DevsAdvocate

If there is anything we can learn from Chris Dorner: it's how effective one guy with a rifle and some training can be. Imagine if he didn't reveal that he was the one doing this stuff, and pulled a similar thing to the DC sniper? Taking out targets, waiting in ambush... One man can really give a police force a hard time if they wanted to. Cops would have to choose between splitting up and trying to track them down, or sticking together and covering less territory for safety.

Honestly, a committee comprised of 8 Democrats and 3 Republicans? Are they any more likely to read a short email versus a long on in favor of gun rights?

Hey, are you guys posting your mailing address as well? You know, to show you live in NJ?

My response: Dear Members of the State Assembly Committee on Law and Public Safety, My name is Devs. I have lived in this state for 25 years and am a gun owner for 4 of those years since I turned 21. It was with great joy that I was able to exercise my gun rights and to follow in the footsteps of my father and his grandfather in the pursuit of firearms ownership for any and all legal reasons, ranging from hunting, to home defense, and to exercising a freedom intended to protect our nation from the rise of tyranny. I should also note that I am a law abiding citizen, I do my best to stay within the confines of both State and Federal Laws regarding firearms, despite the confusing language and logic behind them. We're a State which requires a Firearms Purchaser ID Card to purchase ammunition (in store and online) and long weapons. We're a State that has Pistol Purchase Permits and One Handgun per Month in place, along with a magazine limitation of 15 rounds, and an Assault Weapons Ban on cosmetic features commonly found on weapons. Yet, there is a push within both the Assembly and Senate to add more restrictions which are likely to accomplish nothing. Let me make my position clear: Not only do I object to the new proposed laws, I also reject the laws in place as being onerous and ineffective. Not to mention a drain on State resources. 1. The Firearms ID Card and Pistol Purchase Permit system is hopelessly out of date in an era where the National Instant Background Check exists. In the majority of American States, a positive form of ID is all that is required to purchase a handgun and receive a background check. In NJ, there is no need to waste the resources of local and State police to file paperwork and process applications. 2. The 15 round magazine limit is far too restrictive and punishes law abiding citizens for no logical or rational reason. Why are 15 bullets okay, but not 16? Or 20? Or 30? What is the reasoning here? Furthermore, what is stopping a criminal from leaving NJ and procuring magazines elsewhere and bringing them here? If one wishes to have a magazine limit then tie them to the commission of a crime while using them, similar to how the use of hollowpoint ammunition carries an additional penalty when committing a crime. 3. The Assault Weapons Ban is a farce which only deals with cosmetic characteristics. A NJ "legal" version of a rifle is no more safer than one classified as an assault weapon in any functional way. It it obvious that this ban is nothing more than a burden on the gun owners of New Jersey, and seeks merely to prohibit them from owning weapons which are legal elsewhere. 4. New Jersey is following behind the rest of the nation as concealed carry becomes more widespread and mainstream. In States like Utah, Pennsylvania, Washington, Oregon and 38 other States, citizens are trusted to carry firearms on them for the defense of their life, the lives of their loved ones, and other innocents. It is common knowledge that mass shooters in Columbine, Virginia Tech, Aurora, and even Sandy Hook chose their targets knowing that there would be no armed response. They took 'Gun Free Zones' as open invitations to commit mass violence. Concealed carry will inhibit this, as it has in places like Utah, where teachers, principles, and even students (college and adult) are allowed to carry in their school. It is my belief that the People of New Jersey are good, hard working, and honest folks who deserve the same ability to exercise their Civil Rights as their neighbors west of the Delaware River. I mean the State house is in a city which is right on that river. From your window, you can look across and see a State where the People are not prematurely considered to be criminals and should have their rights curtailed. We deserve the same respect they get from their government from you folks in the State House. Please, reject these proposed pieces of legislation, and work to rehabilitate our State's broken and useless firearms laws. Thank you, -Devs

Prices for AK variants doesn't seem to be staying very high. WASR-10s on GB usually go for around $700-800 now.

They have control in both houses and the governorship... is there much of a doubt?

Basically: Possession of hollow point bullets and similar assault bullets a felony. Possession of more than 500 rounds of ammo a felony. 6 round magazine limit ALL magazines must be fixed to the gun (can not be removed without the use of a tool) 100% prohibition of all magazines greater than 10 rounds. All previous grandfathered magazines become illegal. Felony if you keep one. Changing definition of shotgun revolving cylinder — Basically only single shot shotguns will remain legal. Bullet Buttons will become illegal — All AR and AK style rifles that are currently equipped with them will be designated Assault Weapons. Felony to possess. All gun owners now must be licensed like drivers. All gun owners must carry gun liability insurance

At least we're getting some attention in the local media and getting our sides' message out. This, being better than doing nothing.

A quick roundup of this week's NJ pro-gun news. The NJ SAFE thing is pretty well-known, but the principal in Passaic getting a CCW is interesting... http://in-defense-of-liberty.com/2013/02/07/good-news-from-new-jersey/

Maybe because you cops are constantly up in other people's business? :-P Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

If he was looking to do harm, he'd be doing it. It's pretty easy to tell if someone is acting in a threatening manner... pointing a rifle at people? Okay, threatening. Carrying it slung over your shoulder? NBD. Only in NJ/NYC is this a 'big deal', which is quite sad.

Threat to whom?

I have no idea what you're trying to say...

Oh please, don't use the 'potential actual emergency' line. The cops could've easily walked away and done more important things, like actually catch real criminals, and not regular people exercising their rights.

Why is attention seeking wrong? Especially if its being used to draw attention to things worth drawing attention to?

fugg that, he owned a metal box with a spring in it, the law is wrong.

I got one of these for my 930 to make it a 6+1, but its parked, not blued. I kinda want it blued.

Eh, he's innocent, he broke no legal law.

What kind of long guns are available there? Can you get full autos?

I feel like this is one of those books which gets you on an FBI terrorist watch list or something...

Gouging can only happen if the item is an essential good (even I disagree with the term). None of the items in the NJGF marketplace are technically 'essential'.

Look, no one is putting a gun to someone's head and forcing them to pay these prices. It's also not something they need to have. So to call it gouging is unfair. As for being reasonable: for who? The other guy or yourself? If someone wants an AK badly enough that they'll drop $2100 on it, so be it. Some people have deep pockets and don't care. My issue with you is that your being annoying and unreasonable to other folks here. The WTS/WTT section is not a charity, it's not freecycle, etc. It's a marketplace. Things go for what they're worth, or they don't. You're only crying about it because prices shocked, but fundamentally, this makes no difference. If someone wants to register just to sell a $450 upper and nets $1400 for it, so be it. Someone obviously had the money sitting around to buy it, and I have no problem with that.

Posts like these make me want to sell my rare yet highly sought after firearms at above current market rates. Mainly just to piss off the OP. If you don't like the price someone offers you, then walk the fugg away. Not everyone has the same mindset or amount of money you do. Fun story: at the Allentown gun show this weekend, I was spitballing selling one of my WASR-10s with some guy from NJ, he was willing to drop a lot of dough just to get one in 'NJ-legal' config. Prices are what prices are. As for doing the good deed, the day BEFORE the Sandy Hook shooting, I agreed to sell an complete BCM AR-15 I had to a friend at market rates. Rifle cost me like $1100 to build. But I sold it at the price I agreed to (which was quite a bit less) even though I could've canceled on him. This was when these rifles (of lesser quality IMO) were flying off the shelves here in the state.

Can you get reasonably priced reloading components now? I thought panic buying raises all boats equally?

Any word on LR20s??