jeff47

Hey, I voted for the FAL back on page 3 already. The FAL is a rifle that is on my short list

About 10 years ago I was waiting the 6 months it finally took to get my FID and 1 pistol permit and I was working in Newark on the edge of the Iron bound section. There were some ugly projects across the street (among other places) and I would occasionally over hear some of the guys talking about how such and such bought a pistol a few weeks ago from this dude, and somebody else bought a MAC10 from some other dude last night.... I thought, why the fuck am I waiting 6 months to legally purchase a firearm when I can walk next door with these guys and buy a Machine pistol next week? Oh, because I'm a sucker apparently who obeys the law. God forbid if I owned a 20 rd magazine, I'd wind up in prison the next 10 years. What a bunch of shit.

My personnel opinion is that an AK is an AK, but some are certainly of higher quality. They were made by dozens of countries all over the world, all of which have added there own personal flavor and in some cases some neat features. The Saiga is basically a sporterized AK. It use a proprietary fire control group which is best decribed as 'craptastic'. I don't think anyone buys a Saiga without some plan to convert at least the FCG and pistol grip of the standard semi auto AK clone. They are made in Russia. The VEPR is considered a top quality AK type rifle as well. I've never used one but I've heard good things about them and I'm sure someone else will chime in shortly. I beleive they're made in the Molot arsenal in Russia, though I've heard they are made in the Ukraine as well? The SAR and WASR rifle are made in Romania, the main difference being that WASR rifles are usually single stack only. I don't think they're importing the SAR's any longer? There is a marked difference in pre 1986 Rom and post 86 romy rifles. The earlier ones are considered to be just as good as any other AK while the later ones have a much rougher fit and finish. They still function fine but they are cosmetically not as nice. The post 86 rifles are also known to have occasional canting issues on the front sight, be aware of this if you look at one. The MAK90 is made in China and is considered to be very accurate as far as AK's go. Their mass import decades ago made them the go to rifle for Gang bangers in CA and arguably helped lead to the original assualt weapons ban. All Chinese Made AK's use a smaller 19mm front trunnion as opposed to the standard 23mm and occasional 22mm. (This measurement describes the outer diameter of the barrel where is inserts into the trunnion). The Valmet is considered to be one the greatest AK off shoots (made in Finland) and then there is the Galil (which was originally built on tolling from Valmet). Both of these rifles have tried to correct some of the major issues with the AK platform. Specifically The painfully slow mag changes as opposed to say the AR and the ridiculously silly fire selector switch. There are also a slew of 'smithed' AK's from a variety of people (including Century and many far better smaller smiths such as ARS) who use imported Military AK parts and build them on NDS or other contract receivers. I have built several rifles myself using this method. The upside to this type rifle is that you can get all kinds of cool rifles from Yugoslavia, Romania, Russia, Egypt, etc. A quick note about the Maadi rifles from Egypt, they are considered to be the closest copy of the original russian rifle as they are the only rifles to be made on the original Russian tooling that was sold to them. Some consider the Yugo rifles to be very high quality, their standard rifles (The M70 series) and their RPK's (M72) both use a heavy RPK front trunnion and a special rear trunnion only used by Yugo style AK's. Their M92 style 'krink' rifles are the only ones that use a 'standard' front trunnion and are often chambered in 5.45 but occasionally in 7.62 as well. The standard Yugo rifle uses a different gas block as well. They have a flip up piece that serves to cut off the gas flow to the receiver and serve as a sight for when using rifle grenades. They are the only rifle to also incorporate a special locking lug to keep the top cover from flying off when firing rifle grenades. For some unknown reason the Yugo rifles are not normally chrome lined. I'm sure someone will come along shortly to add to this but this should get you started with some basic AK info. Good luck.

Elbow up is a pretty common position to use when firing a shotgun. In fact I was chastisted for shooting trap with my elbow down the first time out and I was immediately called out as a 'rifle shooter', which up to that point was mostly true. My guess is she has more training with a shotgun than an AR.

.223/5.56 out of a 16" AK barrel is just as impotent as .223/5.56 out of a 16" AR barrel. One thing I never understood is the commercial appeal of M4gery rifles. The M4 is a short barreled 14.5" rifle, the M16 is a 20" full size rifle. For some reason, the most popular civillian "AR" is probably the M4gery clones that have a 16" barrel and shorter handguards/sight radius to try and look like an M4. It's a shame so many AR owners sell themselves short with a barrel that neuters their terminal ballistics and a shorter sight radius for no reason. 1) Everyone else has one so you might as well join the cool kids 2) It handles better in close quarters. You can hit targets at 1000+ Yards with 223 and 24" bull barrel fairly easily. It doesn't even have to be that special a barrel. But good luck lugging that around. If it was legal I'd get a SBR Krink in a second. Mostly because they're cool though. On that note, beautiful krink totalabuse, is that the 5.45? You build that, If not who did the work? ETA: I'm not a fan of the M4 style, but that's mostly because I don't like the look of the barrel profile. But obviously I'm in the minority.

+1 for Chris from MDTS. I took his pistol and tactical knife classes. Very professional and you'll learn so much you'll be reviewing the class in your head for days. As far as the knife class I wasn't sure what to expect at first but found it very informative. I'd take it again if he offers it. He deals as much with dealing with people armed with a knife and just not getting stabbed (whether you're armed or not) as anything else. Pretty useful whether you're heading into LE work or just walking down the street. IMHO Barnegat is definitely South Jersey.

*sigh* I think it depends on the role you plan on playing. You can increase the accruacy of an AK by tightening up the headspace but then it will no longer feed all ammo reliably. The AK is designed to be issued to peasants and train them on how to use the rifle in about 10 minutes, obviously that's not the case with the AR. The AK is designed to be made in 3rd world country's from craptastic tooling and fire crap ammo reliably. But... When those 12 special forces guys were found behind enemy lines during the 1st Gulf war they wound up killing almost 400 Iraqi's. Part of that was the ordanance they had dropped nearly on top of them when they were being overrun but they were killing Iraqi's out at 600-800 Meters with impunity while the enemy was attempting to close on the US position. In the jungle I'd say AK or other harsh environment where vision is obscured behond 100 meters. In open country with long visibility, an AR. If I had an AR and saw 4 guys coming towards me with AK's at over 800 Yards, I'd probably have 4 AK's to add to my collection. Both weapons have undergone significant changes in the way they are manufactured and the AK fire control has been upgraded several times since it was originally issued for safety and reliability reasons so it's not like the design for either has remained stagnant. I would never use US made AK mags, I have heard nothing but horror stories about how terrible they are. Yugo Mags have a BHO open feature, and you can modify standard mags to achieve the same purpose if you want. Basically the follower comes up and keeps the bolt carrier from slamming forward. Unfortunately unless you adjust the safety lever to grab the carrier, its just going to slam forward when you go to change magazines. So not really useful for anything other than to tell you that you're out of Ammo. As far as the caliber, The USSR changed to use the smaller 5.45 round as standard issue over the larger round and several groups now use the AR chambered in 6.8 to overcome that perceived deficiency I personally own both. So... I guess my choice is an FAL.

I break clays fine with just the factory bead sights but I've heard great things about the fiber optic sights for shooting clays. I'm considering picking up a set and dropping them on my HD shotgun to try out.

I have used GPal to buy a few things with my credit card, similar to Paypal, without a hitch. The other bonus is that you don't have to worry about GPal freezing your account and holding your money for 90 days on the odd chance that someone puts a gun related word in the transaction detail, unlike paypal.

Everyone I've ever worked with has run plenum through the walls for Firecode compliance. For 2 cables in a private residence it's probably not a big deal but...

If you post this same question on another forum, one frequented with far more dealers and manufacturers, you will find that this is SOP with ATF and they will be happy to quote you a long list of things that were legal and then deemed not so much after repeated requests. One person gets it in writing and 300 more call up to confirm and to get it in writing. ATF, inundated with calls suddenly becomes wary and thinking they F'd up, go back, review and decide that on second thought we don't want to do this. Even if it is within the realm of legality they become suspicious and pull the plug. Maybe you should ask ATF whether or not your shoelaces are legal and see what they come back with too. ETA: So as not to seem too vague, the ATF had classified shoelaces as a MG until very recently, when they realized how stupid it sounded.

wraenking - Where are you located? I'm sure there's somebody in the area with a network tester and then you can knock that off your list. It's usually a problem when you punch the connections on the jack but if you have a break in even one of the 8 wires, it won't give you a valid connection. CAT6 is a little overkill in my opinion as I've run Gbit over 5e with no problems. If you're anywhere near Union County send me a PM.

The rear stock on a Yugo only fits other Yugo rifles (or the tabuk). The Rear trunnion is completely different and attaches via a long bolt that goes through the stock from the back to the front as opposed to standard AKM furniture that uses the 2 tang screws. I'm not sure about the front handguards but considering that the Front trunnion on the Yugo rifles are different as well (but they are the same as the front trunnions of other com block RPK's) I'm guessing they may not fit either.

Are they hiring out on these rigs because I'm unemployed and it looks like you make a lot more money than I did even when I was employed. First the MG42/53 and now this, you are killing me! Seriously, best of luck with it, I've heard they are awesome.

Yes I meant disconnector and not sear, thats what i get for copying and pasting. Of course the sear is a seperate FCG part, they just frown on you when you install it. :naughty: He's got a muzzle break so I was assuming he was planning to thread the muzzle? ETA: Actually I think I'm confusing these 2 threads but...

It's nice to see you using wood. Most don't like the get the Romanian front grip and modify it, but I think it has character.

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15 Rd AK magazines only exist when someone makes them That having been said if you're going to stop by and have junkmanted help you opening up the mag well (very gracious on his part I might add), he can also supply you magazines through his PA hook up. Contact him first obviously. As far as 922 stuff there are 16 AK specific parts: 1. Muzzle device 2. Barrel 3. Gas piston 4. Handguards 5. Trunion (this is the front trunion, the rear trunion does not count) 6. Bolt carrier 7. Bolt 8. Receiver 9. Pistol grip 10. Buttstock 11. Hammer 12. Sear 13. Trigger 14. Magazine body 15. Mag. Floorplate 16. Mag. follower There seems to be some confusion within the community and I don't believe ATF has made a ruling as to whether or not a muzzle nut is considered a muzzle device or not so keep that in mind. If you want to change the gas piston there is an excellent tuturial on AK-Builder.com. There is a guy on the akfiles with the handle 'Ronin' who makes excellent US made grips in a variety of styles (Romanian, Yugo, East German, Israeli, I think he makes 8-12 different kinds) that are excellent. I've got several grips from him and they are awesome. In my opinion you want to avoid relying on Mag parts as you are technically breaking the law if you use different mags that are not compliant but to each his own. Good luck.

I think it's a great idea that will never function well enough to actually be 100% useful, hence the LE exemption. If I was LE I sure as hell wouldn't want to trust my life to this thing that 'should mostly' work and as only simple subjects, sucks to be us. That and I'm sorry but everything that has been built to be 100% effective (as far as locking the gun out) always seems to be easily foiled with a toothpick or piece of chewing gum. Sony spent Millions (or was it tens of millions?) on their ultra super secret unbreakable CD copy protection and somebody found out that you could bypass it by running a sharpie around the outside edge of the disk all of 3 days after it was released. Oops!

Most ads I've seen specify that FFL must accept from private individual or there will be an additional charge to ship from an FFL on your side.

In all fairness the lawsuit that was dissmissed basically said that the police aren't legally obligated to save you if they're not around. While I don't remember the exact details it wasn't like the police were drinking coffee and eating donuts while those woman were being raped and tortured and said "F' it, I'm on break" or something. But that having been said if you can't carry a cop with you it would nice to have some sort of legal protection.

I believe there is an exemption in the law for airsoft specifically (or so I heard) as by definition it is no doubt considered a firearm under the insanley broad definition of the NJ Firearms law.

I got my FID and pistol permit back in 2000 and it was about a 6 month wait. I had my FID redone about a year ago (I moved within town) and that took just over a month I beleive. It seems they have gotten more anal as they had a notice up that they would not extend any pistol permits but that was about a year ago. Once I'm re-employed (which will hopefully be soon) I'm going to go in for some pistol permits so let us know how it goes.

Years ago my brother in law was living down in Florida when a friend of his asked him to go out shooting with him (the friend suplied all of the firearms and ammo). When they got to where they were going to shoot (out in the middle of nowhere, the backwoods or some swamp) he handed my brother in law a loaded pistol and told him to tuck it into his belt so he had it handy while they were shooting. Apparently they had issues with guys coming up and murdering people and stealing their firearms when they were reloading. Not saying that is the case but a lawyer who did personal injury may have made quite a bit of money and so might have some fairly expensive firearms on him. But as others have said, he was a laywer so he had to have some enemies so who knows.

I served on a county murder case for 7 weeks about 2 years ago. It was both really cool and really painful. When it came down to the final decision (one was up for murder in all of it's 12 degrees and the other for assault, simple vs aggravated vs. some other craziness and there was a host of weapons related charges all applying to a single knife) we spent literally days trying to determine the appropriate degree of the 4 charges applied against the defendants and a lot of that was listening to the breakdowns of the charges over and over again. Everytime we'd walk back into the jury room we'd start to discuss and someone would say "wait I thought the difference between murder 1, 2 and 3 was this..." and we'd all argue and usually head back out to hear the same thing at some point. The laws are so insane and the definitions so difficult to understand (These are all oral, you're not allowed to have a 'definition sheet' with you and you can't write a damn thing down, why I have NO IDEA) that attempting to even remember them much less apply them is a challenge. If you want to rehear the definitions or testimony you write down your request on a slip of paper, pass it to the judge and wait while everything (and everyone) is brought out to the ready. I guess long story short the proccess is about 100 times more complicated than I would ever have imagined and you need to judge the case based on things that your have heard, and sometimes ignore things you've heard if requested as it wasn't admissible. If chosen you will spend more time in the jury room as the judge, DA and defense guys argue 10,000 points of law than you will actually witnessing the case. I thought the experience was awesome but I was damn glad to get the hell out of there after 7 weeks. Good luck.