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Jack, I politely have to differ with you on this. "Pave the way for them, dont be your typical run of the mill business..." This is exactly what us older guys are referring to when we discuss the current sense of entitlement. Maks, myself and others that open their doors to students and interns are giving an opening where none existed before. That is paving the way, now the students needs to decide if they wish to go down that path or be carried down the path. Personally, I am not going to carry your down a path, I have my own lifting to do. And I am not talking about "paying dues" here, what I mean is showing people what you as a resource can do currently and your ability to learn, which I will gladly compensate you for. But it is the students choice, not an employers obligation to make it happen. Do you know what we used to call flipping burgers or working our summer taring roofs.... opportunities. This is something that is seriously missing from today's college kids.

Rob... go to the seller and see if the deposit will hold the collection. I dont have any experience with what your dealing with, I am about to start the NJSP involvement here in Cherry Hill. But I would get NJSPFD involved ASAP and see if you can request a meeting with the Chief for THURSDAY where you can call the NJSP together with all your current paperwork in hand. This would be very diplomatic in my opinion, if you coach it as a clearing of views, educating yourself and being able to ask the chief questions at the same time. Your town is small, I can create a mental image of your clerk and it aint a good one. You either charm their pants off or press them until they realize they are wrong. Your relations with the clerk will be destroyed, but I dont think that will bother you.

Another Cherry Hill guy. So, what do you bring to the table?

Love it. I get these all the time for Federal Internships, but mine are worse because they come from kids out of lower quality schools or 2yr armed forces. At least you could make out what the little narcissist wanted, some of mine have to be interpreted for me.

MtK?

Ha... good exchange. And being a middle age ex-hippie I can say I am so glad I left the academic type of atmosphere. It melts your brain.

I have shot the TSR200s and have had no issues adjusting. If you want really easy, go with the TS100, but replace the TS100 rear insert with the TS220 rear insert. They will do it for $20. Elevation changes are the flick of a thumb, very simple and this is the setp that I got for my 597. $10 more then the TS200 and VERY SIMPLE.

Hey, we are Americans. We have an extraordinary ability to forget our sins, gloss over our miss-deeds, cleanse our souls of sin and trumpet our successes. Do I think the middle class today is equal to the middle class of colonial times, no. Do I think we are feeling issue of faulty representation currently, YES. Because we keep having libtards elected at the local level, now being run by an ego maniac. IMHO, racism is totally off track here, but I look to the influx of immigrants and black flight from the south, in the early to mid 1800s. These folks were fighting for the same resources, lack of communication, language difficulties, religous issues, crowding etc etc.

Information Page: http://appleseedinfo.org/smf/index.php?topic=20388.0 Registration Page: http://www.eventbrite.com/event/1273843099 The 795 is a good choice as well. I personally went with a Rem 597 from Dicks, because I like the size of the gun more then the 10/22 or the 795, it is sized more like a fullsized rifle. I did have to add sling swivel studs, sling swivels, two additional mags and tech sites. Dicks had closeouts on a model with a BSA Red Dot for about $139, then Rem has a $25 rebate available. So in all my Rifle with all additions was $105 (rifle) + $70 (techsights) + $12 (1 1/4 SlingSwivels) + $12 (WebSling) + $25 (Magazines) = $225. TechSights are a MUST if you plan to shoot irons. An absolute must.

+1 Mack... we are in the dregs now. I am one of the Nov Dec applicants. Det Buehler got an earful the other day concerning their excuses. I am not allowed to give my customers excuses at my job I explained.

For basic rifle please look up Appleseed Project. Go to a weekend shoot, usually $70 per person. You will learn more about rifles in those two days and what we as americans are supposed to be about then anywhere else.

Ha...I actually fat fingered the day... May 21, 2011 is Judgement Day!! There is a church here in Philly that has a big billboard on the Schuykill Exp that is counting down the days to May 21, 2011 as judgement day. Their motto is "Come in and get right with God before." So all the folks here in the FEMA office are using that day as our current tinfoil hat reference.

Ok... I lift the accusation of your possesion of a little red book when you clear me of the 5th grade history knowledge. I admit to 7th grade at best. I realize 100% that no man is totally altruistic... maybe the Dalai Lama, but his handlers aren't. The founding fathers were as a group far from perfect, and yes there is elitism in their works. But I need to argue as it sounds your concept of America is that we were founded as a new fiefdom with no intentions of group liberty. So when I think about your comments at first they sounded somewhat Marxist, but now it is ultra-libertarian or anarchist. And if you are questioning the intention of the founders in such a fashion, with a jaded view, you know are walking along the lines of the progressives that wish to rip apart the originalist views. Which is it? So I will go ahead and offer my stance first. I am an originalist, as I personally believe that there was a magical confluence of intelligence, wisdom and determination happening in the colonies in the mide to late 1700s. These men knew what they were doing, had a great idea and made it work. John Adams himself decried himself a man of the people, yet was fond of only certain people. Human nature?

You kidding right.. You are going to fault a philosphy of freedom born on man's god given ability to rise above their station? Our nation is engineered to be succesful only by the hard labor of the less fortunate? That's what you learned in civic class? Where the f did you go to school, Moscow Middle followed by Lenin High? Thanks for the pick me up this thread was posted to achieve.

With all that is taking place in the world, the current mess that is the USA, and for the real tinfoil hat enthusiast, TEOTWAWKI on May 12, 2011, I am getting more and more shall we call it agitated. I find that insprirational qoutes from smarter people then I help me cope. "The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government." Patrick Henry "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed as they are in almost every kingdom in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States." Noah Webster

Best advice your going to get from myself or anyone else in the thread that has careened off track wildly. If you like .40 thats great. I just never understood the draw of a round that is marginally better then hitest 9mm, and marginally less powerful then unleaded 10mm. Designed by bureacrats for bureacrats. But it did take off more then .45GAP

The 17 is prob more accurate out past 15yds because of the sight rad lenght difference, but I bet you would never notice. The G19 is the best all around handgun made, hands down. It is the do all, never break down, gun of the century. Ok I really like mine. Had it 12 years or so, never one let me down. I will take the 19 over a 17 any day because if of the capacity difference. Smaller, concealable and shootable with 15rds. If we were living in a real state, I would still say 19. There are two great guns in the Glock lineup, and by great I mean historical, and they are the tops of their classes. The G19 is the best med size framed 9mm duty gun. The other is the G20, the best all around 10mm.

by the way... you got to give it to the big kid... he moved fast when the little one made the mistake and got in too close.

ok since we are all sharing... that fat kid was me all through school. I slimmed a little in college but I was over 200pds from 7th grade on. Freshman year high school, neighborhood girl wants to be a tough chick, hangs with the wrong crowd. For some reason the tough guy of the group takes exception to my friendship with this girl, which the little whoa exploits to make inroads with these older kids. So I have a Junior wrestler/druggie coming after me every day for about a week. I played football, baseball and swam, so it's not like I was a puss... I just looked it. Problem is this guy is tough and I am going to get my rear handed to me if I do anything. So after a week of taking crap, I just knuckle down and hit him as hard as I can with a left, I am a southpaw, and follow it with as many shots as I can throw. Problem is, it is now on like Donkey Kong and I proceed to get the butt kicking of a lifetime. He has some serious damage to his right eye, but I am trying to find my nose somewhere near my ear and focus with my right eye, while I clean the dirt out of my mouth from where my face was ground into the earth. Well, this kid stops beating on me, stands up then helps me up and says "Your all right chubbs. We going to be friends." Off we went and got cleaned up at the 7-11 and from that point forward we were friends. Right up to the point when he got caught stealing cars. Bullies just need to either be shown that they are the pusses... or that you will not be one either. Sometimes you got to take a beating. Last on of my life because of some things I learned from that guy, Ron Stray.

If they dont ask for it then you dont need it.

Do not give in. You can get the forms notarized at any bank you have an account with or the twp personnel will do it.

Personally I love it because all they try to teach kids these days is "Go get a parent." You know what thats does, it gives the bully reason now. I caught my wife trying to teach my kids this and I followed up with a lesson in reality. Dont be a target and if you become one, violence of action. +1 to the no named big kid. He learned that from watching WWE I bet.

And this is why I have to hate living here. At first, I thought it was not so bad, there were some gunnies and decent hunting and shooting opportunites, even with restrictions, we can still partake in our hobbies. But it is the criminality of the actions that take all the juice away from it. I become more of a criminal for protecting what is mine, family and possesions, then some dirt bag that is trying to do everything he can to take. This is a person willing to crawl through a window to steal or harm my family so he/she can profit. Yet I have to go to work everyday to do attain items. Then if I protect what I work hard for, possesions or family, I then have to defend MY actions in a court. Where as the dead POS on the floor will be honored as a hard working man, just trying to get bye. The lawyers are what have ruined this states judicial system. Everything is turned so that they can get paid, defending, prosecuting, paperwork, what have you. I am suprised the state has not figured out a way to get lawyers paid for the receipt of our paychecks. By the way... look at what is going on in Japan, watch how the first repsonders are working there, see the level of effort being put forth, it is all hands on deck for survivors. Not many LEO or Mil are being distracted by having to perform security or anti-looting patrols. Why is that... because the people of Japan have a common good versus individual good mentality. It is also a huge embarassement to be caught stealing in Japan. Basically, they dont have a huge population of scumbags there. Granted they like octopuss porn and sell S&M mags out of vending machine so they are not faultless, but still. I need out...

This situation just keeps getting worse. Even the most conservative estimates are horrific. I have stopped listening to predictions, they have all been wrong. This hopefully a good lesson for the US as we have many Nuke build on fault lines. Basically our rivers are usuakky faults, water flows to easy places. One specific example if the Savanaha Nuke in Ga. This is prob a bad place to build nuclear reactors.

This was not a false alarm. I would have shot my cat if it did that. I hate that thing and I am just looking for any excuse!