The rhetoric above is why Christie vetoed it. Miss him yet?

off duty. we also have 1 or 2 lawnside officers too. 

One would have to be a real turd to infringe on your Constitutional Rights while he was off duty.

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7 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said:

off duty. we also have 1 or 2 lawnside officers too. 

Good... make sure you go up to each one and have them prove their mags only hold 15.

 

11 hours ago, 1LtCAP said:

oh I don't. I had a retired leo ask me what I did about the limit as I was firing my tavor. I told him I opened em up and re-limited em to 10. he asked me how I opened em. I told him i'm a mechanic...there's no such thing as permanent to me. 

That's the problem with this law.

If you know how to make and fix shit, NOTHING is permanent.

2 hours ago, Fred2 said:

That's the problem with this law.

If you know how to make and fix shit, NOTHING is permanent.

You make that sound like it's a bad thing.

 

Any bets how long before a bill is introduced limiting mag capacity to 5rds due to current events. I mean if 10 is good 5 is better.

Any bets how long before a bill is introduced limiting mag capacity to 5rds due to current events. I mean if 10 is good 5 is better.

First it will be the new AWB that allows zero evil features. That fact that no one has been bayoneted on American Soil since the Civil War doesn't matter. The left doesn't deal in facts.

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1 hour ago, Redlines said:

Any bets how long before a bill is introduced limiting mag capacity to 5rds due to current events. I mean if 10 is good 5 is better.

How about January of 2018?

https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/A1000/655_I1.PDF

I see their 5 and raise 25!

10 minutes ago, JohnnyB said:

I see their 5 and raise 25!

I see your 25 and raise to 50.

 

1 hour ago, Redlines said:

Any bets how long before a bill is introduced limiting mag capacity to 5rds due to current events. I mean if 10 is good 5 is better.

There's a possibility they'll also try for a ban on ALL semi-autos. I don't doubt that they'll try.

In the end, they want us all back with muskets.

Just now, Sniper22 said:

I see your 25 and raise to 50.

 

Call.......We both win!

There's a possibility they'll also try for a ban on ALL semi-autos. I don't doubt that they'll try.
In the end, they want us all back with muskets.

With a maximum size ball of .22

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53 minutes ago, voyager9 said:

How about January of 2018?

https://www.njleg.state.nj.us/2018/Bills/A1000/655_I1.PDF

If the mag ban injunction isn't allowed, and the law stays, I wouldn't doubt they try for 5 next year. Winning this 10 round case is do or die for NJ.

Or, even worse, make them feel emboldened, and shoot for the sky to get, who knows, banned.

11 minutes ago, Sniper22 said:

If the mag ban injunction isn't allowed, and the law stays, I wouldn't doubt they try for 5 next year. Winning this 10 round case is do or die for NJ.

Or, even worse, feel emboldened, and shoot for the sky to get, who knows, banned.

That’s probably true. Once one arbitrary limit is upheld then the gates are open for any other arbitrary number.  It’s too bad “common use” isn’t getting applied and these things thrown out. 

Electing da Murph already emboldened them.

Can you imagine this nonsense with the Hildebeest in the White House?

 

1 hour ago, bluedog46 said:

Lets not forget many conservatives on the supreme court did not want to take these cases because they were afraid how that rino kennedy would rule. Without him there it is possible something good could come down the pipe. 

Well, it will now be interesting to see if they take up any 2A cases, since they have a conservative majority, or continue to "punt" on them, to stay out of the political mixmaster.

My prediction, they will still punt.

 

28 minutes ago, Sniper22 said:

Well, it will now be interesting to see if they take up any 2A cases, since they have a conservative majority, or continue to "punt" on them, to stay out of the political mixmaster.

My prediction, they will still punt.

 

I think the only reason they may "punt" is to wait for one more Trump appointed justice.  They may not feel secure if they go full guns now.   

8 hours ago, capt14k said:

That fact that no one has been bayoneted on American Soil since the Civil War doesn't matter. 

 

This right here just killed me. I don't know why i found it so funny/sad..

8 hours ago, Sniper22 said:

I see your 25 and raise to 50.

 

There's a possibility they'll also try for a ban on ALL semi-autos. I don't doubt that they'll try.

In the end, they want us all back with muskets.

Dude, they don't even want us to have sling shots.

On 10/7/2018 at 10:08 PM, Mossy500 said:

http://www.magazineblocks.com/magento/glock-19-magblock-10-15-9mm.html

Wanted to find out if anybody else has tried this product? I bought one, and I could only load 9 after blocking a 15-rd mag.

Get the universal ones and cut them.  It is a simple process.

On 10/15/2018 at 8:58 PM, Sniper22 said:

On duty or off duty?

Go one step further, check theirs to make sure they are only 15s, and not 17s or 19s.

 

this I like as any citizen can do this

the on duty/off duty thing i think is a game. i've been told(and one of our resident leo's can correct me if i'm wrong) that most depts officers are never truly off duty.

the on duty/off duty thing i think is a game. i've been told(and one of our resident leo's can correct me if i'm wrong) that most depts officers are never truly off duty.

How is that? Municipal cops in other towns shouldn't be on duty.

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i'm just sayin' what a couple different leo's have told me. i dunno the legality or truth of it or not. wondering if one of our resident leo's can chime in on it for clarification

 

In NJ a cop is a cop 24/7 on duty or off. 

https://www.quora.com/If-a-police-officer-is-off-duty-do-they-have-the-authority-to-make-arrests-Or-do-they-need-to-call-in-a-witnessed-crime

Even off-duty, one is required to act upon a crime being commit, render first aid, etc. So yes, one is never "off-duty".

34 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said:

i'm just sayin' what a couple different leo's have told me. i dunno the legality or truth of it or not. wondering if one of our resident leo's can chime in on it for clarification

 

NJS 40A:14-152.1 gives all NJ police officers police powers throughout the state.  So yes they are police 24/7/365.

Most federal leos have police powers in most state crimes in NJ.  What police powers states grant federal leos is really immaterial.  Federal leos at times make arrests that the US Attorney's Office decline prosecution.  These cases are usually prosecuted under state law.  Never saw any problems with this.

BTW, I know of police officers who didn't take "appropriate action" when a crime was committed in their presence that got in trouble because they didn't do something.