So let me see...those who didn't see it coming, or figured incorrectly it would be temporary, didn't vote based on 2A issues? And so anyone who considers hoarding a reason for ammo shortages is a whiner? I'm surprised you would say that. After 56 posts, I figured you weren't a troll.

 

I'm just sick of being called a hoarder for having the good sense to stock up in advance. I didn't think it took any great insight to see this coming. Meanwhile there were 68 million voters in the election and there are 100 million gun owners. Some idiot didn't vote, probably someone who didn't see what would be happening post election.

 

I'd rather be called a troll than continue to hear about how hoarders are somehow responsible for what's happening.

I dont see how it can possibly get better anytime soon, actually see it getting worse soon with all the record breaking sales nation wide and the weather getting better will bring out more shooters. And of course we here in NJ getting dbl whammied with the fear of on-line sales getting banned and the panic buys with that. I refuse to buy at panic prices and have only picked up a few boxes when I chanced on them at dicks at normal pricing. And the case of ADI 556 for .50 rd which I thought still reasonable : ).With my son getting out of the military soon gotta help feed his toys too in a few months. If the shit is still sticking 6 months from now so be it, thats life. SOOO glad I stocked up last yr.

I dont see how it can possibly get better anytime soon, actually see it getting worse soon with all the record breaking sales nation wide and the weather getting better will bring out more shooters. And of course we here in NJ getting dbl whammied with the fear of on-line sales getting banned and the panic buys with that. I refuse to buy at panic prices and have only picked up a few boxes when I chanced on them at dicks at normal pricing. And the case of ADI 556 for .50 rd which I thought still reasonable : ).With my son getting out of the military soon gotta help feed his toys too in a few months. If the shit is still sticking 6 months from now so be it, thats life. SOOO glad I stocked up last yr.

 

Sounds like you saw it coming and acted accordingly. That's cool. :-)

 

 

I'm just sick of being called a hoarder for having the good sense to stock up in advaance. I didn't think it took any great insight to see this coming. Meanwhile there were 68 million voters in the election and there are 100 million gun owners. Some idiot didn't vote, probably someone who didn't see what would be happening post election.

Hmmm If those 100 million gun owners had your good sense to stock up and buy bulk ammo before the craze... That wouldnt have caused any supply issues right? So now here we are with the NRA going gangbusters trying to get more people on board to strengthen the cause and we say to new shooters. Welcome.. Now go find ammo.. When you do .. It'll cost you a buck everytime you pull your trigger..because there are some that use the cases upon cases of ammo they've stocked as a couch and coffee table..

Hmmm If those 100 million gun owners had your good sense to stock up and buy bulk ammo before the craze... That wouldnt have caused any supply issues right? So now here we are with the NRA going gangbusters trying to get more people on board to strengthen the cause and we say to new shooters. Welcome.. Now go find ammo.. When you do .. It'll cost you a buck everytime you pull your trigger..because there are some that use the cases upon cases of ammo they've stocked as a couch and coffee table..

 

Many of us did stock up before the craze. If all of us had voted we wouldn't have anything to whine about today. If you want to blame a subset of gun owners, rather than accepting responsibility for your own situation, blame the gun owners who didn't vote.

 

I stocked up in advance. I voted. I dislike being called a hoarder and blamed for someone else's lack of ammo because they did neither.

Every one of us on this forum could have voted for the right candidate and Obama still would have won. Nj is a blue state.

i voted (i,e, NOT for Obama) before i was even a "new gun person". so its interesting that you assume people that dont have an arsenal or a small ammo-depot are closet dems or didnt vote at all.. strange theory

Many of us did stock up before the craze. If all of us had voted we wouldn't have anything to whine about today. If you want to blame a subset of gun owners, rather than accepting responsibility for your own situation, blame the gun owners who didn't vote.

 

I stocked up in advance. I voted. I dislike being called a hoarder and blamed for someone else's lack of ammo because they did neither.

HOARDER, HOARDER, HOARDER!!!!!!

I dont like people calling me bald.. But you know what.. I'm bald!

I'm just sick of being called a hoarder for having the good sense to stock up in advance. I didn't think it took any great insight to see this coming. Meanwhile there were 68 million voters in the election and there are 100 million gun owners. Some idiot didn't vote, probably someone who didn't see what would be happening post election.

 

I'd rather be called a troll than continue to hear about how hoarders are somehow responsible for what's happening.

While people acquiring large amounts of ammunition to protect themselves from a shortage (previously known as hoarders) are contributing to the issue, they didn't cause it. As soon as the people acquiring large amounts of ammunition to protect themselves from a shortage (again, previously known as hoarders) get to the point where they have enough, supply/demand will begin to stabilize, production will begin to meet demand, and the prices will begin to fall. The people acquiring large amounts of ammunition to protect themselves from a shortage that are using the large amounts of ammunition to sell at ridiculous prices, are the ones that pizz me off the most.

The one's that annoy me are the one's that didn't see the obvious (previously known a whiners) who want to blame someone else for the fact that they didn't see the obvious.

 

If you didn't buy ammo when you should have it's your own fault, no one else's. Time to take responsibility for yourself and quit blaming others.

I dont like people calling me bald.. But you know what.. I'm bald!

 

I know that feeling. :-)

i voted (i,e, NOT for Obama) before i was even a "new gun person". so its interesting that you assume people that dont have an arsenal or a small ammo-depot are closet dems or didnt vote at all.. strange theory

 

The folks that didn't see the panic coming did not see the obvious.

 

Nationwide there are 100 million gun owners and only 68 million people voted. That gives us at least 32 million gun owners who didn't show up. Since the vote was about 36 million to 32 million, if only a small portion of those no shows had shown up and voted based on the 2A, we would have a very different government today.

 

So the folks who are gun owners and didn't vote also are people who did not see the obvious. The correlation between these two groups may not be perfect, but I suspect it is pretty good.

 

To top it off, they think the fact that they didn't buy when they should have is someone else's fault!

This is going to sound dickish and get me flamed but so be it.

 

Today federal primers went on sale from a major online retailer. A bunch of the people who I shoot with started a group message and maxed out our orders as soon as it went up. I would be surprised if we did not buy the majority of what was available. Federal primers are a hugely hot commodity because it will run in just about any gun that has a trigger job unlike CCI's as well as WIN and REM. None of us plan to resell, just pad our own stock so we can still shoot at the same pace that we have been for the past 18 months. You can call us hoarders all you want, but its come to be as simple as this. You look out for yourself and your buddies. And before anyone complains about this being an insiders only thing, I also let people who weren't included in the conversation know, just because i knew they were searching for primers. If you need stuff let other people you shoot with know, they will look out for you.

 

Everyone has a fair crack at whats out on the market. If you dont like the price, dont buy it. These same primers were going for $500 per thousand on gun broker. I wasn't going to pay that, but I sure as hell would mak my order out at a price point that I found acceptable.

That's the beauty of living in the land of the free, and the home of the brave. We're all entitled to our opinion. Nuff said -- from me at least.

I agree with this.. I'm one of those new shooters as well..

 

To Howard, DSD and new shooters: I am glad to see new gun owners.

 

NJ has about 11% firearm owners, which is far below national levels. If we are going to be heard, it is not just about yelling the loudest. It is also about increasing that percentage, welcoming new gun owners, extending the sport and culture of responsible firearm ownership. Increasing percentage of gun ownership is our best chance to secure our rights against constant encroachment.

This is going to sound dickish and get me flamed but so be it.

 

Today federal primers went on sale from a major online retailer. A bunch of the people who I shoot with started a group message and maxed out our orders as soon as it went up. I would be surprised if we did not buy the majority of what was available. Federal primers are a hugely hot commodity because it will run in just about any gun that has a trigger job unlike CCI's as well as WIN and REM. None of us plan to resell, just pad our own stock so we can still shoot at the same pace that we have been for the past 18 months. You can call us hoarders all you want, but its come to be as simple as this. You look out for yourself and your buddies. And before anyone complains about this being an insiders only thing, I also let people who weren't included in the conversation know, just because i knew they were searching for primers. If you need stuff let other people you shoot with know, they will look out for you.

 

Everyone has a fair crack at whats out on the market. If you dont like the price, dont buy it. These same primers were going for $500 per thousand on gun broker. I wasn't going to pay that, but I sure as hell would mak my order out at a price point that I found acceptable.

 

No flames from here. Buying a few months ago would have been better, but as the saying goes, better late than never.

Well as long as we're giving opinions here's mine....I have enough to shoot..albeit at a reduced level..if I see a box somewhere I'll replenish the box I shot...I'm not using NORAD type Internet ammo stock monitors and instant notifications to jump online and get the maximum amount of everything " just so I can shoot for the next year and a half"... I realize there are plenty of people out there who don't have the means to buy supplies from the real beauties on gunbroker selling for a buck a round...or the capability to monitor websites by the minute to get in and clean house in minutes...and I am certainly not patting myself on the back repeatedly because I bought before the craze and wagging my finger at those who need ammo now because they weren't smart enough to see it coming..while people buy 5000 rounds or 10000 primers at a clip because they were lucky enough to get an email in time to get in stock knowing full well there are thousands of people who just want one freeking box to learn how to shoot or keep in the house for defense who can't find one..but this is America Land of the Free and people do what they want...just be prepared to be called out on it

I just buy ammo by the case. Keep half and sell half. It keeps costs down.

To Howard, DSD and new shooters: I am glad to see new gun owners.

 

NJ has about 11% firearm owners, which is far below national levels. If we are going to be heard, it is not just about yelling the loudest. It is also about increasing that percentage, welcoming new gun owners, extending the sport and culture of responsible firearm ownership. Increasing percentage of gun ownership is our best chance to secure our rights against constant encroachment.

 

If you're a new shooter then you wouldn't have had a reason to stock up in advance, and now you need to search for ammo and mags, which is unfortunate. As long as you don't start blaming "hoarders" or "price gougers" or anyone else, then I can sympathize.

 

The good news is ammo can be found. It may cost more than a few months ago and you may waste more time than used to be required, but you can get it. In fact, with the right attitude, some of us might be helpful.

If you're a new shooter then you wouldn't have had a reason to stock up in advance, and now you need to search for ammo and mags, which is unfortunate. As long as you don't start blaming "hoarders" or "price gougers" or anyone else, then I can sympathize.

 

The good news is ammo can be found. It may cost more than a few months ago and you may waste more time than used to be required, but you can get it. In fact, with the right attitude, some of us might be helpful.

New shooter myself. I joined Cherry Ridge so I'm on a continuos hunt for ammunition so I can enjoy membership and my new hobby. I buy from my LGS when they have something in stock but I have to mailorder for much. I can still score a rare purchase of under 30 cents/round but it's mostly miss...most out of stock before I hit confirm!

Reloading may be in my future.

I stopped by Dicks in East Brunswick after work yesterday with a few rewards coupons to kill. I took a passing glance at the ammo counter, but I wasn't expecting to see anything, so I wasn't dissappointed. What I did find there, though, was two middle aged men on the verge of tears, yelling at this kid behind the counter because they missed out on the latest shipment of .22LR. They cried about how they called every day, and even called that morning, but the three boxes they received were sold by the time they showed up. I wanted to laugh at them, but they seemed a bit unhinged, so I listened for a bit and moved on.

 

Guys, don't blame the minimum wage earning clerk at the sporting goods store because you can't find ammo. He isn't holding out on you.

Every one of us on this forum could have voted for the right candidate and Obama still would have won. Nj is a blue state.

 

NJ doesn't have to be a blue state. It is only a blue state because the blues vote and we don't.

NJ doesn't have to be a blue state. It is only a blue state because the blues vote and we don't.

 

Speak for yourself, I voted - but unlike the Blues in Illinois and Ohio I only got to vote once

Speak for yourself, I voted - but unlike the Blues in Illinois and Ohio I only got to vote once

 

Move to Hudson County.

You can't assume that every gun owner in the state is a lockstep, one issue voting Republican.

that's true.. i know a few dems that have firearms that voted for BO..

Dicks in Paramus got their Friday morning ammo delivery today. Doors open at 9:00. Line was 20 deep by 8:45. I went in with the flock at 9. They had two 50 rd boxes of 9mm. Crazy. Never had a chance.

Dicks in Paramus got their Friday morning ammo delivery today. Doors open at 9:00. Line was 20 deep by 8:45.

 

Yeah..ill just wait for a notification when ammo comes in stock online from my comfy chair

Wait until the next time it's food instead of ammo. That's going to be a wild ride. Way worse than any time in the past.