Joelk

I thought some of you might find this article by Craig Sawyer on "The Similarities and Differences of Civilian Competition and Combat Shooting" interesting. LINK to article

In theory they carry them HERE, but they are never is stock. They rarely show up on the used market. I don't know if Southnarc plans to do another run or what?

I agree that there is no prohibition against a fixed blade knife, but depending on the knife you are much more likely to run into trouble with some officers. I would also prefer a fixed blade, I like the Shivworks Clinch Pick myself, which brings me to another point. I would be hesitant to carry any knife that I would be upset if an officer decided to confiscate, thus I try to keep my carry knives under $100, which rules out the Clinch Pick. I wish I could find something similar for under $100. I have been playing with an Izula, but I don't like the sheath, and the grip pokes my fat belly.

Think about this ... If an officer decides it is a weapon, you can still get arrested, have to get bailed out, get a lawyer, go to court, and maybe the judge will agree with you

I agree with you on that Alex. As to the prevalence of LE vs. non LE negligent discharges, it is anecdotal, but I have only known one person who negligently shot someone (himself, while getting ready to clean a Glock). He was a good officer and family man, and I am sad we lost him. I do know someone else who had a negligent discharge (not LE). He admits to having his finger on the trigger, but at least the gun was pointed in a safe direction and he only shot his floor and a basement water pipe.

It is a good drill, and conveniently uses exactly one box of ammo.

I agree Dan. The part that sucks the most is that if they decide to go after you, for whatever reason, even if you are completely legal and eventually are proved so in court, you may well still go broke defending yourself

Sorry to throw a wrench into your logic, but the problem with your statement is that 2C:39-1 says "Avtomat Kalashnikov type semi-automatic firearms", but "Colt AR-15 and CAR-15 series". It is funny how some guns, including the M1 carbine, use type, while others are specifically named. Unfortunately, it makes the whole situation even muddier, and more open to AG interpretation.

I have talked to Tosser, and he has convinced me to help out with this force on force event. I can tell you that it is not going to be any kind of study or competition. There are going to be a few drills which will focus on some of the differences between competitive and combative points of view. Participants will run the drills and take from it what they will. I can give a few hints as to the two drills that I will be assisting with. One will be a use of cover drill, which will require the shooter (airsoft) to use a piece of cover to shoot a target. This should sound pretty familiar, but one twist is that there will be return fire (airsoft) from the target. The other drill I will be helping with pertains to managing unknown contacts. This drill will start with the participant walking down the street with his/her weapon being carried (open or concealed) and dealing with various people on the street. The people may, or may not, be friendly, indifferent, hostile, or even violent. In this drill participants may face anything from harsh language to physical violence. That is all I can share at this point. I am not sure what else Tosser has planned for your entertainment (shoot house?), but I am sure it will be fun too.

Send it to ADCO, they do good work with a quick turnaround.

Thanks, and I hope it meets your expectations. I have gone over to Lone Wolf barrels (when straying from Glock) as they seem to meet my requirements for feeding anything, even Wolf, shooting lead and jacketed well, and working with suppressors (of course not in NJ, but at my other place in MD). Edited to add: In my G23 with a Lone Wolf 9mm threaded conversion barrel, it will feed everything, but 2 weeks ago, when I loaned it to a student, I learned that when it is very dirty it will fail to extract (it ripped the rim off of) plastic dummy rounds. I hope Cameron of GAPP doesn't read this, as I hate to admit to him that I have learned how to make a Glock as "reliable" as a Kimber

I bet that just owning that "gamer" gun will get you killed I am curious how you like your KKM barrel, as my 10mm (model 20) KKM has such a tight chamber that it often fails to feed properly with factory ammo, but works fine with my well crimped reloads.

MedicYeti, if you feel like driving up to my house you are welcome to all of my AR tools, and any assistance I can provide. I will remove the barrel for you, and I agree that once the barrel is out I am sure we can get the case and rod out. Just let me know if I can be of assistance.

Most of the time a few light taps with a cleaning rod will knock it out. If the extractor is grabing at all, pull back on the charging handle while tapping with a rod from the muzzle.

I may be way off here, but I don't think Tosser is planning on any "data collection/evaluation", and I don't think there are any contestants, or anyone judging performance. I think he is just planning on running some FOF drills and/or FOF scenarios, and letting people see what happens.

I agree.

Congratulations!

I guess I would define safe as causing no premanant injuries, or requiring medical atention. It needs to hurt, as the pain penalty is one of the best things about FOF to help create stress, and encourage good tactics. If it doesn't hurt no one cares when they get shot, and then they act like it is a game, not training. That is why I like Sims, as people try a LOT harder to not get shot with Sims, and thus it is more realistic.

I have no idea what FPS my gas powered airsoft pistol shoots, nor what FPS is considered "safe". I just bought it, loaded it up, and used it for FOF. I have seen lots of bloody knuckles and bruises, but no real injuries. It definitely hurts less than Sims though I think everything Tosser has planned with be at relatively close ranges.

Sims would definitely require a good quality full mask.

I don't blame them for trying. I just found it funny as I knew what they were going to try from hearing their questions to the stage staff, and that what they tried was in direct contradiction to the written rules for the event. I must admit that I was a bit of a dick (what a surprise ) and reminded the team member who was either in law school at the time, or who had just graduated, of the parole evidence rule. The rest of the team were really good guys, and I felt bad for them. It was, however, a pleasure to be squaded with the best two teams that day, watch them shoot, and to try to learn what I could from it. Edited to add: I agree with your statement about life having no rules to a degree as, unfortunately, we hage too many legal rules to comply with, but competition does have rules, and I guess those rules are a part of what this thread is about

I never said you were unwilling, it just seems like most of the competition crowd just wants to recreate competition. This has changed my opinion of competition shooters, and I now think that their biggest flaw is the mindset that competition is of any benefit at all in real self defense scenarios, and that they are prepared to defend themselves. I think that they need to do some research on how criminals act, the distances involved, etc. Believe me, I don't even think I am a big fish in a small pond, I have trained with too many people who have left me aspiring to become a minnow. As to real street crime, the video I posted is from a class taught by a police officer, with many years of undercover expierience, based on what he has distilled from those expieriences.

Vlad, I am not accusing you of being a liar of cheater. However, when I shot a 3 gun match in PA last year I was squaded with team Noveske and I watched them attempt to cheat/streatch the rules on a stage, be penalized for it, and then one of their members argued and cried like a little **** when the match staff called them on it. This did not leave me with a high opinion of some competitors integrity.

I can be available for either date, just let me know a couple weeks ahead of time,

Have you ever been shot with Sims (which I offered)? LE and the Military find it adequate to simulate gunshot wounds in training. If you would rather just use airsoft we can use the honor system, where people say when they are shot. That works just fine in a training scenario, but you can tell me if the competition crowd would honorably say when they were hit?