What's really bizzare with Sweeney and the Newtown families and ten rounds is that there is no relation. Lanza shot himself before cops arrived right? And the CO movie theatre shooter just stopped and walked out and sat down. The amout of death at each scene had nothing to do with mag capacity. I mean I can understand Newtown families relating to AWB or something. But mag capacity didn't have any affect on lives in that mental nutjob scenario

Lanza also only fired half the rounds in his mags and reloaded like in a video game

Lanza also only fired half the rounds in his mags and reloaded like in a video game

Hmm , tactical reloads

And this BS about mass shootings having been stopped by a hero jumping the gunman during a reload ?

Please, ONE was stopped when the gun jammed

 

It should be noted, I am a fudd

My plastic fantastics were bought when 10 rnds was the standard here in the PRNJ as was my M4gery , I only recently purchased a couple of 15 rnd Pmags, had I known they were going to pull this crap again I'd have just bought more ammo

It's never about stopping mass shootings.

For the Sandy Hookers, it's about revenge. Guns killed their kids. Gotta ban the guns because it will make them feel better that the evil guns that killed their kid are gone. 

 

For the politicians it's about multiple things. For one it's about pandering to a liberal base that just doesn't like or has a fear of guns. 

 

For the people, they are either just afraid of guns in general. It's something icky and unknown to them. 

It's never about stopping mass shootings.

For the Sandy Hookers, it's about revenge. Guns killed their kids. Gotta ban the guns because it will make them feel better that the evil guns that killed their kid are gone. 

 

For the politicians it's about multiple things. For one it's about pandering to a liberal base that just doesn't like or has a fear of guns. 

 

For the people, they are either just afraid of guns in general. It's something icky and unknown to them.

 

There's an excellent quote from (believe it or not), the old "West Wing" TV series.   Ainsley Hayes, was a conservative attorney hired to work at the White House to represent a "balancing" view. On her first episode, she got into it with Sam Seaborn about, of all things, the 2nd amendment. Sam, of course, taking the standard liberal "anti-gun" view. It also didn't help that this happened, just after both President Bartlett and Josh Lyman had been shot in Roslyn, Va. in the previous season finale.

 

The gist of the discussion was:

 

I'm so sick and tired of people walking around, talking about freedoms and personal safety and nobody calling 'em on it.

 

This isn't about safety and it's not about personal freedoms... it's about "some people just like guns."

Yes, they do.

 

But you know what's more insidious than that?

 

Your gun control position has nothing to do with safety and it's certainly not about personal freedoms.

 

It's about "You don't like people who *do* like guns... You don't like the *people*.

 

Think about that... the next time you make a joke about the South.

 

 

One of the few quotes about it that actually makes sense and has some truth to it.

There's an excellent quote from (believe it or not), the old "West Wing" TV series.   Ainsley Hayes, played a conservative attorney hired to work at the White House to represent a "balancing" view. On her first episode, she got into it with Sam Seaborn about, of all things, the 2nd amendment. Sam, of course, taking the standard liberal "anti-gun" view. It also didn't help that this happened, just after both President Bartlett and Josh Lyman had been shot in Roslyn, Va. in the previous season finale.

 

The gist of the discussion was:

 

 

 

One of the few quotes about it that actually makes sense and has some truth to it.

That Emmy-winning series had a lot of great quotes, and I for one try to use them when I can as well.  I own every season in a boxed set.  One of my favorite episodes is "The Supreme's", where a tin of dry cookies puts a Liberal Lion on the SCOTUS.

 

Both sides pander, and remember to not throw-out the Baby with the bathwater, since some Southern Dems vote for 2A issues because they'd lose their seats if they didn't!  And the Dem Leadership knows this, and they put on a front of arm-twisting to appease the left wingers in the Party.  

 

It's all a Big Game, and we're just pawns in a sick Play...

That Emmy-winning series had a lot of great quotes, and I for one try to use them when I can as well.  I own every season in a boxed set.

Not only do I own that boxed set (i.e. blue folio box), I own a backup copy of it.

 

 

One of my favorite episodes is "The Supreme's", where a tin of dry cookies puts a Liberal Lion on the SCOTUS.

 

As CJOTUS, no less. "Lioness," actually. The actress was Glenn Close, in fact. Bill Fichtner played her conservative counterpart that was also appointed.

 

Both sides pander, and remember to not throw-out the Baby with the bathwater, since some Southern Dems vote for 2A issues because they'd lose their seats if they didn't!  And the Dem Leadership knows this, and they put on a front of arm-twisting to appease the left wingers in the Party.  

 

It's all a Big Game, and we're just pawns in a sick Play...

"Mongo only pawn.... in game of life."

 

I didn't know it until I was watching the commentary by Mel Brooks, that, in fact, it was Richard Pryor (one of the movie's writers) who wrote that line (and most of Mongo's lines).

 

 

Not only do I own that boxed set (i.e. blue folio box), I own a backup copy of it.

 

 

 

As CJOTUS, no less. "Lioness," actually. The actress was Glenn Close, in fact. Bill Fichtner played her conservative counterpart that was also appointed.

 

"Mongo only pawn.... in game of life."

 

I didn't know it until I was watching the commentary by Mel Brooks, that, in fact, it was Richard Pryor (one of the movie's writers) who wrote that line (and most of Mongo's lines).

 

 

And all of this "Chain-Yanking" in front of Toby (about DOMA) wouldn't have happened if it weren't for Milo O'Shea steppin'-down and retiring as Chief Justice Ashland.  Fichtner's best line was during the interview in the Oval, "It's Sheltons from here on in!" and "We all have our roles to play, Sir.  Yours is to nominate someone who doesn't alienate people" was very powerful and speaks volumes to the current state of affairs, as does lots of the creative works from that series.  Sometimes I watch 15 year old episodes from season #1 and wonder if the Writers didn't have crystal balls into the future....

 

As for the Mag limit, it actually matters NOT, because the Goobermint doesn't have the overtime pay to go house-to-house YET.  Hundreds of thousands of 15 round mags out in circulation...all unregistered....might as well try making prohibition the law of the land again.  Meanwhile, back in Millburn (a quaint little, expensive and well-kept town) car jackings, murders and home invasions are the order of the day.  IF it just so happens that a Perp goes out on a platter from a gun owner with a standard capacity magazine, if the Cops go to arrest him, I swear to you that will be the straw that broke the camel's back and they'll have a RIOT on their hands by the time the homeowner is processed!  And I think they all KNOW that!  

 

More moving of the Pawns.....time to watch what's in their other hand!