DevsAdvocate

So if I'm reading that thread correctly... 1. I use my one permit to buy my Glock 30SF. 2. Then get the Form SP 015 and fill that out for my repaired gun and give an SP 016 to my FFL to complete. 3. FFL sends forms in. 4. Await approval. 5. Get approved. 6. Take guns home. Or should I put my repaired gun and Glock 30SF on one exemption form and just do it that way?

Hey guys, question regarding multiple handgun purchase exemption: 1. I have 4 pistol permits ready to be picked up on Friday 2. I have one handgun sitting at the FFL that just came back from the manufacturer... they exchanged the frame for a new one, so now it has a new s/n hence the need for a PP to get it back. 3. I'd like to buy a Glock 30SF (saved funds for it) from a different FFL than in #2 Can I use the multiple handgun exemption to OGAM to get both? How do I do this? Thanks, -DA

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/general/zombie.aspx?sp_rid=MjM3MDQyOTc2MzcS1&sp_mid=3700686 Thought it was an interesting email to receive today.

I have this one. Great gun. Barrels are a breeze to change.

They should dispense with the bs and just try to pass a National Carry Act and just give Federal Permission to carry firearms.

Oh, agreed. But a collapsible stock on a 12ga pump shotgun being construed as circumventing the law? I don't think one has to be that paranoid about the law. I mean, has there ever been a case in NJ that was tried on the merits of 'constructive possession'? Me thinks that there probably never was as it is a pain to prove and is hardly worth the Gov'ts time and effort to prosecute. Remember, these guys don't like making too much work for themselves and always go for the lowest hanging fruit. Police and prosecutors alike are still gov't workers.

Why is NJ so expensive compared to PA? The club I joined out there is only $25 for the first year and $20 after that. They even hold monthly raffles where the winner gets a rifle/shotgun (after a $25 entry fee). AND they have fully stocked fishing ponds. Is it something with NJ's taxes? Environmental remediation policies? Liability? I only ask because if I have to drive an hour to CR and pay $132/yr or drive an hour + 20min out into PA and pay $20/yr (and be within 15 minutes of Cabelas) then it's an easy choice (for me). If I had a range 10 minutes away though, then maybe I wouldn't mind paying more... but equidistant, then I go for what's cheaper.

Meh. I'm starting not to care about these BS rules... Odds are, the only way to get in trouble is to commit a felony or domestic violence, have the police seize your firearms, and then have the DA go through and see what they can charge you with based on what you got. Chances are, even if you are in full compliance, they'll find a way to make it seem like you're out of compliance (there are so many grey areas that it doesn't even matter). Either way, you're pretty much screwed... you spend a lot in legal fees and win (but still lose your guns) or you spend a lot of legal fees and lose (and go to jail). So basically, you need to draw the ire of the 'Eye of Sauron' (aka the Po Po) to worry about this stuff and make it worthwhile for the police to file a shred of paperwork on you. If you keep your nose clean, don't act like a moron, and don't commit any felonies, you really have nothing to worry about. Just make the attempt to stay within the law, this way if someone questions you, you can say that you tried your best to comply with what is a set of poorly defined rules. Living in this state (and by extension: this country) is turning me into a bit of a fatalist... you're damned if you do, and you're damned if you don't. Especially in regards to the possession and use of firearms.

Yepp. This is our workaround.

If you don't like it, then go to PA and shoot. Oh wait, they have cameras at their ranges too... Guess what Creeper, those cameras aren't part of some grand left-wing conspiracy, they're for your safety, and to protect your club from frivolous lawsuits. See, things like suicides, murders, robberies, and theft occur at shooting ranges. In fact, at my range, someone recently had his rifle stolen while out at the 300 yard range. Two dude just drove up, grabbed his rifle and took off. A camera would've been nice to get some plates off the vehicle they used to report to the police. And they are contemplating that decision right now...

Can Texas just invade us depose our government and establish a freedom-loving democracy?

Ban by name must be done via legislature...

It's in the wonderful part of the law where the law simply did not cover... the loophole.

Just buy them. Don't ask the NJSP for permission prior or they may rule to take them away!

Don't most guns have a feature like that?

It isn't??? Well that's fucked up!

http://azstarnet.com/news/local/border/article_9fb9f854-ef6e-11e0-9635-001cc4c002e0.html#ixzz1a29CtgEr "The 2004 incident occurred close to a wash near Douglas when Barnett approached a group of 16 illegal immigrants while he was carrying a gun and accompanied by a large dog. Attorneys for the plaintiffs — five women and 11 men who had crossed into the U.S. illegally — say that Barnett held the group captive at gunpoint, threatening that his dog would attack and that he would shoot anyone who tried to escape." So these folks jump the border illegally (felony), trespass on this guy's land (misdemeanor?), he catches them, holds them at gun point until CBP arrives, and he's the one who has to pay? Ridiculous!

Nope. 7.62 NATO has a longer casing than 7.62 WP... It wouldn't even fit in the mag.

What gets me is the stats on the M14... I mean, yeah, 750 rounds/min... if you're using it as an AA gun. And the M-16 and M-4 are not really that effective at 600+m... I'd put that at like 200-300m realistically. Unless you're aiming at a mannequin on a calm clear day with a straight line of sight...

BWE is back for the new season, anyone catch the last two episodes?

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Chances are it'll search for water to die in as the bullets and resulting infection/fever will kill it.

Glock 19 + 2 mags on the belt and 3 in my pack.

I'm prolly gonna throw my synthetic forend and stock back on for now when I get the Mesa Tactical. The wood is too nice to beat up on that thing.

Taking a case to court and losing, especially in front of SCOTUS can do a lot more harm to the cause than good. The AWB is the last thing that should be tackled in the grand scheme of gun infringement schemes. Concealed carry is our stepping stone to get there though, as is a measured approach analyzing legislation line by line and winning the arguments at each step of the way.