nope I'll wait

 

Yeah just wait. They pulled that crap with me and canceled the order on me a month later, and this was a black friday order

Cabelas Just sent me an email that the stuff I ordered in Jan might be ready to ship at the end of May. They then asked if I wish to cancel. Nope I'll wait

 

Had the same thing happen. After 2 emails of a delay they asked if i wanted to cancel.

The 3rd email said that if i dont call them back on the phone the order will be cancelled.

I know the logistical difficulties of ramping up production have been discussed before, but given the fact that things have gotten worse rather than better 3 months into the crisis, I wonder if companies will consider doing something. Capital investments are probably still out of the question, but maybe train more workers to keep the assembly lines running longer. They can pretty much decide how much profit they want next quarter, divide that by the margin in ammo, and gear up to produce that much. Pretty enviable position for a company to be in.

 

Probably easier for .22, because don't need to rely on primer availability.

Imagine. One jerkoff goes nuts, shoots up a bunch of kids and the politicians and media are going crazy. New laws, gun shortages, ammo hoarding, price gouging, tempers flaring, people peed off at each other over ammo deals gone bad. One disgusting moment in time made all of this happen. It's almost beyond comprehension.

Good for them..time to calm the hoarders down

I agree. Not only hoarders, but opportunists as well. People buy it up at the lowest cost for the times, and re-sell it to make a little extra money. It's like, screw the next guy.

Keep in mind that it is not just people stocking up, every day there is an influx of new shooters joining the club because of what is going on in the country. I should know, I am one of them. But just look at this forum lately, there does not seem to be a day that goes by without several people introducing themselves as new shooters. So, we have existing people and the government stocking up plus demand from new customers adding to demand everyday. I am surprised that ammo companies have not added extra shifts to have the equipment running 24/7 churning more stuff out. Heck, they should easily be able to cover the overtime pay.

Good for them..time to calm the hoarders down

 

Another non-voter identified.

 

 

Another non-voter identified.

Care to explain?

Keep in mind that it is not just people stocking up, every day there is an influx of new shooters joining the club because of what is going on in the country. I should know, I am one of them. But just look at this forum lately, there does not seem to be a day that goes by without several people introducing themselves as new shooters. So, we have existing people and the government stocking up plus demand from new customers adding to demand everyday. I am surprised that ammo companies have not added extra shifts to have the equipment running 24/7 churning more stuff out. Heck, they should easily be able to cover the overtime pay.

I agree with this.. I'm one of those new shooters as well..

Suppliers are getting it in but it's gone within hours. So it's still showing up just people are buying fast. I'm gonna buy 1 more case and then wait it out a bit. In my opinion it's turning around

 

Gone within hours? I have not found that. One site I watch put 100 cases of 1,000 rounds of 9mm on line last week and it was all gone in 8 minutes!

I mean ammo suppliers. As in warehouses. Not retail

Had the same thing happen. After 2 emails of a delay they asked if i wanted to cancel.

The 3rd email said that if i dont call them back on the phone the order will be cancelled.

 

As a mil order business, they are required by law to do this with backorders that go unfulfilled for an extended period. I forget the time required, but you get to notices of delay with an option to cancel without charge, and then you get a cancellation notice with the option to just wait it out. Back before the internet became a place to shop, you'd get postcards in the mail with the reference to the chapter and verse they were being compliant with. IIRC it was 90 days to first notice, 30 more days to second, 30 more to third.

 

The reality is that manufacturing of ammo had been cranked down a LOT from the last peak. Accordingly, standing orders for raw materials, planchets, etc. were cut back as well. That's all ramping up again, but in the meantime there's a multi year backlog on orders which may change drastically based on the state of the industry. Nobody knows when they are getting anything, and how much it will be when it hits. Last serious shortage, it was metal prices plus wartime supply orders hitting along with a post 9-11 surge in gun ownership and prepping. You didn't know when you were getting or how much, but pretty rapidly it was understood that when production and components WERE allocated for civilian sales, you were at least getting a brief sip from a firehose. For the 2008 panic, they had upgraded the firehose and weren't facing as much military competition for capacity as well as much less awful metal prices. However, they were running the supply chain pretty lean due to the 2010 election and some very aggressive holiday buying. Right now, we have unprecedented demand from us, and a not quite as large, longer duration contract from DHS. Add to that pretty much everyone is asking jsut how much will the gun owning public actually spend before they cry uncle and retail order cancellations send shocks up the supply chain.

 

We are only just coming up on the 90 day mark. We really won't know how bad it is for at least 90 more days. We've hit supply chain scarcity way earlier than last big shortage. If you see supplies of foreign ammo completely dry up because they are getting premium prices for components from US manufacturers with less importation hassle, and all the places that jsut sell bulk jacketed bullets switch over to all 9mm 124 and barely have that in stock, then we are really pushing the capacity to manufacture.

Where the fck is all the 22lr.

But don't expect stocked shelves for months

 

Figure 6-9 months minimum for things to start getting back to normal supply-wise, expect pricing to be 15-20% higher than pre-panic

I think many are forgetting that not all shooters shoot over the winter. I know many people who have had their guns in the safe (and their heads up their asses, frankly) who are now looking for ammo, etc and can't believe how short supply is.

 

So basically, more people are coming on line to buy, and seeing the shortage, I am willing to bet are going to hoard, which will keep demand very high for quite some time.

 

Of course I could be wrong. But I doubt it.

Where the fck is all the 22lr.

 

I bought it all

Now I know why you need another safe.

Care to explain?

 

Certainly. There are two types of gun owners participating in ammo threads all over the Internet. There are people who saw this coming and stocked up. These individuals voted and voted based in 2A issues. When the election went south, they stocked up futher. These are the people now referred to as "hoarders" by the other group who didn't see this coming, didn't stock up and didn't vote, but now want to blame someone else for their lack of vision. I'll call these folks "whiners".

 

Bottom line. Your fellow gun owners aren't the cause of your problem finding ammo.

Certainly. There are two types of gun owners participating in ammo threads all over the Internet. There are people who saw this coming and stocked up. These individuals voted and voted based in 2A issues. When the election went south, they stocked up futher. These are the people now referred to as "hoarders" by the other group who didn't see this coming, didn't stock up and didn't vote, but now want to blame someone else for their lack of vision. I'll call these folks "whiners".

 

Bottom line. Your fellow gun owners aren't the cause of your problem finding ammo.

So let me see...those who didn't see it coming, or figured incorrectly it would be temporary, didn't vote based on 2A issues? And so anyone who considers hoarding a reason for ammo shortages is a whiner? I'm surprised you would say that. After 56 posts, I figured you weren't a troll.

 

 

Certainly. There are two types of gun owners participating in ammo threads all over the Internet. There are people who saw this coming and stocked up. These individuals voted and voted based in 2A issues. When the election went south, they stocked up futher. These are the people now referred to as "hoarders" by the other group who didn't see this coming, didn't stock up and didn't vote, but now want to blame someone else for their lack of vision. I'll call these folks "whiners".

 

Bottom line. Your fellow gun owners aren't the cause of your problem finding ammo.

Right.. Because you know my personal ammo stock situation.. And as a bonus you know how I voted.. Youre a bonafide Genius.. Congrats!