February 2, 201412 yr I was practicing my GOOGLE FU tonight looking up different gun safe/security ideas tonight and came across this idea that seemed might work well as is or in combination with the Tactical Wall's product and some more work to secure the sides and a real "lock".... Website with more info here: http://imgur.com/a/XKNBk I think it needs some more thought put in to the edges and the locking set up but the concept is pretty cool, and cost effective if you are looking to have something semi secure and quick access. Thoughts & comments?
February 2, 201412 yr have you looked at NJ Concealment Furniture https://www.facebook.com/NJConcealment http://njconceal.com/ some of their new stuff isn't on website yet but on FB
February 2, 201412 yr Author have you looked at NJ Concealment Furniture https://www.facebook.com/NJConcealment http://njconceal.com/ I took a look at the site the other nigh. I like some of the stuff but none of it matches the house decor and the wife kind of turned her nose at the styles. Still looking for options...
February 2, 201412 yr I was practicing my GOOGLE FU tonight looking up different gun safe/security ideas tonight and came across this idea that seemed might work well as is or in combination with the Tactical Wall's product and some more work to secure the sides and a real "lock".... Website with more info here: http://imgur.com/a/XKNBk I think it needs some more thought put in to the edges and the locking set up but the concept is pretty cool, and cost effective if you are looking to have something semi secure and quick access. Thoughts & comments? I love this. Having it on the wall at shoulder height makes so much sense to me. Small children can't get to it easily and if you need it, you don't need to crouch down to retrieve it.
February 2, 201412 yr I've been toying with the idea to get one of these... i like that it has a lock .http://tacticalwalls.com/shop/1242-rls/
February 2, 201412 yr I always loved concealed, I think it's better than a safe... Quicker to get to and less chance of thief breaking into it
February 2, 201412 yr I hope no crooks are looking at those pictures! I was thinking of the same thing.
February 2, 201412 yr I hope no crooks are looking at those pictures! That's one of the first places they look
February 2, 201412 yr Pretty cool idea. Not sure if I would use one in the house. Workshop I probably would though.
February 2, 201412 yr Looking in paintings, underneath beds, etc is home robbery 101. More often than not, any professional home robber will rip everything down looking for money or valuables. The only way I would feel secure hiding stuff around is either in the wall somehow, or affixed to the wall in a safe or something. Depending on the weapon it isn't too difficult to stow something in a wall or maybe furniture with a hidden door.
February 2, 201412 yr There is a furniture maker in Jersey (off 22-78 I think) that makes custom pieces with hidden compartments. He was at the NJ2AS seminar last month.
February 2, 201412 yr There is a furniture maker in Jersey (off 22-78 I think) that makes custom pieces with hidden compartments. He was at the NJ2AS seminar last month. already posted have you looked at NJ Concealment Furniture https://www.facebook.com/NJConcealment http://njconceal.com/ some of their new stuff isn't on website yet but on FB
February 2, 201412 yr I hope no crooks are looking at those pictures! I always loved concealed, I think it's better than a safe... Quicker to get to and less chance of thief breaking into it I was thinking of the same thing. That's one of the first places they look That's one of the first places they look All of this. it won't take crooks long to start just crowbarring every piece of furniture they see with remotely thick trim work on the construction. Crowbar, 10# sledge, and you'd have every one of those compartments opened and cleaned out in a minute or less. As for the pictures... now everyone will be looking at a pic and going "that's awfully thick on the wall. I wonder why." The TacticalWalls ones are a little better in that at least the cover item doesn't sit abnormally proud of the wall, but the lack of locking cover mechanism (magnets are not locks) would concern me.
February 2, 201412 yr I've never been burglarized, but I've had it happen to friends - the place is usually trashed. Pictures are torn off the wall, bookshelves upended. I think that one of the things you have to understand is that when you enter a home you are already violating a pretty solid social contract - one that says a man's home is sacrosanct. If a man has already made the mental leap to violate this social contract, what other social contracts will he break? Weill he urinate in your bed? Smash your family pictures? Steal your daughter's dirty underwear? I am not a cop, but I imagine that there are basically three types of buglers: Professionals, amateurs, and opportunists. I don't think you have to worry much about the professional. He probably wants something very specific - namely jewelry or some kind of valuable to fence. He probably doesn't even want to get near a gun because he's probably served some jail time and doesn't want the additional charge if he is caught. Opportunists are the people you let into your home - the guys who so some yardwork and take $20 out of your wife's purse when they use your bathroom. They probably don't want your guns either. Although the world is full of amateurs. Maybe it's the friend of the guy who stole out of your wife's purse? Maybe it's some kids down the street who just want jewelry, cash or prescription meds? If they found a gun when they were going through your things they would probably take it - they're probably played enough Call of Duty to think they know how it works. But I wouldn't put it past those guys to trash your house just because they can. If you have a gun, you need a safe. Preferably an alarmed safe. If you feel you need quick access to it, it needs to be on your hip or in a biometric vault that will at least slow a thief down to the point that they give up because it's too much of a pain. Decoy safes aren't a bad idea either. Get a little lockbox and fill it with some cash, coins, maybe important-looking documents. Put that in your dresser drawer. The thief grabs the decoy safe and runs. He gets a few bucks, but he doesn't stick around to take your guns. If any of you LEO's out there have a different opinion of my view on buglers, I'd love to see if my theory is correct.
February 2, 201412 yr As for the pictures... now everyone will be looking at a pic and going "that's awfully thick on the wall. I wonder why." The TacticalWalls ones are a little better in that at least the cover item doesn't sit abnormally proud of the wall, but the lack of locking cover mechanism (magnets are not locks) would concern me. Frame out the wall like a window opening, cover with a "flat" picture and electro-magnetic locks.
February 2, 201412 yr I am not a cop, but I imagine that there are basically three types of buglers: Professionals, amateurs, and opportunists. Buglers? Like these? I don't think you really need to worry about Buglers. I recall from my childhood that family friends were victims of theft. They mentioned that the thieves had upended the sugar and flour containers. The cops told them that is because some people hide valuables there. There was a show on TV that detailed many thieves methods and helped people secure their homes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Takes_a_Thief_%282005_TV_series%29 These "concealment devices" are rather well known. Anything that is in the mass market becomes a target. The custom stuff like NJ Concealment furniture is better in that it's not so "common". In addition, most of his devices seem to have a lock of some sort.
February 2, 201412 yr Most of the bad actors (around here, anyway) have been mostly smash and grab. They bash something in, run to what looks to be the master bedroom, toss the place and split. Gone in like 3 minutes. Probably almost anything - concealment or safe - work work against them. If you do not have an alarm and give someone a ton of time in your house they will get anything open.
February 2, 201412 yr Buglers? Like these? I don't think you really need to worry about Buglers. I disagree. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to own a bugle today. Bugles are basically military-grade signaling devices. Imagine if a child brought a bugle to school and brought down a Calvary charge into his classroom?
February 2, 201412 yr I disagree. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to own a bugle today. Bugles are basically military-grade signaling devices. Imagine if a child brought a bugle to school and brought down a Calvary charge into his classroom? Bahahaha! Or better yet into a NJ Legislature hearing. Why not just put a gun in the wall? Lube it with grease instead of oil, have a holster with a TLR-1s mounted between studs, and have a spot inconspicuously marked so you know where to punch a hole.
February 2, 201412 yr I disagree. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to own a bugle today. Bugles are basically military-grade signaling devices. Imagine if a child brought a bugle to school and brought down a Calvary charge into his classroom? Love it! Finally someone on this damn forum w humor to rival mine.
February 3, 201412 yr Makes sense. I can't picture a crook wanting an ugly painting. Ha! Neighbor got robbed last year by a pair of guys in the middle of the day. They took the cheap plastic wrestling trophies the kid had in his bedroom, among other things.
February 3, 201412 yr I disagree. There is absolutely no reason for anyone to own a bugle today. Bugles are basically military-grade signaling devices. Imagine if a child brought a bugle to school and brought down a Calvary charge into his classroom? Its Cavalry....Calvary is where Jesus was crucified....unless you mean the buglers will start to crucify people? http://grammarist.com/usage/calvary-cavalry/
February 3, 201412 yr Makes sense. I can't picture a crook wanting an ugly painting. I read that one of the first things those assholes do is tear everything off the walls, just in case something interesting is behind those "ugly paintings".
February 3, 201412 yr I've always wanted a safe behind a painting because it is practical and has the Bond effect.
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