Gonna have to look at joining GFH for winter

That's your decision, but why would you shoot either of those at 25 yards? Why not shoot outdoors and make use of their capabilities?

If anything, take it to Woodland Park range so you can at least shoot at 50 yds.

 

Can I shoot rifles and shotguns at your range? What kind of ammunition is allowed?
Yes. We allow rifles under .50 calibers. We DO NOT allow ammunition that is steel core, armor piercing, tracer, incendiary, or bi-metal jacketed. Shotguns are allowed, however the rounds must be at least buckshot or slugs. No birdshot / target loads. We ask that you inform our range staff that you intend on shooting a rifle or shotgun prior to entering the range so that they may verify your ammunition is appropriate for use on our range. Note: We do not allow pistol grip shotguns in our range. All long guns must be fired from the shoulder.

Who told you that? They're rated for 50 BMG.

That's your decision, but why would you shoot either of those at 25 yards? Why not shoot outdoors and make use of their capabilities?

This. I have to imagine the round is still accelerating at 25 yds. For the price of .30-06 I'd want to be hitting paper at least 100yds

Every rifleman should be a member of an outdoor range.  ONLY reason to fire a rifle at a 25 yard indoor range is to check for feeding/reloading issues, check equipment prior to an outdoor Match, or to verify correction of FTF issues, and you can do THAT with less than 5 rounds--two when the mag is full, one in the middle, and one-two at the end of a mag, till bolt hold-open.  Any firing other than those five rounds is just a waste of good lead IMHO!

 

Going to GFH's 50 yard indoor range is another matter entirely!  It's a designated rifle range and you have fair warning to expect LOUD reports.  The use of PLUGS AND Muffs will make for a better experience.  I KNOW, because I was there next to a .308 semi!

 

Dave

What is the range's concern with birdshot?

 

I'm guessing I could shoot 00 there but not #8?  Am I wrong?

Birdshot can bounce back and blind you.  And it's a real mess to sweep-up, as you can slip and fall.

This. I have to imagine the round is still accelerating at 25 yds. For the price of .30-06 I'd want to be hitting paper at least 100yds

I agree, it would be a shame to be limited to shooting rounds like this at only 25 yards--but any round is decelerating as soon as it leaves the muzzle.

I agree, it would be a shame to be limited to shooting rounds like this at only 25 yards--but any round is decelerating as soon as it leaves the muzzle.

Yes that makes sense. I meant it would still be rising as compared to the plane of his optics.

You can always trek up to the Davis Sport Shop Range in Goshen NY. They go out to 100 yards. I head up there when the weather is just too nasty to shoot outdoors in the winter.

 

http://www.davissport.com/range.asp

Lunker

 

That is a perfectly acceptable zero distance for any rife.

 

FYI

Average Joe

 

A young girl on the phone. She also told me it had to be no greater than 2500 fps. Obviously she missed the employee orientation session. :-)

You are correct about zeroing. Doing it indoors would be my last choice.

On would agree with you in you can make it stop raining

ive done 30-06 and 7.62x54r there

I believe the 25M zero is based on the 5.56 round ballistics: it's rising through 25 meters where it crosses the plane of sight (when viewed through the small-aperture), and theoretically should descend and cross the plane of sight around 300 meters... there are other distances i.e. 200M, but I'm not current on them, so I'll defer to the serious AR guys. It's not a true zero - just a "close enough" estimate for soldiers who don't have access to a range. You can theoretically zero any weapon, at any distance, given the correct ballistic data, but I would not have zeroed my AR varmint rifle at 25 M before I had to sell it (thanks, NJ).

 

Enough of that, though; what .308 were you gonna shoot?

Sixty two

 

You are mostly correct, but the method gets you within a couple inches worse case with any caliber out to 100 yards when it's either really freakin cold out or your honey do list is so long you don't have time to drive out to 100 yards range. My methods are documented and practical with my personal lifestyle commitments and general laziness.

Oh ;-). I was shooting a brand new Thompson dimension with a Vortex Viper PST 6-24 FFP

 

Needed to get the turret zeros close so I could install the shims.

From the FAQ section of our website:

 

*What types of ammo can I use at the range? We allow up to .308 on the range for rifles and have no restrictions on handguns. Slug only for shotguns. No armor piercing, tracer, or steel core ammunition allowed. 

And there ya have it...might want to edit the thread title.

Then you should inform your staff on the policies

Spoke to all the of the employees in my shop and they all know the policy, you may have misheard. I am glad we were able to clear it up.

I can see shooting a rifle indoors when you're trying to get some standing offhand practice for a match.  I wouldn't zero at that distance, just aim at the same point and make sure all the shots group tight wherever they land.  

Wow I guess you guys know more about it than the US military then

I did not miss hear. Denial of a problem is poor leadership.

 

How could I miss hear "it needs to be less than 2500 feet per second "

 

Talk about pulling something out of your A$$

 

You should be more concerned about your employees lying to you.

Honestly I don't understand why you even come to RTSP. We respect all of our customers and yet you continue to bash us at every turn. You know me, but I don't know you. Hiding on a forum with your contined discord is silly. I will not be addressing this topic any longer and likewise will be ignoring further nonsense from DMAN.

 

Childish comments like "pulling something out of your ass" are partially the reason we left the forum in the first place.

 

Ridiculous.

All I did was articulate what your employee told me and you rebutted ME. I did nothing wrong other than to hurt your wittle feewings.

 

A professional response would have been to say the you reviewed the policies with our employees and they now understand what is allowed and what is not. If one of our employees have out incorrect information we apologize that a mistake was made. If you have any questions or concerns please call.

 

But ... This is Jersey. ... Never happen

Lol. Come see me next time your in.

Dude he gave you the information you requested.  He said he talked to his staff.  You don't want to go there, just don't go.  

 

I also dont know what branch of the military taught you to set zero on a high powered round at 25 yards.  I can see you bore sight at that distance but don't see you getting an accurate zero at longer ranges.