50 minutes ago, Kevin125 said:

Using that same logic...  few die of covid-19.

They die of....

Cancer, COPD, asthma, diabetes, heart disease.

Correct?

Look at the NYC numbers:

...."Only 8% of the cases of coronavirus in New York City are from people above 75, according to the city’s health department. However, 52% of the city’s 199 total deaths were people older than 75.

95% of the deaths were people who had underlying conditions.

In New York state, where there are now more confirmed coronavirus cases than in France or South Korea, nearly 54% of hospitalized coronavirus patients were between 18 and 49, Gov. Andrew Cuomo, a Democrat, said.

Another piece of the puzzle: In the U.S., 18.5% (13.7 million) people between the ages of two and 19 are obese according to the CDC. That figure rises to 42.7% for all adults. When an obese person has difficulty breathing, their lungs won’t expand as much as a healthy person’s lungs, Poland said.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/by-far-the-worst-virus-i-have-ever-endured-olympic-gold-medalist-cameron-van-der-burgh-31-on-contracting-the-coronavirus-2020-03-24?mod=home-page

so here's my questions. 

how is this more contagious than previous outbreaks. considering it can be transmitted through breath, cough/sneeze, touch, surfaces? the h1nh is transmitted the same way, is it not? are most virus's not transmitted the same way?

 

 i see many(not here unless i missed it) comparing trump admin response to 44 admin response for the h1n1. does anyone know that the outbreak in 09 was the second outbreak of that? so they had a clue. yet.......they dorked it.

 

 anyway, i'm just trying to figure out how this is anything more than a government created crisis.

10 hours ago, PeteF said:

You mean like the guy that died from corona,  because he had 2 heart attacks while being treated?  

Or the 85 yo with emphasyma .  Yep another corona death.

This 48 year old nurse died from CV.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/25/worker-at-nyc-hospital-where-nurses-wear-trash-bags-as-protection-dies-from-coronavirus/

Probably got a big fat dose of it from a patient.  Not obese, no idea if he had other issues.

I guess time will tell if the mortality rate is flat or the same.   Seems NY has a bit of a crisis brewing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the entire country has a crisis brewing. i still truly think it is govt created. not the virus. the crisis.

3 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said:

the entire country has a crisis brewing. i still truly think it is govt created. not the virus. the crisis.

 

Didn't you hear?  Uncle Fed will be dropping money from Helicopters soon.  We're all saved.  Just think of the bonuses our corporate leaders are going to get.  Isn't that so great for them?  I mean, they will surely push the federal bounty out to all the needy.  Heck they are probably loading their Luxury SUVs right now to go feed the hungry.   The yacht business will be booming in no time!  Oh happy days!

Hey, what all guns you gonna buy with your $1,200 check?

like i said...crisis brewing.

 

12 minutes ago, WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot said:

Hey, what all guns you gonna buy with your $1,200 check?

I don't qualify.

doubtful i qualify.

12 minutes ago, WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot said:

Hey, what all guns you gonna buy with your $1,200 check?

I don't qualify but my wife does, so maybe I'll get something for both of us.

 

 

 

20 minutes ago, WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot said:

Hey, what all guns you gonna buy with your $1,200 check?

Toilet paper......

An official  Red Ryder carbine action 200 shot range model air rifle with a compass stock

24 minutes ago, Scorpio64 said:

An official  Red Ryder carbine action 200 shot range model air rifle with a compass stock

Are you crazy? You'll shoot your eye out.

1 hour ago, Malsua said:

This 48 year old nurse died from CV.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/25/worker-at-nyc-hospital-where-nurses-wear-trash-bags-as-protection-dies-from-coronavirus/

Probably got a big fat dose of it from a patient.  Not obese, no idea if he had other issues.

I guess time will tell if the mortality rate is flat or the same.   Seems NY has a bit of a crisis brewing.

In that article, a relative of the young man said he was generally healthy but suffered from "severe asthma"... which, of course, would be a real risk factor with COVID-19. The article also mentioned that the hospital has had equipment shortages for the past year, so if if was poorly run during normal times, it's of no surprise they ran into issues now..

Neither of those facts, of course, will dull the grief of this man's family and friends... and I understand that. It's a terrible loss! But, those facts do provide a fuller picture of what happened.

1 hour ago, CMJeepster said:

I don't qualify.

You only qualify to pay for everyone elses.

54 minutes ago, Scorpio64 said:

An official  Red Ryder carbine action 200 shot range model air rifle with a compass stock

Hope that is NJ Legal and you have the necessary FID and permits.

1 hour ago, WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot said:

Hope that is NJ Legal and you have the necessary FID and permits.

Yanno...  You are right.  I think I'll put it towards a thermal optic instead.  Less paperwork.

18 minutes ago, PeteF said:

You only qualify to pay for everyone elses.

That's been the story of my life...

36 minutes ago, PeteF said:

You only qualify to pay for everyone elses.

There you go. Facts!!

I don't qualify either.

Go figure, the people who DON'T qualify are actually the same people that pay the majority of the federal taxes in the country, while the people who will get a windfall in these checks, pay nothing.

Isn't Socialism wonderful?

1 hour ago, Scorpio64 said:

An official  Red Ryder carbine action 200 shot range model air rifle with a compass stock

You can't.  NJ isn't processing NICS requests, and the idiots in Trenton believe that rifle is indistinguishable from a Barrett .50.

19 minutes ago, CMJeepster said:

That's been the story of my life...

Me too...

1 hour ago, Mrs. Peel said:

In that article, a relative of the young man said he was generally healthy but suffered from "severe asthma"... which, of course, would be a real risk factor with COVID-19.

Notice how they bury that fact way down in the article, hoping people will miss it, and they rather build on the sensationalism and emotions of the readers instead.

I read a report yesterday that like 98% of the people who have died in NYC had pre-existing conditions, proving again, the healthy people AREN'T dying from it!!

OPEN THE COUNTRY BACK UP NOW!!!!!!!!!!

Anyway

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMM   

Quote

Epidemiologist Behind Highly-Cited Coronavirus Model Admits He Was Wrong, Drastically Revises Model 

https://www.dailywire.com/news/epidemiologist-behind-highly-cited-coronavirus-model-admits-he-was-wrong-drastically-revises-model

7 minutes ago, WP22 said:

Anyway

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMM 

Wow. Just wow! Is there still time to stop that stimulus package --- particularly all of it's pork? If it turns out that estimates of this pandemic get DRASTICALLY reduced... the press is going to be even less popular than it already is.  Deservedly so! They clung to the worst predictions and ignored the growing field of objectors.

1 hour ago, Scorpio64 said:

Yanno...  You are right.  I think I'll put it towards a thermal optic instead.  Less paperwork.

i like this idea. i've been getting sponsored ads on farcebook for the atn thermals.....

9 minutes ago, Mrs. Peel said:

If it turns out that estimates of this pandemic get DRASTICALLY reduced... the press is going to be even less popular than it already is. 

It won't turn out, it actually is reduced, the facts will prove it out. From that article:

..."Professor Gupta led a team of researchers at Oxford in a modeling study which suggests that the virus has been invisibly spreading for at least a month earlier than suspected, concluding that as many as half of the people in the United Kingdom have already been infected by COVID-19.

If her model is accurate, fewer than one in a thousand who’ve been infected with COVID-19 become sick enough to need hospitalization, leaving the vast majority with mild cases or free of symptoms.

What we will see, when the dust settles, is that Covid was no worse than the seasonal flu. And the flu actually has a vaccine and tens of thousands still die.

There have been tens of thousands that got Covid, and never knew it. I'll go back and reference the Diamond Princess, which was a good clinical trial. HALF of the people who tested positive had NO symptoms, and only 20% actually caught it on the ship, even when being in the close confines of a cruise ship.

There's going to be a LOT of pissed off business people and others who got fired, that realize they got shut down because of the flu..

Diamond Princess data.

26 minutes ago, 1LtCAP said:

i like this idea. i've been getting sponsored ads on farcebook for the atn thermals.....

Wait for there clip on to come out

2 hours ago, Mrs. Peel said:

the press is going to be even less popular than it already is.  Deservedly so!

My wife is a medical technologist, she's beside herself with all of the misinformation/bad information being propagated by the media.  And she's a freak'n liberal....  well, liberalish, I've substantially turned her around in the last 3 years.

5 hours ago, Malsua said:

This 48 year old nurse died from CV.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/25/worker-at-nyc-hospital-where-nurses-wear-trash-bags-as-protection-dies-from-coronavirus/

Probably got a big fat dose of it from a patient.  Not obese, no idea if he had other issues.

I guess time will tell if the mortality rate is flat or the same.   Seems NY has a bit of a crisis brewing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He had severe asthma....thats the report....

5 hours ago, Sniper said:

There you go. Facts!!

I don't qualify either.

Go figure, the people who DON'T qualify are actually the same people that pay the majority of the federal taxes in the country, while the people who will get a windfall in these checks, pay nothing.

Isn't Socialism wonderful?

Funny (no not really) how those that lose the most get the least back.