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Not making Macolm X a saint. Just saying he wasn't all bad. Yes the Black Panthers adopted many policies of Macolm X. However they murdered a lot of people including over 35 cops. Ask Werner Foerster's family what they think of Black Panthers.

That is a fallacy in our system but can you think of a better one?

That's the job of the courts.

I never heard that when I went to the Glock course. They endorsed flushing their guns out with Gun Scrubber then. Over 40 years with the military and over 30 years in law enforcement and I never heard anyone advocate a "full detail strip" on a regular basis. Some guns need some springs replaced periodically. But they all show symptoms before they fail. Even if you know what you're doing and use the right tools the gun will undoubtedly be damaged over repeatedly taking it all apart. Just my experience FWIW.

That photo is not a Black Panther. That's Macolm X. That photo appeared shortly after his break with the Nation of Islam and intended to show he was ready to defend himself and his family from the Nation of Islam. While he was radical and a separatist, after his break with the Nation of Islam he had many ideas most of us would agree with. He wanted American Blacks to become responsible and educated. He believed before a black man asked for help he needs to help himself. He wasn't anti-white as many think. He hated the white men who thought they knew what the black man needed. He once said, "I believe in human beings and all human beings should be respected regardless of their color". It was ideas like this that got him assassinated by Nation of Islam thugs. There are a few of his ideas I think no one here would disagree with, "Non-violence is fine as long as it works" "I don't even call it violence if it's in self defense. I call it intelligence"

Don't know if it's the same thing you're talking about but a few years ago Kahr (?) came out with a M1 Carbine. A NJ FFL called NJSP and asked if it was legal. NJSP said yes and the dealer sold a few. The AG must have got in the mix while these was going on and said they were not legal and the dealer had to round up those he sold. Now if there were a NJ legal M1 Carbine clone out there it would sell big time here.

There is no rhyme or reason in what logic NJ had in writing their AWB. I liken it to me writing a law on brain surgery (which I know nothing about).

I wouldn't bet my freedom on that. NJ AWB list "M1 Carbine type". That includes Plainfields, Universals, and yours. Doesn't make a difference if it's marked M300 or whatever. To use your words "technically" it's an "M1 Carbine type".

Yes, if you need it a clean gun is more likely to provide a happy ending.

@45Doll there is no need to do a "full detail strip" if the gun isn't broken. I have a Combat Commander I bought in 1975 and carried for about 10 years. The first time it had a "full detail strip" was 25 years and at least 20,000 rds later. The hammer was dropping to half cock. Had the gun rebuilt. A few internal parts and springs were replaced. I have my Glocks 26 over 20 years. Still runs fine with only normal cleaning. The last time it was apart was when it was manufactured. I've seen guns during my over 40 in the military clogged with sand, mud, quicksand and anything you can think of. I'm talking M16s, M4s, 1911s, M9s, revolvers, and anything the Army has used up to a 50 cal since the 60s. Field strip, rinse with water, use WD40 to displace the water, solvent to remove the WD40, and then clean conventionally. Blow out with air between steps if you had it. You only needed a deuce and a half to supply the compressed air. When I oversaw several hundred semiautomatics and revolvers there was inspection every qualification quarterly. An extra step for revolvers is once a year I would remove the sideplate, flush out any garbage with gunscrubber, and lube with CLP or Drislide. I don't know where people got this idea a gun needs a "full detail strip" on a regular basis.

BTW, what make is that carbine?

I used to make people clean their guns at the range before they left. We did have facilities with which you could clean a handgun in about 5 minutes. I was well supported by management with this policy. A clean gun is a happy gun and a happy gun will take care of you.

Looks like it's a "M1 Carbine Type" which is an "assault weapon" in NJ. Illegal in NJ. Not sure of how much time you'd get but you will have a few years to get acquainted with Bubba.

My 870 is about 25 years old.

I've had one for a few years. I got it on a trade. I've put a few hundred rounds through it and am satisfied. Runs fine, no problems. I have no reservations about using it for a SD gun. May not have the durability of an 870 (known to go several hundred thousand rounds) but I doubt I'll wear it out. I don't think you'd be wasting $150. Good price.

To summarize what @High Exposure said it's not the number of rounds you shoot, it's what you learn from shooting them. I find it amusing when people say they spent a couple of hours at the range and went through 1000 rds. All they accomplished was sending lead downrange.

I understand wanting to take a gun apart and see how it works. Regular "detail stripping" is not needed. Even if you have the correct tools and know how to do it eventually some damage will be done. The only time a gun needs to be taken apart is if it's broken. Everytime I've ever taken a gun apart to repair I've always test fired it before that gun would be put back in service. Yes, there are function checks that don't involve live fire shooting. Nothing function checks as well as shooting it though. For that reason alone I would never use that service.

@Howard not trying to bust your chops but too many people seek out the lightest trigger they find to use as a crutch not an advantage. Swapping out springs and other parts to become a "great shooter" is the wrong way to do it. Now I know none of us here shoots like Jerry Miculek. Some of the "great shooters" on this forum were surprised when they found out Miculek uses extra power springs in his revolvers. 10-12 lb is normal , I guess he uses 14lb or more. This assures the revolver will function as fast as he can pull the trigger. One can outrun the trigger on a revolver if the trigger is too light. One wouldn't think of participating in a triathlon without building up those muscles for running, swimming, and biking. You need to do the same if one wants to be a "great shooter". A "great shooter" can shoot just as well with a 10lb trigger as a 2.5lb trigger. Smooth is much more important than light in a trigger. I guarantee you Miculek's guns have smooth triggers and he can finger wrestle guys a lot bigger than him and win.

Would a 3.5# Glock factory trigger been too much?

There are agencies that buy time on FATS. Someone like @High Exposure would know more about that than me. I've shot FATS owned by my agency or as part of an asset sharing (for example at Rodman's Neck with NYPD). To teach basics a bullseye simulator should be comparatively cheap.

I haven't shot a FATS for some time. Even then there were FATS that would shoot back at you hitting parts of your body with a blast of compressed air. Thing is how much do you think you can charge and make money on it. You'd have to do constant updates. People would stop coming if they shot the same scenarios.

The military has used VR systems for training for some time. Flight simulators , artillery adjustment, tank gunnery, crew served weapons, and small arms are just some of the ways the military uses them. I don't think you'd be able to touch these kind of systems for 100k.

Apologies, I can't make it. Overextended myself yesterday.

How light of a trigger pull do you get?

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