Is there no end to legislative creativity?

http://nj1015.com/nj-congressman-wants-tax-hike-on-guns-and-ammo-audio/

Funny part is where it says it will help fight crime. But what they really mean is to bury us so deep we want out of the hobby... Fook them... I pay taxes that includes fighting crime. We all do!

Oh and where she says we have to pay for it. Not we, us, the gun owners. She won't pay shet because prob not even a gun owner So we law abiders get to suffer more. Cross fingers CC tells them to F-Off!

If they raise sales tax on everything that people buy, by .01% they will raise 100x more money. They just like sticking it to gun owner.

It's a federal bill sponsored by a dems from Illinois and New Jersey

 

http://www.ammoland.com/2013/08/taxing-firearms-to-double-down-on-failed-government-policies/#axzz2chGA7Hca

The gun shops and ammo sellers in NJ better ban tiogether and form an industry trade group quick and start lobbying.

This is going to drive many more sales to mail order. I'm not paying %5 extra to fund a bloated system.

From http://nj1015.com/nj-congressman-wants-tax-hike-on-guns-and-ammo-audio/

The Gun Violence Prevention and Safe Communities Act would:

• Increase the excise taxes on firearms from 10%-11% to 20%.
• Increase the excise tax on ammunition from 11% to 50%.
• Exempt all US government agencies from tax.
• Maintain the exemption for state and local governments, including police departments.
• Increase the Special Occupational Tax on firearm importers, manufacturers and dealers.
• Include assault pistols in the definition of firearms covered under the National Firearms Act.
• Increase the transfer tax on all weapons (except antique guns) covered under the National Firearms Act (excludes most common guns) from $200 to $500 and index to inflation.
• Increase the transfer tax for any other weapon from $5 to $100 and index to inflation
• Redirect revenue raised by the Act to: 35% COPS; 35% Project Safe Neighborhoods; 10% CDC Research; 5% National Criminal History Improvement Program; and 5% NICS Act Record Improvement Program; 5% and grants to schools and districts to implement comprehensive, evidence-based discipline systems to improve school climate.

 

Not just a bump in taxes.. a pretty big bump

Hopefully this follows most proposed bills and ends up in the recycle bin.  It's a House bill so I can't imagine this will get much traction.

Instead of taxing law-abiding gun owners who are innocent, why not add an additional fine/seize assets of those convicted of gun crimes?

If this is truly for safety measures that will benefit all NJ residents, then why must only gun owners bear the tax burden rather than having all NJ residents contribute?

Not gonna happen. A 50% tax on ammo is going to kill this bill before it comes to the floor. 

If this is truly for safety measures that will benefit all NJ residents, then why must only gun owners bear the tax burden rather than having all NJ residents contribute?

 

Because, in the minds of those that proposed the legislation, it is law-abiding gun owners that make firearms and ammunition available to criminals.

Not gonna happen. A 50% tax on ammo is going to kill this bill before it comes to the floor.

100% correct. Won't even come to a vote. It's just a feel good proposal for them

Is there no end to legislative creativity?

http://nj1015.com/nj-congressman-wants-tax-hike-on-guns-and-ammo-audio/

 

This piece was written in January.

 

Kind of old news by now.

This piece was written in January.

 

Kind of old news by now.

Perhaps.. but it was on the front page today.  The other link (nj1015.com and ammoland) are all from today as well.

http://newjersey.news12.com/news/gun-bill-proposed-by-rep-bill-pascrell-would-raise-taxes-on-weapons-ammunition-1.5933062

 

Not old... resurrected.

I have a brilliant plan!  I am going to eliminate drunk drivers by levying a tax on new cars!  That will raise the cost of a car so high that people who drink can't afford one.

 

I am so smart!  S-M-R-T!

This piece was written in January.

 

Kind of old news by now.

My bad. I meant to post the recent link. oops.

I feel guilty everytime I order ammo because the price is good as I'm well stocked for my needs. Then I read these things and keep looking for more.

Here's a good quote, demonstrating lib innumeracy: " "Worse yet, the tax rate on ammunition and other types of firearms has remained the same since 1941."

 

Ummm, the cost of those things has increase since then, due to inflation. Thus, the tax has also risen, indexed for inflation.

 

Is the idea to increase the tax *rate* every year until it reaches 1000s of percent? Maybe.

They were comparing it to tobacco and gas taxes...iirc... So they feel they can do the same to us...

 

Here's a good quote, demonstrating lib innumeracy: " "Worse yet, the tax rate on ammunition and other types of firearms has remained the same since 1941."

 

Ummm, the cost of those things has increase since then, due to inflation. Thus, the tax has also risen, indexed for inflation.

 

Is the idea to increase the tax *rate* every year until it reaches 1000s of percent? Maybe.

 

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If this is truly for safety measures that will benefit all NJ residents, then why must only gun owners bear the tax burden rather than having all NJ residents contribute?

We have a winning answer

Looks like this bill didn't go far. 

 

A3727 Imposes additional five percent tax on sale of firearms and ammunition to fund safety infrastructure improvements in public buildings. 

Budget 

  

Wagner, Connie   as Primary Sponsor

Eustace, Timothy J.   as Primary Sponsor

 

 

1/28/2013 Introduced, Referred to Assembly Budget Committee

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http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/

 

Flanked by local community leaders, law enforcement officials and gun violence prevention groups yesterday, Pascrell unveiled legislation to increase federal taxes on guns and ammunition. 

• Increase the excise taxes on firearms from 10%-11% to 20%.
• Increase the excise tax on ammunition from 11% to 50%.

   

  http://nj1015.com/nj-congressman-wants-tax-hike-on-guns-and-ammo-audio/

 

Absurd. 

Good luck trying to implement this lunacy on federal level  

Thank God we have a Republican House of Representatives nationally, and a Republican governor in our state, or they would all just be bending us over and having their way with us.  (Hope that metaphor is not too strong for the mods.)

Because a deranged killer cares if his box of ammo costs $30 instead of $20?

IT SAYS ASSAULT PISTOLS

Absurd. 

Good luck trying to implement this lunacy on federal level

We're just one amnesty vote away from it.

We need a Second Amendment Sales Tax Holiday.

When is enough going to be enough?

When no one can legally own firearms, then they'll move on to something else.

Funny part is where it says it will help fight crime.

 

Thats exactly it.  This is to punish gun owners. 

 

This would also be very harmful to small businesses. 

 

5% on top of the 7%, on top of the already higher NJ prices.

 

We would always buy out of state.