CJack

Because as much as they all say they support Constitution, 2A blah blah blabh, they actually dont. Everyone up and down the policy, law, and justice system are losing their sh*t about the prospect of People actually carrying. This is not specific to NJ. Take Texas for example, they pull some sh8t for being so "republican" and "constitutional". Fng Vermont had Constitutional carry long before any of those idiots who claim they are all about Constitution. Coming back to NJ, you should read comments in some of the 2A groups. It starts off as why everyone should train, then goes into how everyone should get medical training and then degenerates into how some dude who couldn't shoot well passed quals, they dont deserve PTC and how irresponsible and dangerous People are for not taking some training this or training that. If regular internet dic*s starts to call for some type of class system, imagine Law Enforcement, Judges and Politicians. Ofcourse they want to double, triple check, drag their feet.

They are going to eat crow

3rd Appeals just remanded this back down to district. Sooooon we can have the normal mags. US 3rd Order.pdf

Everytime someone says "I know guys in high places, I used to.., I have to kill you if I tell you where I worked.. blah blah blah ...", I turn around and run in other direction. Fng sc&mbags taking advantage of people.

"We got our a** kicked by SCOTUS and we are sending this a** kicking down to district court so they can swallow pride and rule the mag ban unconstitutional". I am not a lawyer, but looks like its now District Court who need to rule mag ban as unconstitutional - i.e People get back to "normal" capacity mags like rest of the USA.

UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE THIRD CIRCUIT 19-3142 Association New Jersey Rifle, et al v. Attorney General New Jersey, et al 3-18-cv-10507 O R D E R The mandate issued on 12/3/20 is hereby recalled in light of the U.S. Supreme Court's decision vacating the judgment of this Court with costs and remanding the matter for further proceedings. For the Court, s/ Patricia S. Dodszuweit Dated : 8/1/22 Cc: All counsel of record US 3rd Order.pdf

Awesome news. Tells us atleast they are pushing through the process. Approx when did your PD send the application to Superior Court ? Trying to see how long of a time delay between PD sending and Court schedule email.

When the NJSP instructions first came out, they did NOT have "passport" - only birth cert or naturalization cert. NJSP has since updated their instructions to include Passport. GFH still has old instructions. You are good to go with passport and DL.

Thanks for the PDF. New stuff is clear as mud. Leave it to NJ system (and local PDs) now to start spreading fudd about how the uppers need serial numbers blah blah blah sh*t.

Thanks. Let me know if you find out the make / model. Amazon has so many options .. lol and I want something other people here may have used or likes.

Exactly. Looking at the FB groups and talking to folks in town, I am disappointed that too many are sitting on the sidelines and taking "wait-and-see" approach.

No duty to inform. And no license plate or DL are NOT tied to NJ PTC as of now. If the line of questioning is around getting harassed for having NJ PTC, one should not worry about it for now. Since I started to drive, I was never asked to step out of the car at any traffic incident. Should that happen or other circumstances put me in situation where the firearm may be exposed, or show up or be searched, I am inclined to inform the cops ahead of time. In summary, I hope to use common sense in informing the cops about my carry.

Realistically we are atleast looking at 60 days (local PD) + 14 days (prosecutor) + 30 days (court) + whatever temper tantrums along the way = 3.5 months at the least. Some of us applied around Jul first week - so we are looking at mid to late October if they play just enough shenanigans.

Anyone can recommend a car window breaker and seatbelt cutter.. looking for one to keep in the car.

Jersey also no restrictions on open carry of long guns (unloaded ofcourse, nj style). Did you ever see anyone do it ? Or even show up as club / protest together ? nope.

^^^ This. Call your Superior Court main line and tell them you are inquiring about your Handgun Carry Permit Application. They will either give you info and/or forward the call.

From the interwebs, so far looks like Hudson, Ocean and Passaic are decent in sending the applications to courts. 23 approvals a month into SCOTUS ruling is an indication of a perilous system NJ setup.

I posted a NJ Courts directive above. It clearly lays out the timelimits for the prosecutors office (for any objections) but also lays out 30 days for the court. You may choose to print that pdf, highlight section 2 and 3, send it in a registered mail to the court along with your information and request that your permit be processed within the timeline mentioned in the directive. They may ignore that directive, but atleast you have done your part of putting them on notice. You may also want to send a copy of that same letter to Glenn A. Grant, administrative director of the courts. https://www.njcourts.gov/pressrel/2022/pr061622b.pdf?c=JGu

NJ has given Courts lot of discretion in this manner. Until such a point where either Courts remove themselves out of this process, law changes or lawsuits succeed, its best to qualify with the handguns you want to carry.

Call your County Superior Court main number and tell them you are trying to find out status of your Handgun Carry Permit. They shuld be able to tell you which specific Judge handles those. Typically its Criminal or Law Division.

did you already apply for the carry permit in Bergen County ? And where is that at ? On your question, I am told that process may vary from County to County as it is the Judge that is putting those "restrictions" on the actual carry permit. I have read about a direct account (probably here or on FB) of a carry permit holder reaching out to County Court to submit the additional quals and getting them them added to the permit.

Yeah, they are pulling all sorts of silly sh*t. One of the guys involved in lawsuits (Chessman ? JFactor? ) claimed they dug up his "unapaid dog license fee" issue and made him pay before denying the application ..Lol. Bergen County Prosecutors Office sent a letter emphasizing "a thorough investigation in lieu of removed justifiable need" multiple times. I wonder if they apply same level of scrutiny to Govt employees with gunz.

Pretty sure his office is very well aware of this document. However, there is often discrepancy between what official documents say and how business is conducted in practice. So may be Nappan office is advising based on their experience on the ground.

Anyone interested in timelines in Court should read this attachment. Lot of good stuff in this NJ Court Directive, including directive NOT to faround with delays at prosecutors office. Or search for DIRECTIVE #06-19 n190521f.pdf

I am getting close to 20 days since submission and my app is nowhere near getting to the court.. Bergen County sucks balls.