One of the less-discussed recounts going on in Florida is the one for agricultural commissioner, which is significant to us because that is the agency in charge of issuing concealed carry permits.

"The answer is that capturing the Florida agricultural commissioner’s post would be a key victory in liberal and progressive push for gun control. As the Tampa Bay Times notes, Florida is unusual in that the Florida agricultural commissioner, rather than the courts or other law enforcement, is the entity that regulates and controls things like concealed carry permits:

If it seems unusual for Florida's Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services to handle concealed weapons permits, that's because it is unusual -- nearly every other state gives the job to police or courts…

the NRA had lawmakers quietly move the Division of Licensing, which handles the concealed weapons permit program, from the Florida Department of State to the state's Department of Agriculture in 2002, so that the program was answerable to an elected official."

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/11/florida_election_frauds_hidden_guncontrol_agenda.html#ixzz5Wq4to3ps 
 

It’s a travesty what is occurring down there. It makes me ponder the validity of our States election 

Wow, crazy. 

43 minutes ago, Zeke said:

It’s a travesty what is occurring down there. It makes me ponder the validity of our States election 

Is it time yet?

 

Not in jeopardy because she doesn't decide them the AG does but she would administer them and potentially make them a pain in the ass.  I've already committed funds to a local group for the first law suit if she should try to impose her will.  It'll be worth every penny and you can't take it with you.  

50 minutes ago, Rob0115 said:

Not in jeopardy because she doesn't decide them the AG does but she would administer them and potentially make them a pain in the ass.  I've already committed funds to a local group for the first law suit if she should try to impose her will.  It'll be worth every penny and you can't take it with you.  

Isn’t she not elected yet?

1 minute ago, Zeke said:

Isn’t she not elected yet?

I don't believe she is.  In the event she wins, likely, if she should deviate from state law I will happily, have committed the funds, fund the lawsuit against her.  

 

How many missing ballots are ever republican votes?  That's normally 0 especially in Coward county.  

I had a feeling that carry permits could be affected by this.  If I don't move back to Pennsylvania soon I was considering getting one for a future trip to Florida.   The problem is that most people (non gun owners) do not understand the repercussions, much like most people not understanding that the Pennsylvania attorney general controls the commonwealth's reciprocity aggreements.

And Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro would sooner see gun owners burned at the stake than protect the Second Amendment rights of those who choose to exercise them.

16 hours ago, Zeke said:

Isn’t she not elected yet?

Well, unless they can prove the fraud that is occurring or throw out all the ballots from those 2 corrupt counties, she's ahead by 5000 after trailing by 40,000.

I'd say she's in unfortunately.

1 hour ago, njpilot said:

Well, unless they can prove the fraud that is occurring or throw out all the ballots from those 2 corrupt counties, she's ahead by 5000 after trailing by 40,000.

I'd say she's in unfortunately.

Seriously! What is going on here? 

What is going on in these two corrupt left wing counties is a disgrace and the Fed's should get involved.  In my county, St John's, they completed the recount and the most any single candidate's number of votes changed by was a whopping 8 votes.

Welp... we'll see what happens.  I have to renew my FL next year...Looks like it can be done online though.

1 hour ago, Howard said:

What is going on in these two corrupt left wing counties is a disgrace and the Fed's should get involved.  In my county, St John's, they completed the recount and the most any single candidate's number of votes changed by was a whopping 8 votes.

They also didn't find a missing bag of ballots at the last minute like Broward did.  

1 minute ago, Rob0115 said:

They also didn't find a missing bag of ballots at the last minute like Broward did.  

We could easily solve this mess if we moved election day from November to April.  You would vote on a form attached to your tax return.  If you wanted to vote early, you would send in your tax return early.  Problems solved.

They are going to a hand recount now.

8 hours ago, Howard said:

We could easily solve this mess if we moved election day from November to April.  You would vote on a form attached to your tax return.  If you wanted to vote early, you would send in your tax return early.  Problems solved.

Brilliant!

Well, DeSantis race called, DeSantis is governor. The socialist picked up 1 vote in the recount.

The Broward county machine vote was done on time, but the dopes couldn't figure out how to send the info to the state through the website, so it was 2 min late and not accepted. Scott actually went up 700+ votes, but now the original count is what counts since it was sent late. Some are saying they deliberately sent it late so the higher count for Scott wouldn't be official. Now they go to a hand count.

A judge, whose wife donated to Nelson ruled it unconstitutional to throw out ballots with signatures that didn't match. Also heard a judge said they couldn't throw out ballots with no birthdate sorry wrong birthdates. 

Cant make this shit up. They should just throw out all of the votes from both counties. If the residents don't like it, too bad, you voted these corrupt asshats in over and over.

12 hours ago, Krdshrk said:

Welp... we'll see what happens.  I have to renew my FL next year...Looks like it can be done online though.

No ypu need to be printrd again

I am doing my renewal now

Scott will win. There were a lot of numbnut muh bumpstock dolts who didn’t vote for him. I tried to explain what happens when you become apathetic in elections.   

Sad fact is, if the races are this close in Florida that a recount is even in the picture, Florida is already gone.

Tennessee and texas are the only states left that are holding fast. 

8 hours ago, Golf battery said:

Tennessee and texas are the only states left that are holding fast. 

Not Texas look at the numbers there.  

10 hours ago, USRifle30Cal said:

No ypu need to be printrd again

I am doing my renewal now

True.  I just renewed mine a couple of weeks ago.  Should be good for at least the next 7 years, but who knows what's going to happen.  

9 hours ago, Handyman said:

Sad fact is, if the races are this close in Florida that a recount is even in the picture, Florida is already gone.

I've thought the same thing.  My wife and I were looking to get a place there, but we're rethinking it following this election.

Maybe South Carolina?  That's still looking solidly red.  

28 minutes ago, Old Glock guy said:

True.  I just renewed mine a couple of weeks ago.  Should be good for at least the next 7 years, but who knows what's going to happen.  

I've thought the same thing.  My wife and I were looking to get a place there, but we're rethinking it following this election.

Maybe South Carolina?  That's still looking solidly red.  

Need to be printed again?  Dang.  IDK why those things don't change...

6 hours ago, Old Glock guy said:

 

Maybe South Carolina?  That's still looking solidly red.  

@Old School

Thoughts?

19 hours ago, Golf battery said:

Tennessee and texas are the only states left that are holding fast. 

Wyoming and Utah are pretty damn red.

20 hours ago, Handyman said:

Sad fact is, if the races are this close in Florida that a recount is even in the picture, Florida is already gone.

The governors race and the race for a republican to overturn a long standing Democrat who had the seat.  The governors race was no closer than Scott’s previous two wins.  Technically I’m not sure why there was a recount because there is nothing written about the .5% margin other than for federal offices.  I’m guessing it was over the ballots “found” in two blue counties. Nonetheless it didn’t ding the margin.  Scott overturning Nelson is a net gain in republican hold.  For state wide elections the cities full of blue can overwhelm the red.  On a district level there is still strong red support.   The legislature is still super majority republican.  DeSantis is way more conservative than Scott so I’m surprised he actually won. Folllowing the polls would have said otherwise.  Look at his add building the wall with his daughter.  

 

4 hours ago, USRifle30Cal said:

@Old School

Thoughts?

Pretty solid red yet.  Lost a few house seats. Red senators and going to stay that way.  State legislature is mixed with a red majority. Executive legislature is red.

Pretty safe for now.

On 11/14/2018 at 3:46 PM, Rob0115 said:

I don't believe she is.  In the event she wins, likely, if she should deviate from state law I will happily, have committed the funds, fund the lawsuit against her.  

 

How many missing ballots are ever republican votes?  That's normally 0 especially in Coward county.  

It really amazes me how Florida can have these problems.  Things must vary significantly by county.  In St John's County, just south of Jacksonville you have to submit your driver's licence which they scan and verify before they even print your ballot.  Then it goes into a machine that scans it, and you are done.  No sure what a machine recount would even do as if it got scanned one way the first time it best get scanned the same way a second time.  Sounds like those two southern counties must be playing some games.  But rest assured the Dems constantly tell us there is no such thing as election fraud - arg.