Oh, for fucks sake...

https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/new-jersey/2018/10/29/synagogue-shooting-prompts-phil-murphy-call-new-nj-gun-laws/1810350002/

Gov. Phil Murphy on Monday endorsed new restrictions on gun and ammunition sales in New Jersey and a renewed push for "smart guns" that can be fired only by their registered owners.

 

And this would have prevented that tragedy how???

He wants ammo sales reported to the state police? GTFO.... 

VOTE DAMN IT!  Get more republicans in our state house!  He can’t pass these feel good laws if he doesn’t have the votes. 

"You never want to let a good crisis go to waste."

Rahm Emanuel

Stock up. 

Oh, for fucks sake...
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/new-jersey/2018/10/29/synagogue-shooting-prompts-phil-murphy-call-new-nj-gun-laws/1810350002/

Gov. Phil Murphy on Monday endorsed new restrictions on gun and ammunition sales in New Jersey and a renewed push for "smart guns" that can be fired only by their registered owners.

 

This guy sucks. What has happened in NJ to call for this. We already have tough gun laws here. Now they are getting ridiculous


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If you own firearms and don't vote R. You might as well sell all your guns. Have to get all the fudds out to vote too!

1 minute ago, elongobardi said:

 

 

This guy sucks. What has happened in NJ to call for this. We already have tough gun laws here. Now they are getting ridiculous


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Because crime is not zero and guns are a convenient scapegoat. Avoids having to look at the real problems in NJ that don’t have easy answers. Like poverty and lack of opportunities in the big cities, gangs, etc. 

Same shit, different day.

We still all need to do the same as before:

#1 - Vote against the anti-gunners.

#2 - Introduce as many people to the world of firearms.

#3 - Get them invested enough in the cause that they vote, too.

This goes for any state. Complacency is what slowly turns places like Florida from safe-havens of freedom to overly-taxed, overly-regulated, anti-gun cesspools. And we’re watching it happen unfortunately.

you mean more shit we'll just ignore?

1 hour ago, voyager9 said:

renewed push for "smart guns" that can be fired only by their registered owners

Besides the other issues.

If this went through could put a damper on RTSP 2nd outing

Does anyone else think governor teef is kinda feckless ?

He is going to do this over and over again so long as he is our Governor.

The last batch of laws passed wasn't just to get it over and done with, it was just the first round of many to come.

...." "We must ensure that those intent on acting on hate through violence do not have access to guns," Murphy said at a news conference in Trenton. "No matter how strong our laws are, we must act to close loopholes."

This guy is a fucking asshat. Criminals, by definition, don't follow ANY laws. He can pass as many unconstitutional laws he wants. They will be a ZERO deterrent to any criminal, just like every other current law on the books.

How fucked in the head are these Democrats that they don't realize that yet? Can we send fuckface Murphy to Chicago for a weekend?

....." State officials said New Jersey has about 300 gun-related killings per year, most of them in Newark, Camden, Paterson, Trenton and Jersey City. "

Hey asshole, does that did you ANY clues??

 

....." Murphy urged new laws to ban anyone who is disqualified from owning a gun to purchase or sell a firearm to someone else, to require photo identification to purchase ammunition, to require ammunition retailers to report sales to the state police, and to ban the purchase of ammunition by individuals convicted of serious crimes. "

This fucking jerkoff needs to contact the Chicago PD and learn something. They found in Chicago, on average, a handgun was passed around/sold between the boys in the 'hood 6 times before being recovered by police. What exact law will he pass which will stop his buddies in Camden, Patterson, Trenton, etc. from doing that same thing.

Because crime is not zero and guns are a convenient scapegoat. Avoids having to look at the real problems in NJ that don’t have easy answers. Like poverty and lack of opportunities in the big cities, gangs, etc. 

You nailed that one. Well said


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9 minutes ago, Sniper22 said:

How fucked in the head are these Democrats that they don't realize that yet?

Is this a trick question?

Same shit, different day.
We still all need to do the same as before:
#1 - Vote against the anti-gunners.
#2 - Introduce as many people to the world of firearms.
#3 - Get them invested enough in the cause that they vote, too.
This goes for any state. Complacency is what slowly turns places like Florida from safe-havens of freedom to overly-taxed, overly-regulated, anti-gun cesspools. And we’re watching it happen unfortunately.

Summed up perfectly


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1 hour ago, BobA said:

Stock up. 

If that's what you're proposing NOW, you're already too late.

 

1 hour ago, 1563621 said:

If you own firearms and don't vote R. You might as well sell all your guns.

Sadly, just voting R doesn't really get us too far.

Did we get National CCW Reciprocity yet?

We need to throw the RINOs out too.

12 minutes ago, Sniper22 said:

Sadly, just voting R doesn't really get us too far.

Did we get National CCW Reciprocity yet?

We need to throw the RINOs out too.

I hope we can get that acted on after the election.

34 minutes ago, Sniper22 said:

....." Murphy urged new laws to ban anyone who is disqualified from owning a gun to purchase or sell a firearm to someone else, to require photo identification to purchase ammunition, to require ammunition retailers to report sales to the state police, and to ban the purchase of ammunition by individuals convicted of serious crimes. "

This fucking jerkoff needs to contact the Chicago PD and learn something. They found in Chicago, on average, a handgun was passed around/sold between the boys in the 'hood 6 times before being recovered by police. What exact law will he pass which will stop his buddies in Camden, Patterson, Trenton, etc. from doing that same thing.

Universal background checks?  

retail stores need to do more as well,   many ranges have no political information available for patrons to see.     at my local indoor range I see many 1st time shooters who haven't a clue as to the politics of guns in NJ.

 

How about we start seeing some factual info being posted in all NJ's gun stores.   

replace some pics with current NJ politicians on pic below 

32 minutes ago, Fred2 said:

I hope we can get that acted on after the election.

Isn't that what we said after the LAST election?

 

1 hour ago, kman said:

He is going to do this over and over again so long as he is our Governor.

The last batch of laws passed wasn't just to get it over and done with, it was just the first round of many to come.

Yep, version 2.0 on deck....

...."The governor said gun violence is not something that can be eliminated through “a single magic law” but requires constant attention to close any loopholes that are exposed.

He’s calling for a comprehensive package of legislation, his “gun safety package 2.0,”

http://nj1015.com/how-murphy-plans-to-restrict-guns-and-ammo-after-pittsburgh/?fbclid=IwAR1NzkWX5SNkEYe_MQl3JNYrFBfpJM9OfhBS2j72QxXrihndvexHLnnabzc

3 hours ago, Luke_WO said:

He wants ammo sales reported to the state police? GTFO.... 

...." Another measure already in the pipeline would more closely regulate the sale of ammunition, requiring a photo ID, and “we would bar individuals disqualified from owning a gun from purchasing or ammunition, closing that loophole.”

Apparently, Gov. Asshole doesn't know in many places you need to show a FID card to purchase ammo NOW, which already shows that a person is "qualified" to purchase it. Does his A.G. advise him on the CURRENT laws on the books so he doesn't look like a complete jackass?

...." All sales of handgun ammunition would have to be reported to the State Police. "

Any of you guys that purchase online better have Christmas come early and have the truck show up. Your days are numbered.......

 

so when/how the hell do we get rid of this dick? there is no way this state will survive him for his full term. isn't there a reasonable wqay to recall him? 

4 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said:

so when/how the hell do we get rid of this dick? there is no way this state will survive him for his full term. isn't there a reasonable wqay to recall him? 

In this state.......given current electoral base, simple answer......NO WAY!

Action by SCOTUS is our ONLY hope!

2 hours ago, voyager9 said:

Because crime is not zero and guns are a convenient scapegoat. Avoids having to look at the real problems in NJ that don’t have easy answers. Like poverty and lack of opportunities in the big cities, gangs, etc. 

You're exactly right. I was personally never big on "social conservatism" - and frankly, I'm still not. That said, I've seen enough credible studies by social scientists to convince me that you cannot address the problem of violence in our cities without addressing, first and foremost, the 70+ percent out-of-wedlock birth rate among young Black women. It is a disaster for inner city communities on multiple levels. First, it creates the poverty that drives crime (that's been proven all around the globe - single-parent households have much higher poverty levels). Second, the lack of a normal "family structure" then sends kids in search of a substitute family, which too often comes in the form of a gang. Inner city communities have a deep-rooted and complicated set of problems - historic, economic, social, cultural - it's not like it's a problem with one root cause, there's probably at least a dozen causes. And some of those, unfortunately, are "hot button" issues that immediately make people shriek racism, put their fingers in their ears, and shut down the conversation (none of which, of course, actually helps those communities).