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I was trying to say that the NJ Legislature would rather write the laws to loosen gun control as little as they can instead of having looser laws imposed from outside. This is good in that it does let us have our input as well... Bad in that so does everyone else in NJ

Doing it legislatively means the legislature is in control. Let the federal courts do it and who knows? In particular if the suit comes out of PA instead of NJ...

The direct link rarely works for me - that's why I gateway through the state police.

I use the link the the statutes from here - http://www.state.nj.us/njsp/about/fire_ag2.html and click on the Chapter 39 link; then hit Search. Mind the disclaimer at the bottom ot the NJ Permanent Statutes page.

Nothing in subsections b., c. and d. of N.J.S.2C:39-5 shall be construed to prevent: (1) A member of any rifle or pistol club organized in accordance with the rules prescribed by the National Board for the Promotion of Rifle Practice, in going to or from a place of target practice, carrying such firearms as are necessary for said target practice, provided that the club has filed a copy of its charter with the superintendent and annually submits a list of its members to the superintendent and provided further that the firearms are carried in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section Or (3) A person transporting any firearm or knife while traveling Directly to or from any target range, or other authorized place for the purpose of practice, match, target, trap or skeet shooting exhibitions, provided in all cases that during the course of the travel all firearms are carried in the manner specified in subsection g. of this section and the person has complied with all the provisions and requirements of Title 23 of the Revised Statutes and any amendments thereto and all rules and regulations promulgated thereunder Above excerpted from 2C:39-6 subsection f (other places in that area permit the posession at home or a fixed place of business, at a gun store or place to repair, in transit between permitted area, etc) Subsection g g.All weapons being transported under paragraph (2) of subsection b., subsection e., or paragraph (1) or (3) of subsection f. of this section shall be carried unloaded and contained in a closed and fastened case, gunbox, securely tied package, or locked in the trunk of the automobile in which it is being transported, and in the course of travel shall include only such deviations as are reasonably necessary under the circumstances. (3) seems to cover what (1) does as well as much more, so I don't see the point of (1). Perhaps (3) was added later? Note, BTW, that the law as recorded in 2C:39-5 subsection c Rifles and shotguns. (1) Any person who knowingly has in his possession any rifle or shotgun without having first obtained a firearms purchaser identification card in accordance with the provisions of N.J.S.2C:58-3, is guilty of a crime of the third degree. So for the FID holder, in statute law, the FID drops the requirement to transport under 2C:39-6 e,f,g... IANAL and you should consult the relevant case law as well (particularly before driving around without securing your longarm)

Initial? Well, yes. And then when we moved, presumably because we were a week or so out of the 90-day address change window. (That was a pain in the ass because they took the old cards and it took 6 weeks for the new ones to show up. OTOH, they're not marked duplicate; and the paperwork errors from the previous set are cleaned up)

Scotch Plains had me provide money orders to the tune of $60 or so per person - made out to the NJ State Police - for the check...

It's a range - if you're following the 4 Rules; of course you're going to miss me. I'll be here all week.

And now I'm going to have a senior moment - I was at BH on MONDAY, not Tuesday. Ooops

Well, it's either that or paint it pink and decorate with Hello Kitty stickers.. (I kid, I kid)

That's weird - normally the empties end up in my shirt pocket . There's a reason I always wear a ballcap to Bullet Hole; otherwise I get brass trying to squeeze in between my glasses and my face. Sorry about that. I thought there were some familiar faces/bang-bangs... I guess I was just tunnel-visioning on trying out the Marlin, having just bought it over the weekend. I wasn't expecting the meetup to have moved to Tuesdays

Actually, even though I didn't know it was a meetup night; I was there. I had the Marlin 980 and G17 in lane 2 from about 7:45 pm to closing. Not that I was doing well with the Glock.... The Marlin, OTOH, is a nice little toy.

I'm thought the state has a safety course requirement someplace else in the law, and NRA Basic Pistol or the hunting safety course qualifies. Most other states do that. And bonus to the state in these economic times: they don't have to pay for it at all.

I would suspect that depends on town. I missed the 90 days (barely), but I'm not sure it made a difference. OTOH, I didn't change towns when I moved, and my town is relatively good about the whole thing. I haven't had any problem buying ammo or a long gun with the sticker on my license; I just made sure to let the guy doing paperwork know I have the address change sticker.

Never mind - in the Charger thread someone pointed it out - too heavy and has a magazine outside of the grip... Now, it'd be legal if it was the bolt action variant (77/22), no? (No longer semi-auto).

Out of curiosity, why? Wouldn't seem to fall into any obvious pitfalls...

I just picked up one of these in the standard synthetic/fiberglass, and while I don't mind it, I was wondering if I could get a wooden stock for this rifle?

Now I kind of want to get a Charger. Bipod pistol for the silly. I assume I'd have to burn a pistol permit on it?

Some NY LEO orgs flat-out ignore FOPA'86 transit law. Port Authority cops, in particular, have continually arrested lawfully transiting shooters in NY-area airports in violation of FOPA'86.

That's one of the issues in the ANJRPC suite - Scott Bach called the NJSP and asked to apply for an exemption and was told there was no way to do so.

Hey, NJ needs as many shooters as possible to try and push back the stupid laws we have; and to bring in more people to being neutral- or pro-gun. And if she is going to be a shooter, best she shoot well, eh?

I'm glad y'all got me off my ass and onto the firing range. Ray, thanks for sharing your lane and letting me try out that revolver; and sorry about my Glock biting... Next time I'll try and bring a couple of the more interesting targets I've picked up. http://mrcompletely.blogspot.com/ is the blogger that organizes the e-postal matches I shoot; while we're in winter hiatus right now you can look at his archives to see some of the more interesting challenges. They're usually hosted by another gun blogger to whom Mr. Completely links; it's a good way to check out some interesting blogs.

Well, pencil me in - not a definite, yet.

I'll probably be dropping by, along with my wife. Depends on when I get to leave work

That BB bill needs to move to the BAD list - read how it defines excluded BB guns. Arguably airsoft markers would be bundled into firearms (missile larger than .177 in and possibly on the FPS as well) and what happens if you happen to be using spire-point pellets in your BB gun? It shall not include any air gun or pistol which uses air, compressed air or carbon dioxide as the propelling force to eject a ball or non-pointed pellet that does not exceed .177 caliber at a muzzle velocity of less than 500 feet per second, commonly referred to as a BB gun.