CJack

A Drunk, Ho and an Idiot walks into DC......

It doesn't matter (to them) that all these challenges end up in courts. Its well established that anti-2A NJ, NY etc DO NOT CARE. There are no real consequences to keep pushing ridiculous laws. They just have to keep making them faster than courts (which NJ is notorious for dragging their feet and siding with liberals) are willing to handle.

I hope Federal Govt stays out of any sort of reciprocity law. Nothing coming out of Congress will be good for People out there.

Submitted my application today at local PD. They were very accommodating. I showed up at the scheduled time. Same requirements as listed in NJSP site. The officer made copies of the passport, DL, firearm ownership (P2P). On to scheduling fingerprinting. PD gave me a "Contributor Case #" that has no name etc, just numbers. The officer said its their own internal tracking # and its better that way. Application Date: Jul 7th, 2022 Location: Local PD Requirements: As noted in NJSP standard application Quals Included: HCQ-1 and Use Of Force (RealoaderZNJ Range) Finger Printing Date: Pending

The Instructor signing the qual paper supposedly have some discretion as to signing off on "similar" firearms using one qual shooting. Spirit of the requirement is to ensure the applicant is familiar and competent with the firearm they are carrying. Are all striker fired pistols are same ? Up to the Instructor.

On the topic, its VERY important for People in free states to buy, buy, buy every type of firearm out there and buy them frequently.. SCOTUS is focusing on "Commonly Used" and NJ is trying to take advantage of it by banning 50 cal and hoping SCOTUS will say things like that are not "common"

We have to fund lawsuits like there is no tomorrow.. time to bring them and bring them bigly.

Appreciate if we can reserve this thread for folks sharing their experience with application process, submission and tracking.

Totally agree on infringement and we have gazillion lawsuits to file (unfortunately) to get NJ anywhere near to the freedoms other states offer in this space. NJSP "waiting for directive" is yet another BS delaying tactics. They have been doing RPO apps for years. The admin code and requirements are pretty clear in that aspect. The least they could do is to move their a** on the apps that include RPO or higher Quals at the least. But ofcourse they are going to "wait" and sit on this as long as they can. Not only we have to deal with the NJ Politicians, we also have to deal with Bureaucracy that is rampantly anti-2A.

Looking for this ? https://nj.gov/njsp/firearms/shooting-ranges.shtml

I guess they are waiting to see if your application lays baby carry apps and grows wings. Lol.

Holster, kneel, strong hand, support hand etc.. as per NJ In-Service HQC-1 qualification guidelines.. they even printed it out and gave copy to everyone. They also have them posted at the booths .

They did the standard HQC-1, starting at 25 yards, holster.. 60 rounds. Passing score is 48.

I got my HQC-1 quals done at ReloaderzNJ. Waiting for an appointment from local PD to handover the paperwork.

I did HQC-1 quals with ReloaderzNJ. Really nice, clean and professional place. They were super nice, detailed in instructions and even did notary onsite. Full HQC-1 by the book. Starting at 25 yards and down to 1 yard. 60 rounds. Pass score is 48 (80%). Holster, support hand shooting, strong hand shooting, kneeling .. the whole nine yards.

Dont forget the senseless murders prevented or solved by : * Demanding that Criminals be trained before they are issued a FPID * Magical stamp with expiration date on FPID (only applies to new criminals. OGs have FPIDs that do not expire) * CSI Fairy godmother who can instantaneously tell who committed the murder from micro-stamping. etc.

I see GFH calendar has been pretty full with all day quals. I wonder how many apps are flooding in.

Anybody's (educated) guess at this time. I posted link to NJ Criminal Justice pdf somewhere here, but among other varieties, there are HQC-1, HQC-2 and RPO qual tests that are clearly outlines as to what it entails. Some ranges are of opinion that RPO quals are enough. Some are doing FBI HQC (apparently new one is 50 rounds). Others are of opinion that its better to do full on HQC including holster. I did HQC-1 (using holster) and use of force familiarity thing. Will see how it stands up through the app process.

Is there a training requirement ? The admin code has "OR" in it, meaning any ONE of those 3 requirements. N.J. Admin. Code § 13:54-2.4 - Application for a permit to carry a handgun

Presumably the old type cards are NOT going to be available any more and all new cards will have issue and expiration date. And knowing NJ, if you change address, you will get new card with expiration date. But its anyone guess as of now.

Square brackets are whats is removed in-relation to prior proposal/bill. So in summary, existing FPIDs do not have expiration date.

There are THREE (3) different things you need: 1. Service Code (posted above) . This one lets identogo know its for "firearms application" 2. ORI Number (this is the NJ agency number). Your NJSP contact should give that to you to enter 3. Contributing Case Number. There are suggestions out there about what to put in there. But your processing agency (NJSP) should direct you as thats how they supposedly finds / tracks YOUR fingerprinting.

Should a surgeon operate on himself ?

Apply with passport size as NJSP instructions say.

1. I personally believe the ranges are doing their best to provide a service to the market, with enough disclaimers. I also believe ranges are doing their own things close to the way they did their NJ RPO quals. 2. In their true spirit, NJ will throw roadblocks and sh*t at applicants. Qual standards will be least of our problems. Apply now or apply later doesnt make much difference in that aspect. They will throw sh*t regardless. 3. The application process as of now is as clear as any other time now or in future. Individuals can make decisions as to apply now or wait. 4. Link to NJ Division Of Criminal Justice Semi-Annual Firearms Qual. Starting page 9-74, there are summary of different quals. HQC-1/2 at 60/50 rounds respectively involving 25 yards. There is also a RPO qual with 40 rounds with max 15 yards. Hence different ranges picking different quals. https://nj.gov/lps/dcj/pdfs/dcj-firearms.pdf