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After 9/11 I remember a 60 year old orthopaedic surgeon being sworn into the Army.

63 year old NJ surgeon sworn into Navy by his daughter. I guess he figures it's never too late to give back. https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-navy/2018/07/14/ensign-commissions-her-63-year-old-father-as-a-navy-officer/

I find this interesting from the engineering viewpoint. Kind of like "look what we figured out we can do". As far as practicality I think it's a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

Thanx. That shows what ATF says but will NJ require photo, prints, retinal scan, and DNA sample in addition?

@Zeke aren't you my nephew?

That's unclear now. Does the dealer have to log it in their books? Does a dealer actually have to take possession of the firearm? Or does all the dealer need to do is run NICS? All not really answered now.

@45Doll FWIW if you want to consider a full size 9mm I'd look at the Taurus PT92 (or PT99 in adjustable sights). The safety is a bit different than the Beretta otherwise it's basically the same. Taurus had issues with their polymer frame semiautomatics but none with their metal frame guns like the PT92. I bought my PT99 in 1988 and carried it as a duty gun for about 6-7 years. It has the older safety which functioned the same as a 1911 which I also carried at the time. The only issue I had with it was the rear sight leaf broke after 5 years or so (that happens with S&W adj sight guns too). Sent it to Taurus and got it back in about 2 weeks. The only reason I stopped carrying it was my agency came out with a more restrictive list of authorized guns by name instead of specifications (which the Taurus all met). Policy also required semiautomatics to be DA and I replaced the Taurus and 1911 with a 6906 and Ruger P90. I just had the PT99 out last week with my grandson. Another plus for the Taurus PT92 is its about 2/3 the price of the Beretta.

Guess thats price if you want vintage. Brownells sells the in various gauges for about $1 a piece.

Good for you!!!

Being an FBI Agent (or any other Federal Agent) does not insulate you from being prosecuted in a state court. He probably was put on the rubber gun squad while FBI Office of Professional Responsibility (their name for internal affairs) conducted their investigation. Contrary to popular depiction on TV Feds just don't come in and "take over". Although they can and do in some cases which I will get to. What may have happened is OPR's investigation showed this to be an accident. A stupid accident? No doubt but still an accident. The FBI probably said if you get the state judge to remove his order about you carrying we will give you your gun back. The FBI plays CYA too. They could have just given him his gun back but I'm sure "agency policy" wants the judge to remove the state order first. I've known cases where federal agents got traffic tickets and even got arrested by local pds in performance of their duty. In cases like that the federal agency sends a polite letter to the court to dismiss the charges. If they refuse to do so or if the local agency was acting in an egregious manner, the US Attorney yanks the case out of a state court. The case is then brought before a Federal Magistrate and dismissed. Federal LEO'S carry guns under federal authority and the federal government is sovereign and not subject to state or local jurisdiction. Unless they want to. For example a condition of employment for a federal job might be have a valid state driver's. Doesn't have to be a particular state any will do. Another example is some states have blue lights for police cars and some have red. The Feds will conform to the state law to avoid confusion. If a Federal LEO is carrying off duty IAW the policies of their agency state law does not impact on them at all. If their agency says they can carry a MP5 off duty there is nothing the state can say.

The state judge really doesn't have any authority to tell him he can't carry as he has no jurisdiction over the federal government. The FBI can tell him he can't carry.

You never can tell what will wash ashore.

Sounds like the State of NJ has a weak argument. Why are they dangerous and unusual weapons and suited for illicit use when they are not considered so in most states? We shall see.

@Greenday @Malice4you pretty much covered everything.

Well Nephew Zeke, if there isn't any fresh water available you're pretty much screwed anyway. Desert island? Rainwater, dew off plants, and digging down for water. If that fails you have to bring an awful lot of 12 packs to keep you alive. Now I see your sense in the plastic bag to build a solar still to desalinate sea water. Now that works. I had to build one in survival school but it takes some time to get an appreciable amount of water. But you are correct as you'd be able to get some potable water. Figure you'd need at least a gallon a day in hot weather. Half a gallon if not.

To and from range you'd be legal.

Firestarter and multitool.

Canon made a fixed mirror SLR back in the 60s called the Pellix. A friend had one. Like using a Leica but through the lens viewing. You got that same smell opening a can of 35mm. The 70s, the demise of the 35mm aluminum film can. The plastic was okay but the twist on tops of the metal so much more secure. I used a lot of Tri-X in my time but eventually moved over to Ilford films. I bought a few hundred feet of Ilford XP1 really cheap when they came out with XP2. Experimented and processed it in B&W chemistry for grainless 400 speed prints. I like Efke film for the more classic look. Mamiya 645 became my usual medium format system. I still have a 2 1/4 x3 1/4 Graphic I haven't used in a while. Fairly portable and gave you some perspective and depth of field control. Roll film backs for when you needed multiple exposures, sheet film when you needed to develop each negative for a specific contrast range. Lenses sucked for color though. I also have a Mamiya press I can do almost the same with. Also like my Omega 6x7s. I still have a supply of sheet film in my freezer. I remember reading about a guy that taught photojournalism in a college somewhere. Students would be assigned to cover different events armed with a Speed Graphic and one sheet of 4x5. They were supposed to tell the story of the event in one photograph. BTW, in "Eisenstadt on Eisenstadt" he shows the frames he shot just before and just after "The Sailor Kissing the Nurse". Yes, I know she was a dental technician but that doesn't have the ring and that's not what the photo became known as. Even GenXers know that photo. I saw an original print of it on sale for $30,000 maybe 20 years ago. You can still get a copy from Wal Mart. That's how iconic that photo has become.

Doesn't say you need a deuce and a half to carry the power pack.

@Smokin .50 of you want to read the whole story on "The Sailor Kissing the Nurse" get "Eisenstadt on Eisenstadt". Eisenstadt tells the story on that and more of his famous photos.

It doesn't seem to be a "firearm" by current definitions. Doesn't discharge a pronectile. They could sell them at Wawa.

CMP was contacted by NJ AG and told sending rifles direct was illegal in state as state law said all firearms transactions had to be face to face. CMP required a copy of your NJFID card before that. In spite of the fact CMP's requirements were more stringent than NJ's (club membership, proof of firearms training, etc) didn't seem to impress NJ. When you bought a rifle from CMP in the store or by mail they never required a COE. I've bought rifles out of state from FFLS and no one ever required a COE (I know some do). I've had out of state FFLS say, "That's a NJ form. I don't have to maintain forms for NJ. Your NJFID is listed on 4473 as ID. That's all I need to be legal".

True. Photographs are memory keys for most people. They spark the pleasant emotions and feelings of the event is was taken at. Digital storage makes sense for that. A great photograph will produce the emotions and feelings the photographer wanted to convey in 95% of the people. There's that 5% you can't reach anyway. A great photograph is one you can hang on your wall, look at it everyday, and people seeing it for the first time will admire it. Photojournalism has produced many great photographs. They capture a moment telling the story in a single image. One of my favorites is "The Sailor Kissing the Nurse" by Alfred Eisenstadt. http://www.dodlive.mil/2017/09/01/the-story-behind-the-iconic-kissing-sailor-photo/ Not bad for a guy who started out as a button salesman.

This is apparently a liberal doctrine for some time. I remember after the Columbine shooting during a press conference Janet Reno announced more gun laws were needed. One reporter asked her what she thought of those who say just enforce the laws we already have. Her response was something like, "It doesn't matter if we enforce the laws. We just need more gun laws" This coming from the Attorney General of the United States.

I agree with @Mrs. Peel regarding learning bullseye shooting first. The A zone on USPSA target is about 4x11 inches. That's really big. The hit zone on a FBI Q target is enormous. All much easier to hot than a 2 or 3" bullseye. You need to shoot a group on a bullseye target first. Shots plastered all over a silhouette might be a good score but lousy accuracy. You worry about accuracy first and speed comes later. Once again, the amount of lead you send down range has nothing to do with your skill level. As I related above, 3 people, 3 hrs, maybe 300 rds and we got a lot done.