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Why would they? The PP has in red at the top, "THIS PERMIT IS FOR USE ONLY IN NEW JERSEY".

Not much of a challenge IIRC. Many gunowners felt the law would be contested and overturned. That didn't happen though. The feeling was reinforced by the lack of registration. You could register it cheap ($5) by making it inoperative. You could register a AR, M1 carbine, or M1A operational for $50 as there are NRA competitions where you can use those rifles. I've seen different numbers of registered "assault weapons" but they were all below 400. While all 3 of those rifles were around my bet is the M1 carbine was the most common. I'll put money on the fact there were more than 400 M1 carbines in NJ then. ARS and M1As were no where near as common then as they are now but I'll bet there were more than 400 of each of those.

Browning BLR is lever action with detachable box magazine.

Detachable magazine is understandable. So is fixed magazine. What people are discussing here is modifying an AR to a fixed magazine and what would be legal in NJ. What is a fixed magazine in an AR would have to be addressed by the proposed law. What is a fixed magazine in other states may not be a fixed magazine in NJ.

Because they haven't written the law yet. No one can give you guidance on a law that doesn't exist.

I'm not saying there is truth to what you say but I think it's worse now. Today you have just about an entire major political party professing socialism and other ideas totally opposite to American ideals. You didn't have losing presidential candidates bellyaching a year and a half after the election on how they were cheated. The radical factions in the 60s and 70s may have been more violent at times but today there are a lot more of them. Presidents in the 60s and 70s didn't go around apologizing for the US, paying off terrorist nations, and opening up borders like Obama did for 8 years. I also don't think 30% of the country believed there was going to be a civil war in the US within 5 years as the link below shows. http://m.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/june_2018/31_think_u_s_civil_war_likely_soon

Central Jersey Rifle and Pistol Club has Cowboy Action the 2nd Saturday of the month.

Don't know if this has changed but back in the 70s NJ Statutes gave firefighters complete police powers enroute to, at the scene, and on the way back from a fire. I knew a few firefighters in larger cities that surreptitiously carried a J frame or Detective Special in their boot. I've heard of them displaying the gun but not of one shooting someone. Like I said this was over 40 years ago.

@Zeke you should have sewn that up yourself like Rambo.

Yes. Just commenting and naming names.

First, one party knowledge of recording is legal in some states and illegal in others. Leave your cell phone on voice record and leave the room where you can't hear the conversation and you've violated the law everywhere. Second, you can store your firearms anywhere as long as a transfer hasn't taken place.

Interesting to note the ruling was given by the 4 liberal justices and Roberts. Ginsburg, Kagan, Sotomayor, and Breyer are a bad bet to protect your 2A rights.

Not paranoid. Dispersal is a realistic tactic.

I would agree with you on that. Most people never set their camera to manual. The only reasons to use silver photography IMO are: 1. Perspective control. You can get it using perspective control lens in 35mm but you don't have the full range of tilts and swings like you do with a view camera. There are Photoshop programs that pretty much duplicate a view camera though. 2. The proven permanence of a black and white print. 3. Large prints. Most digital is no where near the resolution of film. However you have to understand that you need to view a large print from a distance for proper perspective. Digital wins as its much easier to do large prints that way than in a wet darkroom.

Based on what you're saying your film was severely underexposed. The negatives were pretty much clear weren't they? If overexposed they would be very dark. If you were shooting f2.8 @ 1/100 with 200 iso in a darkened room that was underexposed. Most people don't realize the difference in the intensity of light. Bright sunlight is thousands of times brighter than average room light. Exposure for a brightly lit gym with 1600 iso would be f2.8-f4 at 1/250. A well lit office (much brighter than your average home lighting) would be f2.8-4 @ 1/30 with 400 iso. I did a lot of available light photography. Theater, art, and surveillance photography. I used 1600 for color and 1600, 3200, or 6400 for black and white. Most times with b&w negative film it was push processed. For example 400 iso shot at 1600 by developing it longer. Some color slide films were capable of being push processed but never knew anyone really successfully pushing color negative film. When you push process b&w film what you do is expand the tonal range in the negative. You can also shoot b&w at the rated iso and extend or shorten developing time to expand or contract the tonal range. That's getting into Ansel Adams and Minor White stuff that Adams popularized as the "Zone System of Exposure". Really way beyond what we're talking here. I did a bit of work with photographic chemistry. All film has a certain degree of exposure latitude. It varies with different types of film. That's a range of over and under exposure where you good still get a decent print. 2 stops either way is very good. Slide films has much more narrow exposure latitude. Using 200 speed film in a brightly lit office would call for f2 to F2.8 @ 1/30. Not knowing how much light your "darkened room" had, I would guess your exposure should have been 1/4 or 1/2 second with iso 200. You really should be using a tripod. You can't handhold at that speed without camera shake. If you're shooting anything that doesn't stay still you're going to get subject movement. Try using faster film if you want to shoot low light. If you want to try black and white try Ilford XP2 film with a iso speed of 400. It is black and white film designed to be processed in C41 chemistry the same as color negative film. It can't be printed on color or black and white paper. It normally comes out sepia toned when printed on color paper but if the printer knows what they're doing they can adjust the filter pack in the enlarger to make true black and white. Do yourself a favor and when you get color negative film processed pay the few bucks extra and have them cut a cd. Much easier to knock out a few extra small prints that way.

You are better off overexposing color negative film a bit (1/3 to 1/2 stop) than underexposing. Color is richer. Lab may return light prints just tell them to print them over. If you're using 400 speed set meter to 320. 200 speed 160.

While locked in the trunk is legal you probably want to use a case to protect it from banging around.

Yes those were the days!!! That photo was much later. Window says 7.99 for the special.

Where did I say this? That was done at the hand Socialist POTUS FDR. It is also much different than what we have been discussing. Trying to claim someone said something they didn't is a tactic used by both Communists and Nazis.

1. Find me the names and circumstance these journalists were detained under. Something that fails by one vote or a hundred vote fails. That's our system. Read the COTUS. Americans that act as belligerents should be treated differently. We did that with Americans that served Germany and Japan in WW2. 2. Not talking about tracking a cell phone. Leave your phone on voice record where others are talking and you've violated electronic surveillance laws. 3. There are always abuses of anything. Not right and punished when caught. FISA warrants with Trump were obtained using false information. Those responsible will pay. Worried about your information being used against you? Don't commit crimes. 4. Show me the guy growing marijuana convicted under Patriot Act. I'd be interested in hearing the details. I think your memory is flawed. 5. Where is this long list of abuses? Have there been mistakes? Sure there have. Everyone isn't perfect like you. 6.Terrorism is a bogeyman? Tell that to the victims in terrorist influenced shootings and bombings. You can push and provide someone any way you want. They were found guilty in courts with all legal protections. You know that no one can be found guilty of a conspiracy without predisposition and an overt act (except a drug conspiracy). Eagerly awaiting all these examples you're talking about.

Okay... 1. Jones vs US 2012? Dealt with agents using a GPS tracking device without a warrant. No relavance to what's being discussed here. I always got warrants for using a GPS tracker. Easier to get than a search warrant for a premises. Shame on the agents. 2. You throw out a few sentences about stingrays. You wind up saying the same thing I said SCOTUS will decide. 3. 1021 and 1022 permit DOD to detain belligerents for an indefinite period. DOD does not enforce civil law. You know that. Don't be a terrorist and you have nothing to fear from 1021 and 1022. DOD has different rules for warfare. I find it stage that you oppose this yet feel criminals should be incarcerated until reformed. I guess you never heard of the 8A. Please list the names of journalists who were detained under 1021 and 1022. I couldn't find them. Your ACLU link doesn't show anyone who suffered from the Patriot Act. 4. Patriot Act did not give government access to anything they didnt have before. It did make it easier to get that info. I'll repeat, you can't use the Patriot Act to go after "high capacity" magazines. The Patriot Act is for going after terrorists. Are you for coddling terrorists? 5. Changes to FISA put more restrictions on government. 6. SOPA has to do with intellectual property rights. CISPA deals with Internet companies sharing data with government. CISA is an auditor's certification. Can any of this be used to illegally collect info? Sure, so can your smart phone. You throw out one liners about how all these laws destroy our liberties bit don't provide any supporting documentation. The same thing you have been critical of liberals. You should consider the fact that your posting of misinformation and half truths is fearmongering.

This is correct. Read the law. You are allowed one "evil feature". On ARs it's the pistol grip. If y look you don't have any other "evil features" on your Mini 14 you can have a flash surpressor.

I don't have a 605 but a few other Taurus J frame size revolvers. All have run fine. The oldest is from 1988. The newest made last year. The basic design hasn't changed since then. The only problem I see is that I have with any J frame size 357. Using magnums you get a lot more recoil, muzzle blast, and loss of control. You get all that at a gain of maybe 100 fps (or even less) because of the short barrel. I carried a 640 for a few years. Found I could still max a Qual course with it using magnums but you really don't want to shoot it more than that 60 rds. I carried it with +P+. Loss of about 50 fps in velocity and a lot more controllability. You're much better off shooting 38s in it. Yeah, try the magnums but you'll like shooting 38s a lot better with no real loss in efficiency. Hard to learn revolver shooting with because of its size and short sight radius. If a J frame isn't your relative's cup of tea let me know I might be interested in it. If it is I think they can't go wrong keeping it. I carry a J frame size gun probably more than any other. Not the best gun to have in a fight but it will take care of most situations.

When exactly did you do your 2 years of law school? 20 years ago? That might make you more knowledgeable than some people in many respects but far from a legal expert. It has been much more recently than 20 years since I have dealt with getting a search warrant. I operated with the Patriot Act for several years before I retired. The fact remains you've never been the affiant for a search warrant so you're talking about something you've never done. You use your bit of education to try and bamboozle people with your so called knowledge which I will explain. The Patriot Act was passed to deal with terrorism. Not possession of a "high capacity" magazine. You're quoting a law out of context to support your argument. While the Patriot Act does give more tools to law enforcement and makes it easier to obtain information in many respects it has nothing to do with state gun laws. If it isn't terrorism related you can't use the Patriot Act. You seem to think NJSP would go to the Feds and try to claim possession of a "high capacity" magazine makes someone a terrorist. I repeat, if it isn't terrorism you can't use the Patriot Act. Please enlighten us on how many Americans have been harmed by the Patriot Act? Thousands? Hundreds? A dozen? Maybe no one. Please show us all these people who have been harmed by use of the Patriot Act. Tell us about someone you know that's been harmed by the Patriot Act. Your quoting the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) shows you've drank the black helicopter Kool Aid. The NDAA has been around since the 60s. It tells DOD how to spend their money. So which part of the NDAA bothers you? The part that authorizes funds to improve family housing at Ft Benning? Maybe it's the improved navigation systems for F16s? You really need to be more specific about what sections of the Patriot Act you're referring to. It does contain sections dealing with terrorism and illegal combatants. You linked an article about stingrays but can't relate all these cases where they have been used to illegally intercept conversations and use that info for search warrants as you claim. The technology of a stingray has been around a long time. Even before I retired. Courts have ruled theres a lower expectation of privacy for a pen register. You still need a judge to sign off for a pen or to listen to conversations. Ultimately SCOTUS will rule on the use of stingrays. That's in COTUS too. You are guilty of what liberals do on this forum. You don't answer questions and just shift to other issues to try and prove your point.

Okay... 1. It's not that the warrant wouldn't hold up. The warrant wouldn't be issued by the most "liberal judge". 2. One can have a confidential informant. Does your use of quotation marks indicate you think cops just make up confidential informants? If you ever wrote an affidavit for a search warrant you would know you have to state both the reliability of the informant and reliability of the information and the totality of the circumstances. The last is the only requirement in most jurisdictions but the first two are really part of it. More on that later. You have to prove to the judge that the contraband is still at the location you're requesting the warrant for. The warrant must also contain the specific items you are searching for. "Supporting documentation", among other things that usually means long hours of surveillance and assembling documents. 3. The "right judge"? Better hope it's one that doesn't want spelling and grammar his way (I've seen that). Yes some judges are easier to get warrants from. That's because of a working relationship the LEO and judge has developed. If I previously get 10 different search warrants from a judge and I find the contraband or evidence I listed in the warrant it increases my credibility. The judge knows this from the return of the warrant Judges are anyone else in their career. They don't want to make a decision or sign warrants that will be overturned. Do judges make mistakes? Sure they do. It doesn't do anything for their career if they make too many mistakes. 4. Illegal wiretaps used to develop probable cause for a warrant? What country was this in? Not the US. Doing so is a case of the fruit of the poisonous tree. If something illegal was done to obtain the probable cause for a warrant, everything associated with that act, including the warrant, is no good and inadmissible. There are exceptions to this but very few. I never met LEO willing to risk their freedom with an illegal wire tap. I