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Nice, if I wasn't saving myself for a P229, I'd be all over a Beretta.

Awesome, thanks for taking the time to interact with the consumers. I have two things that make me :| when I look at the design. I know everything is preference, and no one is forcing me to use the product-- just want to make that clear so it doesn't sound like I'm judging (as my disclaimer). 1. How does the grip affect trigger squeeze? I know that its dependent on the user, but, on average, would the user have to possibly re-adjust their grip to accommodate a good trigger squeeze? 2. I personally run the system on the inside of my shoulder-pit area moreso on my chest-- would this type of style make it difficult for positive cheek-to-stock, or would it not matter?

I knew you would say something about the CAA VFG, Pete! Its the reason why I included the hand-stop comment, haha. A few times a week, I consider either putting the AFG back on for another shot or ordering a KAC hand-stop... but I can never get myself to do it considering the CAA does the job for a third of the price of the KAC! I'm skeptical about the Redi-Mag, and if anything it'll require months of training to get comfortable with it (in combination with the BAD lever). I know its bulky, but I didn't feel like spending $90 more on the version Blue Forces Gear sells (which is the skeleton version of the Redi-Mag). But if I can get use to it, its a weight worth having on the system.

Here's some photos of my new upper on my old lower. Was taken from my iPhone as my old camera decided to stop working after its vacation to the Bahamas. I will get a better res picture sometime in the near future. Specs: BCM 14.5'' bbl w/ perm attached Troy Medieval Muzzle Brake BCM BCG Smith and Wesson MP15 lower, stock parts. Sully Stock w/ Tango Down PR-16A4 sling attachment DD Omega 7.0 w/ CAA VFG (used as a hand stop) PIG MK-1 sling BCMGunfighter CH w/ Mod-4 (medium latch) Magpul MBUS rear sight DD off-set light mount w/ Surefire G2 EOTech 517.A65 Magpul PMag (from AnA) 15-rd in 20-rd body On order: Redi-Mag and Magpul BAD lever

Here are some terrible photos from my iPhone of the pin/weld job and removing of bayo lug courtesy of ADCO: Pin/weld mark-- blatantly obvious. The device is the Troy Medieval Muzzle Brake Where the bayo lug was... REALLY nice finish.

I had ADCO do the work on my upper from the last week of Feb, and got it the first Friday of this month. The FAQ on their site hasn't changed since I got the work done-- so, I think the process is still the same.

I forgot to ask, if you're just having the muzzle device pinned, have you inquired with anybody in NJ? I think PK90 does that type of smithing (though you would have to confirm with him). It would sure beat shipping it to Ohio and back.

You won't be charged for anything until they have finished. When they are done and have sent back your item, they will charge you for the service and the shipping at the time (though, you do provide your information prior when placing the order). Just make sure everything is detailed-- though, if you do forget something, just email Steve and he'll add it on to your order. When I ordered my upper from BCM and had it sent directly to ADCO, I forgot to include what muzzle device I wanted them to pin on! They're really quick too. Between ordering from BCM; shipping from BCM to ADCO; ADCO receiving and doing the work (pin/weld, remove bayo lug); ADCO shipping it to me-- it took about a week and a half total to get to my doorstep.

I'm not freaking out per se. Its just troubling that it happened in such a way with nothing more then a whimper in appeal (metaphorically-- of course there was a lot of press, but it really didn't seem to stop the momentum much; nor did the public opinion's opinion matter much). I do have optimism in this aftermath that it will be ultimately different in the end though... whether through refinements or whatnot.

I am seriously irked. I think everyone had that pit in their stomach, knowing that this would pass. But what bothers me is the realization of what this thread is titled. This really is a socialist nation now. Let that sink in. What now? Or better yet, what's next? I think that last bit of liberalism in me was gouged out by those hypocrites in DC tonight.

What's the address also? I can't seem to find it anywhere.

Nice. Definitely get backup sights... or optics (though I would recommend both-- or at least irons at the minimum). Troy Industries, Yankee Hill Machine (YHM), GG&G are a few names. I personally used Magpul MBUS (both front and rear) for my MP15 upper. Though, because the MBUS system is polymer, its noted that users should not put it on the railed gas block because the MBUS front sight system could melt. I put mine on the railed handguards right in front of the railed gas block to accommodate (I've switched out my upper since). Regarding front sights, folding or fixed, it doesn't really matter. As for the rear sight, I would recommend folding, unless you're going to run strictly a 1x optic (red dots)... but having a folding rear sight gives you a lot of flexibility (especially if you get a magnifier for the red dot system, or if you decide to run glass optics). Best of luck, feel free to ask if you have any other questions-- and enjoy your AR.

Outstanding, thanks, Maks. I don't mind waiting a bit, but some of the things I've read on other forums sounded a bit extreme (two hour waits, etc). Since the weather is getting better, why not shoot outside? And since I'm primarily a rifle guy, I always feel cooped up shooting indoors . Do you guys still do the meet ups on Wednesdays?

Looks legal to me too. I'm not a ballistics person by any means, but for the longer barrels, don't people want something like a 1x8 twist, or would 1x9 be just fine? I'm probably speaking out of my butt though, so my bad. I know how to use them, but the specifics I'm still learning

Gosh, I really need to get out there. Aside from weekends, which from all indications are busy, how is it during the weekday? Also, what days is the range open? I tried accessing their site, but it doesn't seem to be around currently. From what I have gathered, the schedule was: Wednesday (1-8pm), Friday (1-8pm), Saturday and Sunday (8am-4pm)-- is it still the same? I've also read its relatively not busy during the Spring/Summer, but a madhouse prior to hunting season... true? And, lastly, regarding targets in general-- anything goes as long as its not glass or whatnot, correct? I'm thinking about just getting some real estate sign holders from a hardware store, and retrofitting those to be target stand worthy. Oh, and to clarify, $60 for membership and $3 an hour, correct? And you can sign up/pay and shoot on the same day? If so, I might have to go this Wednesday... Dangit, one more thing. What do they, the range, consider "weather permitting" since its an outdoor range and all?

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Its been creeping into my area too, though its normally suburbanites looking for some trouble because they're bored. There have been some distributors busted by the police a few times, but nothing too series (/knocks on wood). Then of course, not to sound condescending, this is the greater Princeton area, and if there was actual gang violence in these parts, I'm pretty sure the deck of cards that is NJ would have fallen before that point. With that said, I mean habitual gang violence. There have been issues of people getting jumped with weapons, and cars and houses being broken in to. But nothing like Trenton or the part of Hamilton that borders Trenton... though that is only a few miles down Rt. 1. Personally, when I watch shows like Gangland, it really does make my blood boil. While I do not advocate breaking the law [ever] for the sake of keeping the law (aka vigilantism), something more has to be done before the scum overtakes the last bastions of decency. I would be the first person on this forum to talk about solving it from the social aspect (haha, I think I've created that image of myself)... but to some point, action must be taken. Personal responsibility and accountability are long term solutions... gang violence/influence/affliction spreading exponentially is a short term issue that must have been addressed yesterday. I'm not 100% familiar with RICO, but could it ever apply to street gangs? Has the law tried too? I'm not judging here, I'm just curious. While I do advocate action, I do not advocate taking away personal liberties (as hard as it is to swallow that down when applying it to scum like gangsters)... and pushing the boundaries too far is just as bad (seeing how the law always leaves things open for interpretation to screw everyone at the end of the day). Unfortunately, all I can do for now is, "speak courteously, deal fairly, and keep ourselves [myself] armed and ready."

Welcome. How do you like the .40 in a polymer framed pistol? I only ask because its usually a topic of discussion.

Welcome.

Woah, that's a pretty interesting design. For my AR used for HD, I'll stick to my current design... but for a possible DMR build, that would be darn useful I think. Nice find, thanks for sharing.

Hey, welcome aboard. If I may inquire, what do you shoot?

Ha, I'm sure Maks isn't upset. As for the 15-22... *flame shield on*... I'm just not a big fan of .22lr black rifles in general. I do think they are a better alternative for training/fun then conversion kits, which have a tendency to muck up the system (unless you get a dedicated .22 upper, like the one Spikes has). However, I just feel like something about the whole system is... lacking. But that's just me. But to stay on topic... regarding the SW MP 15-22, I toyed with one at the shop (haven't shot it), and it felt pretty good, though the weight still made it feel somewhat uncomfortable for me. As Maks pointed out, it is the "best in class," when comparing it to Ruger and Colt's attempts at AR's in .22LR. THOUGH, I've also heard a lot of good things about Sig's 522, which is their version... haven't seen one yet in person though. I guess what bothers me is that you know you want an AR, though you haven't found one for the right price-- and that's understandable. However, if you do some more research, maybe figure out what it is that you want to accomplish with it (its applied use, etc)... then maybe you can piece things together and come up with a decent estimate. AR prices these days, last I checked, aren't too bad. And if you opted to put one together, in maybe a complete upper and complete lower configuration (bought separately)-- it still might be cheaper then you'd expect... not to mention you could get exactly what you're looking for without getting a stock NJ-compliant model. I bought an upper from BCM for $425, sent it to ADCO for aftermarket work (remove bayo lug, pin/weld muzzle device) for about $100 more (a little less actually)... and then a complete lower from BCM runs about $360 (not including NICS/tax fees for transfer) or around $300 at Spikes Tactical right now (both of which could be configured to be NJ compliant). Grand total is around $800-900, which is comparable to the price of NJ compliant models out there. As for accessories, whether its for the 15-22 or AR, they really are just money pits . For cheap optics, I would actually recommend Primary Arms (http://www.primaryarms.com/category.sc?categoryId=64). They have their own line of high quality clones... red dots and glass alike. Great guys to deal with too, and super fast shipping.

http://rrages.com/magazine/15-22/index.htm I want to say someone's posted this previously, ha, but I'm not sure.

Ahaha, oh man, I need to work on my uppercutting skills for those close combat zombies. Having a diverse bunch of rounds isn't always a bad thing, especially if a person is "bugging in" (staying in a static location). Usage aside (in terms of firearms), it could have a lot of trading value down the road. Having all the ammo in the world is no good if you can't get clean water or the right food. On the other hand, I'll streamline the types of rounds I have because if SHTF, I wouldn't expect to stay anywhere too long (occupational hazard with the world ending and all :roll: ), and trying to lug around five different types of rounds doesn't seem like much fun.

I'm in my 20's, and I think its a matter of both. Without enjoying the little things, people grow up lacking certain social experiences. Personally, my legacy is the most important thing to me, so I already have some things set up... but when I think about it too much, do I really want to end up a hobbled old man who chose to be too conservative in my actions? Eh. Its not a matter of embellishing in my youth (like the people in their upper 20's, early 30's who still go to the club ), its the thought that I would not be able to keep up with my own standard. Unless I end up like Indiana Jones Sr. (Sean Connery style), I am going to be so terribly bored.