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Here's a graphic I got from a site awhile back when I was curious about the same question. Disregard the Magpul CTR stock, but it explains the dimensions and design on the left. ETA: As for buffers, you could possibly reuse the buffer you currently have. People who consistently shoot higher powered ammunition (62g+) have been recommending H/H2 buffers (heavier buffers). And for springs, that's one line of products I'm not really familiar with at all-- sorry.

To highlight what Shane said, the biggest differences I see/experience with the higher end stuff (Aimpoint, EOTech, Trijicon Reflex, Doctor Optics, etc) is that they are dead reliable. After firing thousands of rounds, beating them up, getting them wet, and regardless of the weather/temp you do it in-- they'll continue to function. The housing won't fall apart, batteries will last relatively longer (well, Aimpoint specifically in this case... my H-1 should be good on setting 7 for about 10,000 hours... for reference, my night setting is 6, my day setting is 8-10), and, most importantly to me, it will maintain zero. As Shane said, and I completely agree, if its a casual plinker, I wouldn't spend anymore then $100-150. If I am going to rely on this rifle (whether its for my own life or competition in Shane's case as well), then I want something that has proved through the years/uses will minimize that chance of failing. There are plenty of decent options out there that haven't necessarily proved themselves yet, but are on their way possibly (just need more time, and maybe another iteration IMO). Some models of Burris, C-More, and Vortex come to mind. These aren't necessarily cheap, but they aren't 400-600. For casual plinking, I have to recommend checking out Primary Arms' line of red dots (I've never tried their scopes). I beat their drum a lot, but its only because they've been absolutely fantastic to me for years. They'll also say, straight up, if you need an optic that your life depends on, go elsewhere (well, really they were referencing go with the real deal of their clones, which are Aimpoint). Still, for plinking, I've never heard issues of their units losing zero (which I could imagine is the biggest issue with plinkers). I recommend checking them out: http://www.primaryarms.com/main.sc

Very, very nice AGFL. Looks like Shane might not be the hottest commodity for when the zombies come anymore Seriously though, very nice. I really like the set up of that room too (not going to start the 'safe room' discussion in this thread).

I was going to start a new thread, but figured it was connected with this thread-- just that Ray needed to clarify his initial post (or I might be thinking of something totally else). I'm under the impression that by asking what our conditional heavy/medium/light configurations are, these correlate with the classic "mobility vs. firepower" argument (which tactics would play in to eventually, as we already have). If I'm totally off base, then I have no clue what you mean by "heavy/medium/light," haha, and that's OK. I just wanted to try and clarify because I found the designations a bit confusing.

I agree with Tim. I think people in general would get trigger happy in a free-fire zone (we are talking about literal zombies here)... so, 4-5 guys might prove to be more of a liability in the long run by eventually getting into a shoot/no-shoot situation, and stirring up the wrong nest . Personally, if I were to operate in a group, I'd want a platoon-sized element-- as long as they knew how to operate in such conditions. Otherwise, and say I'm against the grain, but I'd prefer to go solo (maybe one other person). Of course I have family to be concerned about... so, I better get them, and a couple dozen more, up to speed on SOF-discipline, LOA, bounding, and scrolling the road As for what I would choose in heavy/med/light: (metaphorically speaking... in reality, I'd be more happy with a combat boot or hiking shoe.)

I wish Surefire would make a compatible tape switch system for the G2 or 6P. I understand they want to really push their other systems (Scout series, and other combat lights)-- but consumers have been begging for one... so there is definitely a market (for Surefire to benefit from). I was really hoping for this with the latest iteration, but to no avail. Also, and this is a general question but pertains to this topic, LED lights aren't recommended to be used with IR filters, correct? I read that IR filters should be used with incandescent bulbs to be more effective-- something about LED's frequencies not being optimal. So, the G2X/6PX wouldn't be recommended, as they're both LED (and Surefire won't be releasing incandescent models IIRC). Thoughts? Shane? Anybody else with this type of knowledge?

Precious metals will be the only thing to really retain value actually. Sure, there will be more practical application for say copper and steel then silver and gold-- but long before money was ever created; it was precious metals that were the first currencies (after trade goods). Ultimately money is just a social contract. If I were to open a business and you came in with USD, I could easily say NOPE, I don't accept USD. And even if you're holding a Benjamin, which is accepted as $100 in most places, it would just be a piece of printed paper to me. Precious metals on the other hand will always be a precious metal, regardless of what the market says (the value of course can change with supply and demand... like any other trade good). Also, silver and gold, in different forms, have more use then just currency-- but to "cure" certain ailments (that's of course a more specialized type though).

I believe there was talk of Surefire discontinuing their G2 and 6P series of lights (reason for the LAPG closeout sale the other week). Well, Surefire has unveiled the new iterations of both: http://www.surefire.com/G2X6PXCampaign There will be the single output "tactical" version (200 lumens only) with the classic Surefire tail cap (push for momentary and twist-on). MSRP: $55 The dual output "pro" version (200 high/15 low) has the click-switch tail cap. MSRP: $65 (The main difference between the G2X and 6PX is that one is polymer and the other aluminum). Personally, I am glad Surefire followed through with this move. Most of the community that needs torches for every day use had been asking for a light with at least 120 lumens, and they answered with 200. Run time is pretty good at 2hrs (@200 lumens), and runs on two C123As. The design looks like it got a minor face lift as well, though equally as bland. Anybody have one already that is willing to share a quick review? If I can budget it in, I'll try to get one ASAP and review it if no one has by then.

Welcome, another quasi-lurker emerges from the shadows!

My understanding of zeroing in at least iron sights is that an operator zeroes the sights to the rifle, and not necessarily the person to the rifle. What I was taught was there could be some slight differences, but if one person were to zero five different rifles-- then five different people can easily qualify with any of those rifles (on an Army marksmanship test).

Rather our hands then the barrel retaining the heat? Haha. Mine does the same thing (and they cost a leg), I just wear a glove (or should). That really is a unique looking AR though-- good stuff.

It can accommodate both .223 and 5.56, yes, but because the chamber is tighter and the overpressure of firing 5.56 in .223, it can cause catastrophic malfunctions (not that it will). Generally speaking, it seems most manufacturers don't have issues, notably WOA (but of course not all manufacturers are equal). However, it can cause casings to get stuck in the chamber, or even pop the primers out. So, some that have a wylde barrel do end up reaming the chamber (and there are plenty of smiths who offer this service). ETA: I wasn't trying to make a blanket statement initially-- just a forewarning for those who are chambered or were thinking of being chambered in .223.

What ammo/load are you planning on putting through it to test it out? I haven't tried to prove my rifle is a tack-driver, and haven't done any bench-rest shooting-- so, its beyond me-- but I was curious. As for the packaging being tough-- at least you know no one else got to it . I was so worried when I got my upper because it had a huge 'BCM' on the outside of the box (name of the manufacturer), but no issues there either.

I think the argument that Shane pointed out, and I along with many others, that a rifle built around the piston design-- and not a rifle with a piston design forced into it-- is what turns us off tremendously from AR-variants that utilize the piston system. I don't mean for this to be anything of a thread jack, but instead to point out why I, and maybe some others, think you should steer clear of AR's that utilize a piston system simply for the sake of utilizing them. If you want a piston rifle, get any of those rifles that Shane pointed out. If you want an AR, get a tried and true (and urban-legend debunked) DI rifle. Though, ultimately, your choice

Looks really good. What optics are/will/have you being put on top? As for the guess, I'm going to go with a flat 9lbs. ETA: Ha, my fast replies aren't really fast at all. So, I'll give it to whoever else was closer.

Ah, thats right, we had this conversation on the forum actually. I stand corrected. Still, I wouldn't touch it. Far better options out there, and, no, I'm not sold on gas piston. No need to bring up that debate again though in this specific thread.

Oh wow, finally! Is this date stamped in for real? Haha. I'm kidding, I believe you... its just surreal that these finally are dated. I might have to re-think my next upper... Only asking because I'm curious: Any word on the FDE version? Ah, one more edit: Do you mean Monday, 10/4?

Yea, we corrected the notion that the 516 was NOT piston driven like the 556 in the following posts. Though, personally, I wouldn't touch the 516 yet... I've heard its nice, but I'd rather go with more established/credible manufacturers (for direct impingement rifles at least. I would've rather Sig done something more with their 556 models then create a 516... but that's a different argument). As for the ACR, I agree that it hasn't had enough user time to get a variety of feedback. But the fact that its 1x9 isn't a huge deal, and IIRC they CL the barrel and chamber. Now, the reason why I'm not concerned about the fact that its 1x9 is because you can pick whether or not you want a 1x9 or 1x7 barrel. Here's the catch, and my biggest reason of why I don't want an ACR yet, there are no aftermarket parts that are readily available yet! I don't give a crud about stocks or hand guards (which are available on Bushmaster site). I'm concerned about the innards, the moving parts, etc. Being able to swap out a barrel (whether that's for a 1x7 16'', 14.5'', 18'', or 20'') is one of their huge selling points, but is a moot fact as they are not readily available yet. Also, I prefer to keep an extra bolt (with everything else) on hand-- not necessarily possible yet. As for the weight, I believe its actually closer to 7.5lb, or maybe closer to 8lb flat (depending on which model)... Bushmaster has it listed at 7.3lb, but I've heard different. Still, I think its going to be pretty awesome in the next iteration... and hopefully the price will come down to the projected "every day man's rifle" MSRP, as they touted... As for Wylde barrels, they can be reamed to accept 5.56. If you opt to go the DI route for ARs, my only suggestion is to look at 14.5'' or 16'' Mid-length gas systems (all the rage right now) or even the dissipator models (rifle length hand guards/sight radius on a 16'' barrel). Both utilize the mid length gas system I believe, which, for the system is less wear and tear. It also shoots softer, and if you're using irons strictly-- it has a longer sight radius (which you, like me, might be use to as we trained up on 20'' M16s).

Oh, Pete, we'd be lost without you! Haha thanks for the head's up though, seeing how my area is prone to flooding

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To criticize in a constructive manner for the greater benefit would be OK with me. This happens every day when the forum, as a whole and individuals, try to make sense of certain aspects of our NJ gun laws. Its done in a courteous and non-militant manner. There is a civility to it, and while not everyone is on the same page-- information is shared, whether those are facts or personal accounts. However, simply saying you hate something for the sake of hating it; and everybody else should hate it because you hate it is not constructive. Its not even close to constructive. Earlier the posts deleted were in reference to the NWA song that is simply hostile to LEOs. Was there anything constructive about your, Babaganoosh, post? No. It was simply insulting to me. Your following rant again is pointless as it offers nothing constructive, but only is intended to be insulting. Your relevant, personal experiences with LEO is of no concern of mine, nor the communities. As for civility, it is prudent to respect everyone-- not just LEO and other first responders. I've never advocated "bashing" on politicians, illegal immigrants, or zombies (well, physically bashing zombies :ph34r:). Posts that are simply typed in spite of a group of people is hateful, and that is not the direction or goals of this community (and will be handled accordingly). This is going to be my only attempt at explaining why civility is important. If you don't agree with that, I'm sure there are other forums that can be accommodating. Any other posts in response to mine will be deleted. If you have any questions pertaining to my post, PM me personally. Thanks. Otherwise, lets get back on topic.

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Maksim's note at the end of his post wasn't in effect of you, FFDP82. In fact, it was in response/conjunction with what I had posted prior because someone else had posted something that I found to be offensive in that it was purely anti-LEO (with no justification, etc). I don't understand where you're getting this notion that we thought you were being a cop-basher. If you had, we would've taken action with your posts already and/or warned you regarding it. So, carry on as you will.

This is a good topic, as it serves to remind the community that sometimes your respective police departments might not have the correct policies in effect. However, I won't let this become a cop-bashing thread. My only warning.

Thanks for the head's up-- I passed the word on to my local friends and family. This really is some crazy weather lately. Reminds me of the earthquake thread we had awhile back