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Yea, I've heard about this. Even locally, at Mercer County Community College, there is a professor who teaches a lit course, "Science Fiction." Its really well done, a lot of work, but the individual work highlights everything from hardcore SF (classic The Prisoner) to space opera (Star Wars)-- and, yes, even zombie fiction as well as post-apocalyptic fiction. I actually used Zombie Survival Guide/World War Z for one of my papers (and One Second After for another).

Relevance to topic?

The government (or some entity related) has said that anything over 140dB will cause damage to hearing. There are companies that do make suppressors that are technically below 140dB-- making them "safe" to be used without ear-pro... albeit, the dB the suppressors create are around 130-- haha, so, I'd rather stick with my ear pro regardless.

I've got classes all day, otherwise I'd consider joining you out there.

Ahaha, Mastoris was delicious. First time for me going there in probably a decade (aside from the occasional Mastoris pies that I would run in to during my travels). Shane, when we were talking back by the Jeep (about the MWS and piston ARs, etc), the gentleman in the jeans and button-up T-shirt (and probably shivering ) was Caine. And yes, please do please let me know when you'll be taking out the MWS publicly (as I'm sure you'll want to run it through its paces on your own accord).

The guys listed in the past posts made it, as well as njpilot and his wife's brother (I hope I remembered that correctly!). It was really nice meeting some new faces finally, and of course on the day that the AR gods place Caine and I in the same vicinity (and Shane too)-- its a downpour. As I was driving down, the rain started lightly-- I was thinking, "this isn't too bad." As soon as I hit Cookstown, it just started really coming down. I then pull into R14, and its absolutely packed... turned out it was a hunter safety course day. Fortunately, though the initial parking was bad, the lanes themselves were pretty open for the duration we were there (from opening til about 1PM, literally right when Tim and his son got there). I'd say it was a pretty good turnout considering the weather-- and even better spirits. badchevelle, thanks for getting us to where we were trying to go-- and we made it to Mastoris with ease. Good time, and good to meet some new and old faces. My favorite of the day was TJ's 17HMR-- that rifle was awesome B). Also, finally seeing a MN fireball was pretty awesome (Nick's M44). Hopefully next time the weather will favor us a bit more, but good times regardless.

We're here, rain and all. Come on out

Ha yea, if they think you're just absolutely nuts for thinking of prepping, best to just move on with your life. And if you want to start up a BOB (bug out bag), BIB (bug in bag), and/or INCH (I'm Never Coming Home [kit]) thread, go for it!

Maybe you can ask if they are or wants to be involved with the local CERT (Community Emergency Response Training). If they know what it is, then they've probably thought of prepping to some degree. If they don't know, then it could be your chance to test the waters straightforward by describing what CERT is, and, more importantly, their thoughts on prepping. If they're favorable, then maybe delve further; otherwise it might be a good time to do an about-face.

Revamped: lunker* tj462nj* bbk* totalabuse* Ray Caine krd mikey chrisjm981 Radek badchevelle Alright, I'll see you guys around 7:30

So, currently we have: lunker* tj462nj* bbk* Ray Caine krd mikey chrisjm981 Radek badchevelle bryan? *denoting members. If you are a R14 member, please comment... and if I missed your name, please comment. For reference, each member can guest four. As of now, we'll just meet by the front porch. If you want to know what vehicle I'll be driving or my number, send me PM. I'll be looking for lunker myself Regarding targets, R14 sells target stands w/ targets on them (not sure about the current variety, but there's always been a few to select from). They're wooden backed, and you can place paper targets on them. I also have a box of targets myself in my trunk if need be (some Q, smaller point scoring silhouette, and bulls eye [that I use personally for zeroing]).

The Taurus PT1911 was a decent shooter-- I wasn't turned off any by the fact that it was a Taurus. Does anybody have any hands on experience with the STI Spartan? It was brought up before briefly, but any more info on it?

He's the narrator from Tim O'Brien's "The Nuclear Age." A grown man with a family and decent job... becomes obsessed with the possibility of nuclear annihilation, and obsessively digs a hole for a nuclear bunker/fallout shelter. The general theme for that question being the overly obsessive reasoning, and not necessarily the physical act of digging (though I suppose that could be a part of it).

Ha, for some, yea, I guess those are the three B's (and I couldn't disagree with their importance!) Traditionally, Beans, Bandages and Boooooolits. Beans being consumables (food and water, etc); Bandages and Bullets being self-explanatory.

As noted, this is a pseudo-serious poll/discussion to kind of break the ice on this new sub forum. As a disclaimer, and I'm going to take a page out of Zombie Squad's book (http://zombiehunters...php?f=31&t=3077): "So please, no threads announcing how you are going to pop someone and take their food. We don't want to hear how you've got enough firepower to make sure some eighty year old gives you her last bottle of water. While we've no doubt that you are a complete bad a** (okay, we have SOME doubts), we don't want to hear it" [noncyr @ ZS] Regarding the poll, most of the choices are obvious (OK, not all of them are obvious). If you want clarification, feel free to ask and I'll be less ambiguous-- just wanted to have some fun with the choices compared to the normal plain-Jane selections. *For "other," put down whatever that doesn't fit in the above choices. Be honest, and feel free to add any pertinent comments. Of course there will be some slight sarcasm, jokes, and stretches of reality (or those tend to come up in this type of discussion), but lets keep it on track if we can. Ultimately, this might be a good way to branch out, and start other threads of interest from ideas that might crop up from this discussion (IE. canned food/water storage, bug out bags, etc). Alright, get at it.

Thoughts on maybe merging "long range" and "battle" into one? There are a handful of semi-auto .308s that can achieve sub/one MOA, while easily touching out to 800yds with the right ammunition. Agreed that it would be a bit heavy, but DPMS .308, KAC SR-25, LMT MWS, JP LRP-07, LaRue OBR, and LWRC REPR are a few off the top of my head. Its debatable which one of those fit the bill for "battle rifle" (Shane could chime in here), versus strictly semi-precision.

As Maks pointed out to me once, just Google directions to 1 Cookstown Browns Mill Rd, Cookstown, NJ. From there, head south down Cookstown Browns Mill Rd, and the entrance to Range 14 will be on the left hand side (noted with a sign for Range 14). From Woodbridge, its about an hour, Radek. On another note though, maybe we should "finalize" a list of people coming? (I know things can change last minute.) Note members and non-members, just to ensure we have enough members to guest-- be a bit awkward to have some guys left in the wind In the morning itself, after we know who's actually shown up, we can specify who's guesting who at that point.

I can't find the original article that had the boards and commissions listed, but here is a link to an article (that also includes a PDF of the official EO): http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2010/09/gov_chris_christie_signs_order.html

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/09/army-living-medal-of-honor-giunta-091010/ --- For the first time since the Vietnam War, a living soul will be a MOH recipient. These reports prove there are indeed still heroes in this society. There will also be a posthumous MOH awarded as well, as noted in the articles.

Kind of off topic, but kind of on topic as well... I saw the new Resident Evil: Afterlife earlier tonight... gosh, it was pretty bad, even though I had zero expectations. For what its worth, its a "fun" movie-- but rent it at best. So, add another movie to the "save your money" list (see, on topic :shifty: )

Do you have an example of what you're talking about, david8613? I'm not discounting you at all, just curious about any specific films you have in mind From my exposure to films, the firearms and how they're used in comparison to "real life" are rarely accurate. Guys like John Milius and others who get good trainers, like Dale Dye, are few. Also, most US military uniforms (and I'm sure the unis of foreign military) are rarely accurate... whether its a name tapes switched, or the flag on the wrong shoulder... etc. I've heard it was because a lot of films don't get the 'OK' technically from DOD, and have to alter the uniform. The Transformer films though have/are getting permission, and, as you would notice, are two hour advertisements

Gosh, the only exciting thing I have is my AR I'm pretty psyched at meeting everyone, and maybe tinkering around with some firearms I've never had the chance to prior. Time to break my Mosin cherry? :oops:

Cookstown Browns Mill Rd. As Maks pointed out, it has flags lined up on either side. It then breaks out into an open stretch (you might see aircraft landing/taking off on the right at McGuire). You'll then see a forest up ahead that the road continues to wind through, and that's officially entering Ft Dix property (public access road, no gates or anything)... and in this stretch, there are like a million overlapping PDs patrolling around

Of course I don't know the situation personally, but I doubt the gang was looking to kill anybody at that household specifically. If they did, I think the story would read a bit differently. As I read more and think about it more, it does seem like this should be the end of the trouble by the gang. Between the amount of press and foots up their a-- if they did "retaliate," it would be pretty bad for business.

Ha just pack the night before. That said, this is going to be ridiculously early for me too! Speaking of, what is the consensus of when to meet?