so I do not have health insurance... in preparing for the fine I expect to be levied against me by our supreme ruler I was poking around on healthcare.gov and read the following..

 

What happens if I don't pay the fee?

The IRS will hold back the amount of the fee from any future tax refunds. There are no liens, levies, or criminal penalties for failing to pay the fee.

 

 

 

https://www.healthcare.gov/fees-exemptions/fee-for-not-being-covered/

 

I have my taxes setup so that the gov gets the bare minimum.. I end up owing a small amount at the end of the year.. and get no refund..  my simple brain computes these factors as meaning the following..

 

I do not pay

they have no return to deduct from

they are screwed

 

am I missing something here..

i would think that they would send you an additional tax bill over and above what your tax preparation sets out that you owe.  i could be really wrong though

My understanding was that if they couldn't deduct it from what you get back then you don't pay the fine. That was a loophole.

Yes, the IRS would just wait you out until you ever stumbled into a refund and claw it back then.

You voted for him.

 

You are his constituent. Call his office and request an explanation.

Ain't it wonderful?

 

You are being penalized for not having healthcare.

 

I am being penalized for having a "Cadillac" health plan

All i know is once the IRS is involved , you better keep your money in a safe place. The IRS has long arms.

The government is never screwed.  When computing the amount you owe the "penalty" will be added to your tax liability, less your withholding, the balance is..................

Wouldn't an additional "penalty fee" be added to your taxes at the end of the year? Then when you don't pay it, the IRS comes after you?

The law was and is a total cluster-fuck.  The only way in the code they can ding you is if you over pay.  Thus, unless they owe you a refund there is no mechanism for them to collect.  They cannot by law bill you or add it to your tax bill.  They may only deduct it from an overpayment.  So, as long as you owe them, you are safe.

You will get a tax bill with interest tacked on. Bad move not to have health insurance irrespective of your political philosophy but that is your call.

From what i understand. Refunds will only be held... there is no Enforcement plans in regards to sending bills. I think this was one of the ways the Left figured they would piss off less people. That being said..

 

You need to get health Insurance and be a good citizen. You should pay you're fair share so others who are less fortunate then you can get affordable health coverage.  Health Insurance is a right just as firearm ownership.

From what i understand. Refunds will only be held... there is no Enforcement plans in regards to sending bills. I think this was one of the ways the Left figured they would piss off less people. That being said..

 

You need to get health Insurance and be a good citizen. You should pay you're fair share so others who are less fortunate then you can get affordable health coverage.  Health Insurance is a right just as firearm ownership.

 

Sorry i had to see how it felt to be an asshole left wing prick... I feel dirty now.

go kill a live animal, dress it and eat it. you'll feel better.

I will also be penalized for my cadillac plan. Not sure exactly how yet

 

You voted for him.

 

You are his constituent. Call his office and request an explanation.

 

Who voted for "him"?

Those who did deserve what they get!

Who voted for "him"?

Those who did deserve what they get!

Many of those who voted for him now have us paying for their insurance

You voted for him.

 

You are his constituent. Call his office and request an explanation.

 

 

i definitely did not vote for him.. lol

or any democrat ever in my life for that matter..

The law was and is a total cluster-fuck.  The only way in the code they can ding you is if you over pay.  Thus, unless they owe you a refund there is no mechanism for them to collect.  They cannot by law bill you or add it to your tax bill.  They may only deduct it from an overpayment.  So, as long as you owe them, you are safe.

 

this is what I am reading... but just wanted to be sure..

"please someoen with a brain explain this (healthare fee)"

 

I see what you did there.

go kill a live animal, dress it and eat it. you'll feel better.

That works! Trust me! Lol...

I will also be penalized for my cadillac plan. Not sure exactly how yet

 

Well if you are a PS in NJ you are already paying the prelude with the liar in Trenton.

I will also be penalized for my cadillac plan. Not sure exactly how yet

How do you know? Curious how they define a Cadillac plan and how you find out if your plan qualifies.

I know two other people who do not have insurance, basically in the same boat as you. Just like you neither one will yield to this insanity.

 

And just like you they're playing with fire.

 

You do what you want. It's a formerly-free country. But let uncle Ang gell you something: If you break your arm falling out of a tree stand or fall down three steps like I did a few months ago and are not as lucky as me (never went to a doctor), you could be on the hook for 10-20-30,000 dollars in no time. My neighbor had a simple foot operation at Newton Memorial ("Memorial" because most patients die, and are thus memorialized) a couple of years ago. Six days in the "healthcare center," a $92,000 f-ing bill. 

 

They are like wolves. If you're unlucky you'll never get out of their clutches. You'll owe them and owe them and owe them forever.

 

Obamacare is of course an Obamination, like everything else this guy has done. But you have to sign up, you have to or the slightest problem will ruin you. 

 

When we were first married our health insurance premium was around $500 per year. It covered the birth of our first child even. The same week my wife was hired as a teacher 16 years ago our premium doubled, from $4800 to $9600. It was a lucky deal...I was able to throw the letter in the mail. The value of that plan must now be in the $30,000-$40,000 range.

 

If you can benefit from this f-ing farce I suggest you do. Look out for yourself. 

 

As they say, "just sayin.'"

My wife was bit by a stray cat 2 years ago and the shot series was $70,000. We had to pay $25 for the ER visit. Our insurance covered the rest. "just say'n".

I went without health insurance for 4 or 5 years in my 20s and it was definitely a gamble. I fell while snowboarding and broke 3 ribs (confirmed in a later x Ray) and had to tough it out. Not like they could do anything anyway for broken ribs. Now I am lucky that my wife got a job that provides health insurance for us otherwise I would probably be in the same boat as you now. I would not want any part of Obamacare. I don't blame you for going without health insurance but it was always in the back of my mind that what if something goes wrong I would have been screwed

life is a gamble.. and I get that I am rolling the dice.. I fully plan to get health care.. but I plan to get it on my terms.. and not the governments.. we moved to PA a few years ago.. and while my job is going well.. it is not stable yet.. we are in a transitional phase with new owners.. my fiance is also at school and hopes to start working a real job by this time next year (and we will be married) so I plan on getting it by then one way or another.. but what I will not do is be bullied into some bullshit by some asshole in an office somewhere that thinks he can make my life decisions for me... so that is where all this came from.. I fully understand the importance of insurance.. and how without it I could run into some serious issues.. but my issue is getting it when I am ready.. and my family situation is more stable allowing me to justify the cost..

Funny. Your complaining? I'm paying for healthcare, paying for people getting Obummer care, and paying a "Afordable Health Care Act Administrative Cost Offset Tax"

You'll change your mind when you get your first emergency room bill.

I went to Newton Memorial for a kidney stone (I get them often). Normally I just pass them on my own, but every once in a while I have to go to the hospital or urologist when it's a big one. So because I was in agony for about 30 hours straight I bit the bullet and headed to the emergency room. They gave me a cat scan, an IV for about an hour and sent me home with 4 percocet along with a script for a bottle. Told me to keep drinking water, there's a 5mm stone almost out of my kidney into my bladder. Got the bill a few weeks later $6k! I was there for a total of an hour and 20 min. Think about the guns I could have gotten for $6k... BTW I passed the stone about two hours after I got home from the hospital. Boy that was the most expensive bottle of pain killers ever!

 

Just get insurance man its a game of Russian roulette without it! Luckily Mrs. Deerslayer is now an Atlantic Health employee the family Healthcare plan is very good. And my workman's comp covers me on the job.