Point taken. Just pointing out that products can be had very reasonably and can try different things to get some hands on

 

 

to take it a step further I think that platforms like keymod could totally replace the need for rails in the future.. you get significant weight savings... direct attachment of accessories.. the ability to attach rails where you want it (if you really want a section of rail for some reason)... and direct attachment covers to minimize heat transfer..

 

in building an AR now.. today.. keymod is IMO where its at..

Yeah, I don't have much of a need for it right now. There's not all that much I hang off my guns

Yeah, I don't have much of a need for it right now. There's not all that much I hang off my guns

 

not much you say?

 

 

 

Working on my SPR idea I want to mount a reflex type sight like the burris fastfire on my rifle.  Whats the best way to do this?  I'm leaning towards using a 45 degree rail somewhere (not sure the best position for it).  I have the ability to mount it on top of my scope rings, or to buy another mount somehow.   Does anyone utilize this in a better way?

 

I will have a 15" vtac handguard and a nikon scope in a pepr mount like this:

 

 

 

sorry.. had to do it.. lol

Lol you think that's a lot?? I was talking about my HGS only btw

 

Lol you think that's a lot?? I was talking about my HGS only

 

I am not sure there is anything left to put on there? maybe a laser? lol

Lol. Well why do I need a super duper customizable hg at a premium price?

Lol. Well why do I need a super duper customizable hg at a premium price?

 

the reason for me was weight and length... and I really like the narrow width.. I know what you have works fine.. serves the function.. but im an OCD nut.. so for me it just has to be exactly how I picture it.. and as soon as I saw the NSR I knew it was the one.. slim with panels on most of it.. and just a light.. I am considering a front grip.. there are some promising kemod offerings starting to hit market..

 

I do agree that some sort of keymod, mlok or the like will be the future. I happen to like the bcm magnesium kmr but I don't feel it necessary to spend ~400 on a rail system at the moment. When enough get out into the wild and start getting unloaded I'll pick some up on the cheap.

not much you say?

 

 

 

sorry.. had to do it.. lol

haaaa, you have to admit that was funny.

I do agree that some sort of keymod, mlok or the like will be the future. I happen to like the bcm magnesium kmr but I don't feel it necessary to spend ~400 on a rail system at the moment. When enough get out into the wild and start getting unloaded I'll pick some up on the cheap.

 

 

agree.. that is a nice piece.. I am not sure I know enough about magnesium to really judge.. but my understanding is very strong and light..

I do agree that some sort of keymod, mlok or the like will be the future. I happen to like the bcm magnesium kmr but I don't feel it necessary to spend ~400 on a rail system at the moment. When enough get out into the wild and start getting unloaded I'll pick some up on the cheap.

The BCM is nice but I still think the size and shape of the NSR is more perfecter .

 

There are a ton of offerings that work great with the stock barrel nut and most will fit over a cut down front sight post

The BCM is nice but I still think the size and shape of the NSR is more perfecter .

 

There are a ton of offerings that work great with the stock barrel nut and most will fit over a cut down front sight post

 

I would be shocked to find ANY that would not fit over a chopped front sight.. I have a chopped front sight sitting under both of my NSRs.. it was tight.. but it fit..

Hi all, I just ordered a mi#18ss handguard from bcm and that completes everything except for optics. At the end of the day the total cost ended up being $ 1145. I think for now I'm just going to install my bushnell trs-25. Ideally I want to put a scope on.

Hi all, I just ordered a mi#18ss handguard from bcm and that completes everything except for optics. At the end of the day the total cost ended up being $ 1145. I think for now I'm just going to install my bushnell trs-25. Ideally I want to put a scope on.

how much? had one i could sell you cheap..

The handguard was 149. If that's what your talking about.

if this is what you ordered...

 

http://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=1030

 

maybe return it and I will save you some cash..

 

midwest industries drop in 2 piece mid length rail $75 (Includes 1 aluminum rail and 1 polymer rail)
very very light, rail does have several small holes drilled in it where tape switches were zip tied in the past, if you use Larue clips the holes are not really visible.
This is certainly not a new in box piece and has been put to use

 

here it was when I used to have it mounted on the gun..

 

here it was when I used to have it mounted on the gun..

 

vlad, thanks it's already on its way.

Any one using the Nikon p-223? I'm trying to decide if I should use my bushnell trs-25 or go with the Nikon. I'm going to be shooting mostly 150yds and less. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks

vlad, thanks it's already on its way.

Return it... LOL you would still be way ahead..

Any one using the Nikon p-223? I'm trying to decide if I should use my bushnell trs-25 or go with the Nikon. I'm going to be shooting mostly 150yds and less. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks

I have one on my 10/22 great optic out to 100 yards and beyond.

Any one using the Nikon p-223? I'm trying to decide if I should use my bushnell trs-25 or go with the Nikon. I'm going to be shooting mostly 150yds and less. Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks

I have the 4-12x. I like it and like the reticle. I'd tell you to take that $200, save for a month and buy an aimpoint pro. If you don't want to spend the $350-$400 for some reason buy a vortex SPARC.

 

There's no reason to use a scope at that distance.

Well ... if you want to know exactly how accurate your rifle can be, you are never going to get that out of a red dot.

Well ... if you want to know exactly how accurate your rifle can be, you are never going to get that out of a red dot.

at 100 yards would you say that a red dot and scope would be close in accuracy?

at 100 yards would you say that a red dot and scope would be close in accuracy?

 

Hmm no. Well, depends on what you mean I guess, the mechanical accuracy of the rifle doesn't change, the ability to actually get that accuracy out of the gun does. If the rifle/ammo/shooter combo is inaccurate enough, then it doesn't matter. Lets say the barrel and ammo combo will only ever shoot 4moa, then sure you can squeeze that out of a red dot, not problem. If the combination is capable of 1/2" groups, it is unlikely you will ever see that on the target with a red dot.

 

There is also nothing wrong with not giving a damn about that, my comment was meant to point out there are reasons for wanting a scope over a red dot, they don't have to be your reasons though

 

Full disclosure, the most scope I have on an AR is 6x, so clearly I'm not THAT worried about high power scopes on ARs

Most red dots are 3 MOA, at 100 yards that is just over 3 inches on the target.  Not very good for precision target accuracy.  For other situations this maybe acceptable. 

when I take my time... and am really patient.. I shoot pretty tight groups with a red dot... while I understand your point that the dot itself has size and lacks the precision of a more typical scope.. if you are putting the dot in the same spot.. you are going to net shots in the same spot..

Ok let me rephrase my statement: For the OP's stated intended purpose of this rifle, I see no reason to use a scope. Its not a "target" set up and 100 yds is well within reason for solid hits with an RDS. My eotech has a 1 moa dot, giving you plenty of target to look at. Plus a scope is gonna be a pain in the ass in your house for self defense unless its a true 1x. But as always, buy the gear to match your purpose.

 

Hi all I built my lower today and I had one pin left over that came in the package with the ALG act trigger https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=alg+act&source=images&cd=&ved=0CAcQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gunlistings.org%2Ftexas-gun-classifieds%2Fhouston%2Faccessories%2F142462%2Fnew_alg_act_combat_trigger_ar15_geissele_tuned_556&ei=DFPEVMfbAqXjsAThnoLYAQ&bvm=bv.84349003,d.cWc&psig=AFQjCNHeIagohMjyrvsAGTz4Ld7hVaktpw&ust=1422238802049886 see the silver pin in the bottom left of the bag, I'm not sure where it would go or if it's for a different install. Thanks

that link didn't work but my geissele trigger had a "slave" pin that made it easier to install the trigger.  is the pin slightly smaller than the width of the internal of the receiver?   

 

if so, you could put that on the trigger when installing it and then it helps when using the real pin to push it through