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GRIZ

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  1. There surely are prosecutors that would want to chargd you. However, prosecutors make their names on their conviction rate. One of the side effects in plea bargaining is the prosecutor gets a conviction even if it may be for a lesser offense. The last thing the liberal take guns away from all the common folk prosecutor wants is a case on possession of hollowpoints by a retired LEO thrown out on the basis it is contradicting Federal law. Such a prosecutor does not want a precedent set that is contrary to what they believe. Mere involvement in a shooting is not a green light for a prosecutor to pursue criminal charges. If the shooting is obviously a good shoot a prosecutor would be stupid to pursue a prosecution. If there are some questions about the shooting a prosecutor might let their politics get involved in charging the person.
  2. I have never seen anyone involved in a good shoot charged with a no discharge law. Most laws like that have exceptions. A prosecutor would look like a jackass charging someone involved in a good SD shooting. I wouldn't worry about it.
  3. I once heard someone say this after hearing the remark made that shooters are nice people, "I've seen fights and arguments at baseball, hockey, football, and soccer games, NASCAR, and just about every kind of competitiion. I've never seen a fight or argument at a shooting competition".
  4. GRIZ replied to RobertJames's topic in Handguns
    Actually all Glocks except the 36 are double stack.
  5. I said Lyman gives you data for bullets from all manufacturers not all bullets from all manufacturers. You're having a bit of a comprehension problem as others apparently didn't have an issue with my syntax and semantics. I don't have a "special" Lyman. If you look on the first page a caliber is listed you will see "jacketed bullets used" in any Lyman. There is listed a variety of bullet weights from several different manufacturers. If you know how you can use the data for a 55gr Sierra to load a 55gr Speer. If you want to buy a dozen reloading manuals knock yourself out. Most people don't need that many and get by with a few. AFAIC Lyman is about the best out there. You will find this opinion is shared by many. Probability would have it that I have learned at least as much about reloading as you have. This is most likely due to the fact I have been reloading for nearly nine years before you were born. That is unless you are some type of ballistics engineer that works for the military or an ammunition company. This must be encoded.
  6. AThis doesn't surprise me. Most of the states having magazine limits say 10 rds. Even MD, IIRC, allows 20 rd mags. That has just about no effect on pistols and there are plenty of 20 rd AR mags around. A manufacturer needs to make 10 rd mags so their gun can be sold in NY, HI, etc. Its a pita to make 15 rd for only one state. That one state happening to be NJ. A "low capacity" magazine manufacturer probably doesn't want to be bothered making 15 rounders for only one state.
  7. I beg to differ. Lyman is probably probably the most comprehensive manual out there. They give you data on bullets from all manufacturers. You'll find data on WW, Remington, Sierra, and Hornaday bullets you're not going to find in a Speer manual. I been reloading close to 40 years and for the past ten have only bought the Lyman manual.
  8. You're not going to get that 10/22 to really look like a M1 unless you totally redesign the receiver (open vs closed top) and have a magazine protuding from the bottom. If you add evil features from NJ's "substantially identical" list you can make it illegal for sure. Don't do what most people do and mix the list in the law with the substantially identical as listed in the law. Its either on the list or substantially identical is what makes it illegal. It doesn't have to be both. This is why that NJ neutered DPMS A15 is legal and an AR15 is not. The M1 is also the only firearm listted in the law as "M1 carbine type". "Type" is a pretty broad brush. If the law were written "AR15 type" that DPMS would also be illegal. The purpose of the substantially identical was so new guns wouldn't have to be added to the list. ARs get the most slack as far as the law goes as you'd be hard pressed to argue why you need a folding stock, flash surpressor, or bayonet stud for Service Rifle competition.
  9. "Substantially identical" is much more a deciding factor in determining the legality of firearms like the M1 carbine in NJ. I am saying substantially identical in the context of looking similar not how the NJ AW law uses it. The M1 carbine is listed in the law as "M1 carbine type". The law further states the Plainfield and Universal M1s as being illegal. This means that anything that looks like a M1 carbine is illegal. It makes no difference if there is commonality of any parts or what caliber it is. If it looks like a M1 carbine that would make it a M1 carbine type and it would be illegal in NJ. What you call the weapon really is of no consequence. If I manufactured a semi-auto that looked like say a SKS in 30 carbine and came with only 10 rd magazines and called it the Griz M1 I think i'd get away with selling it in NJ.
  10. Remington did make a model of the Nylon 66 in 22 short only. It was made for shooting galleries but was also sold to the general public.
  11. I agree with some of what is said here. First, you have a duty to retreat from a confrontation where you are threatened with what would be considered to be non-deadly force in NJ. Joe Crook, who is unarmed being of roughly equal size and ability as you threatens to kick your a** is a situation you have to retreat from. You have no duty to retreat from a situation where you are threatened with deadly force. Joe Crook and his three henchmen threaten to kick your a** (they may or may not be armed) would normally be considered a situation where you are threatened with death or severe injury, you do not have to retreat. It is almost always the smart thing to retreat from a deadly force situation if you can do so safely. This is a difference between LEOs and others. If someone else is threatened with deadly force and Mr Citizen happens on the scene, Mr Citizen has no obligation to defend someone else. A LEO does have an obligation. So, if you are confronted with threat of serious harm or death and you have no means of escape (not because you have to but because it is the smart thing to do), defending yourself with the knife you have long established a legal purpose for carrying would seem reasonable. This would be the same as arming yourself with any weapon of opportunity. If you couldn't use a firearm to defend yourself (if one were available) you can't use your knife. If you do use your knife to defend yourself you need to treat the situation the same as if you used a firearm. This is where my opinion on talking to the police differs from what you hear from most people on gun forums. When the police arrive and ask you what happened and you respond with "I don't want to say. anything. I want my lawyer", you leave the police little option but to arrest you and charge you. IF YOU ARE CLAIMING SELF DEFENSE YOU MUST AT SOME POINT ADMIT THAT YOU INJURED OR KILLED THE BAD GUY. This can be done at any time in the process from when it occurred to just before the jury goes into deliberation if you wind up going to trial. The earlier you start to establish your claim of self defense the better (and less expensive) it will be for you. When the police arrive you tell them "I had to defend myself. I really don't want to talk now. I need to go to the hospital and get checked out". If the police ask for more respond that you really think you need to be checked out at the hospital. Later on you tell the police the whole story with your lawyer present. You've started to establish you did what you did in self defense and you should be medically checked out even if you don't seem to have any apparent injuries. If you can't limit your response to the police to what I've said you're probably better off saying nothing, getting arrested, and going through some of the criminal justice system. Masaad Ayoob gives similar advice. Research his articles and you'll find it. He's an established expert witness in most states. Neither of us are lawyers and Ayoob has given expert testimon many more times than I.
  12. Using a knife for SD is not illegal as long as you are using it to defend yourself against deadly force being used against you. The trick is to have a knife that has some explainable lawful purpose that you can use to defend yourself with. I have some lockback knives with shorter blades that are sharp enough to do some serious damage slashing. The shorter blades (2-3 inches) usually don't raise any alarms. You'd have to do a lot of slashing on exposed areas to end a fight though. I have a inexpensive Kershaw with a 4" blade that has a screwdriver (a real screwdriver not just a blade) with the bits mounted on the handle which is a unoffensive medium blue color. It really looks more like a folding screwdriver than a knife. It passed the test one time when I was going into the courthouse and had emptied my pockets and the deputy noticed the knife. He commented that it was a pretty big knife and I responded that I carried it for the screwdriver and that was the end of the conversation. It seems to me that a cane is more effective and easier to explain. I have a couple of black thorn walking sticks I bought in Ireland that give me the capabilities of a riot baton. These were originally used as weapons after the English disarmed the Irish. Cold Steel makes one out of polypropylene which seems attractive and practical.
  13. The only way this rifle could have been registered is if it were made non-operational. The only "assault weapons" that could have been registered operational were the M1A, AR15, and M1 carbine.
  14. I retired seven years ago but I can tell you there is no specific law in NJ allowing LEOs to own switchblades. I have heard this myth for some time and if there were such a law it would be included as an exemption in the weapons statutes. PK90 said they are legal already. This is correct, the criteria one must meet is lawful purpose according to the statute. If you have a switchblade mounted on a board with your other knives in your collection that would seem to be a lawful purpose. If the police find it in your back pocket when they pat you down after a bar fight I would say you're not going to convince anyone you have it for a lawful purpose. As long as you have an explainable lawful purpose dirks, daggers, blackjacks, and even a slingshot is legal in NJ. IMO if you have it in your residence and are not using it as a weapon on anyone "collection" would seem to be a lawful purpose.
  15. Last I looked the NJ AG recognizes LEOSA but says if you are a NJ resident retired LEO you still need to get a RPO permit from the state. In essence, the AG says Federal law applies to everyone except NJ residents. I don't expect a rewrite of the law regarding hollow points and retirees and I don't expect a retiree to be charged just for hollow points either. As far as the original question I really haven't paid attention to it as the largest capacity handgun I usually carry only has a 10 rd magazine.
  16. You can bolt down as has been said or you can use big c clamps.
  17. The best trained drug dogs continue to alert (usually by pawing) and continue to do so until they are rewarded. Bomb and agriculture dogs sit. If you have a dog trained for drugs, bombs, and k9 the dog will do okay in all but excel at none.
  18. I don't know what they're smoking but a 6906 is a 12 rd magazine. The 59 series was 14 or 15 rds. S&W did make a factory 20 rd mag but you don't see many around. All the mags would fit a 6906.
  19. Sideways primers, backwards primer, no primer, no primer no flash hole, wrinkled brass, shotshell without shot, bullet loaded backwards, and others are some of the faults of factory ammo I've seen. Most people fail to inspect their ammo. I usually check my carry ammo to the point of ensuring it chambers in the barrel for a semi auto and fits in the cylinder for a revolver.
  20. Not really unique when I'm talking about the fit business. Its just doing what you have to do. Best example is the military. Unless you are in special ops your handgun choice is a M9 or....a M9. You don't tell a soldier "the gun doesn't fit you. You will never shoot it well". You do what do need to do. Adapt and overcome. S&W wouldn't have sold as many of those 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation semi-autos if they were garbage. Look at the market's reaction to the Sigma. It was a cheap Glock imitation and no one bought it.
  21. All you say about "fit" is true but IMO too many people put way too much emphasis on it. I'm pushing 40 years as firearms instructor and inability to shoot a particular gun well based on "fit" is a failure of the instructor to be able to teach and of the student willing to learn. If you give me a handgun with a grip like a 2x4 and a student wanting to learn, they will shoot that gun well.I'm not saying certain guns will feel better that others. Preference is one thing and ability is another. The more different types of guns you master will make you a much better shooter with the one that "fits" you better. There is a very common scenario where the whole "fit" school of thought goes down the toilet. If you are with a large agency that mandates a certain model only what do you tell the higher ups? The selected firearm doesn't so no one will shoot well? The agency I worked for went through a period when the only authorized handguns were Glock 17s, 19s, and 26s with a optional steel J frame for backup or off duty. Thousands of agents survived this regardless of fit. This included a 4'9", 85 lb woman who was one of the best shooters in the office with any weapon. I also disagree with your assessment of S&W semi-autos. I carried 1st, 2nd, and 3rd generation models for about 15 years in the 80s and 90s. The only issues I experienced were: 1. Change recoil spring every 3000 rds or so. 2. Don't let all the crap collect in the firing pin channel when cleaning or it will lock up (as will a Glock). 3. There were some cracked frames but I'm talking a handful out of several thousand we had out there. 4. Reliability issues were usually related to poor cleaning. I have seen these guns go 1000 rds plus no cleaning no malfunctions. I never really cared for the DAO versions and I don't see a couple of rounds less in capacity a handicap. The Sigma is a pos IMO. Sure there are better guns out there now but if I were looking for a bargain SD or range gun these guns are fine. There are usually at least two sides to every story. BTW one of my personal favorites as far as fit goes is the Model 39.
  22. Follow FOPA guidelines and you will be okay.
  23. That's why I moved down here. While everyone's fighting to get here I'm already here. I just got back from Seaside. Its already full of Snooki and Situation wannabes.
  24. The Federal AWB applied to the sale of new magazines over 10 rds to non-LE or military. It had no effect on the possession or sale of magazines more than 10 rds made before the ban unless there was a state law in effect. You could still have magazines up to 15 rds in NJ if they were manufactured before the ban went into effect. You could own a 100 rd magazine in most states if it was manufactured before the ban. I fully understand the desire to own something just because you can I still see little purpose for the AR and AK pistols other than having something that fits in a specific size box. They are cumbersome and not easy to shoot well for any prolonged period of time. You have to deal with a rather brilliant muzzle blast. Add about 6" in length and a few ounces in weight and you could have a legal, even in NJ short stock carbine. The vertical foregrip looks cool but its primary purpose is to aid control in FA fire. Just my take.
  25. I didn't say that reread my response. Are you talking about a Federal or State court? Can you give me a cite?

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