mikelets456

They'll make sure it is NOT reported on the MSM and their outlets.

Part of text from HR822: "Conduct a study of the ability of State and local law enforcement authorities to verify the validity of licenses or permits, issued by other States, to carry a concealed firearm." Wait, I thought it was illegal to do this to "illegal aliens"!!!!????? But they can do this to law abiding citizens? Am I reading this wrong?

I carry pepper spray (Pepper blaster II by Kimber)... from Midway USA. It's something that is unexpected and if it can buy me 3-10 seconds, well that is better than nothing. I bought some for my daughter and wife as well. I guess I have to make due in the meantime until either they sort this out or we have no choice but to carry.Back to carry, I believe GOOD, honest citizens of the USA will never pull out their firearm unless they absolutely have to. Please don't under-estimate the majority of US citizens. We are a country (great majority) that are honest and willing to help first and pull a firearm if only there is no possibility for escape. Maks,onto what you were saying about "unsafe" areas: I am seeing more and more things that concern me. Just Friday night we found ourselves caught in the middle of a scuffle at a gas station. Some guy was totally on drugs and attacked the cashier. I had no choice but to step in and it was a bit scary. I am 6' and 235 lbs and lift weights and that is something I never want to experience any time soon. Speaking of some other things I have seen, I have also witnessed some arguments at convenient stores that get a bit out of control. These are in areas that historically have been very good until recently. With more and more people out of work and prices going up expect to see more hostility in rural areas. At least with the Pepper spray I have a "legal" option without a death hovering over me for the rest of my life.On the other hand, that death could be mine.

So true... look at all the trouble people go through to get their drivers license and there are so many idiots on the road. The problem is not the training but the RESPECT for others. Courteous drivers are taught courtesy through their lives and therefore show up in their driving habits. Courtesy breeds respect along with awareness, they all work hand in hand. Someone that is taught to respect others will not draw a gun unless there is absolutely no other option available. There is no teaching aid that can ingrain this properly. I believe the honest, law abiding citizen would not even pull out his/her firearm even if it was warranted in a training class. Who wants to live with the death of someone else unless you had absolutely no available options.

Although I agree with that, who gets to determine what institutes the right to carry? Obviously, murder, theft and stuff like that negate the right to carry. However, what if praying, speeding or "hate speech" is considered acts of violent concern? Amendment 2 - Right to Bear Arms. Ratified 12/15/1791. Note A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Is there a limit on free speech?

Yes, but only in the confines of your home.

I have to say I agree with this... Once the Feds have a registration of everyone that has a CCW it is NO different than what Hitler did in Germany when he instituted gun registration.

Done...

But grandmothers will starve and kids will die if this passes!!! Time to face facts, these people are Marxists (AKA progressives) and DO NOT have our best interest at heart. Treat them as such....

They are horrible there. The last time I went the guy was rude, asked for FID for bird shot then when I asked to check out the 9MM ammo he rolled his eyes as if I were inconveniencing him. Needless to say that was the last time I bought ammo in NJ. Whenever I am in PA or out of state I make it a habit of buying a few boxes of 9MM, .223, .380 or whatever. I have not bought ammo in NJ since February....

Really? There are many reasons for me moving over to PA and that is one of them. Is this dope really in PA now wanting to control guns like in NJ? I don't know... PA has a lot of gun friendly folk over there and a completely different mentality.

Thanks... I printed it out ans I am using it...However, I will only use it on the way to and from the range and to and from PA.

Excuse my ignorance, but this is CHECKED baggage, correct? You are not allowed to carry this on the plane,right? I have to go to New Orleans for a trade show and I want to make sure I can bring my 3" XD9. Do I have to call the airline in advance? Do I simply lock up as shown above, put into my luggage that I intend to check in and that's it?

I am surprised the term "NJ carry permit" was [even] recognized by Google.

Am I allowed to contact him directly? The contract has been voided on both the buy here and in PA.

Word to the wise... make sure you get a good and knowledgeable agent. After the contract got cancelled there were several misunderstandings and "story changes" from seller to agent to other agent to buyer and then back. Now I see why the agents put several clauses that they can not be sued. I believe this deal would have went much smoother had all parties been informed properly. After hearing the buyer's side via quick emails after the fact we could have had this resolved.I believe he knows where I am coming from as well. I think next time I will sell myself, get a lawyer to do the paperwork and go from there. I guess I relied too much on the agent and that is my fault. Some life lessons need to be taught the hard way, unfortunately. Signed, Almost seller.

Not necessarily... nobody can answer that question for sure. Each town has its own permit requirements. For example, my town does not require permits for new windows, doors, non-load bearing structures, toilets, sinks, stoves, flooring, etc. and certain other modifications UNLESS you are altering the framework. Some towns let you do quite a bit without permits and some require permits to change carpets. Some areas you can get a CO by simply walking into the township building and requesting one, most simply use a fire Marshall to check detectors and make sure faucets work. Yet some locations check records and do a full inspection before transition. Bottom line, you need to check with your township. I have mixed feelings on permitted codes and inspections. I have seen obvious shoddy work pass code that was obviously not to code and I have seen inspectors abuse their power and giving people a very, very hard time over trivial details. Either way, I feel having independent code inspections and approvals by PRIVATE companies would work much better than the system you have right now. Reason being, if someone buys your home the company you work with will have all your code information on hand. Also, this will create competition, better service and much less ABUSIVE power. Anyway, that is my feeling on the permit system and improving it.

Thanks... he wanted this stuff done. Some was no big deal and some was pretty expensive because how it was worded and left a lot to be determined later. He sent his letter and my lawyer is working on his. I really wanted to move to PA, but ultimately some things are just out of my hands. Thank you all for your input.

Did you ever feel uncomfortable dealing with someone? This is a decision that will have lifelong ramifications. Am I afraid? No... am I afraid of getting screwed? Yes... This has been going on since August.. negotiations, changes, broken promises. I was upfront with any or all concerns....maybe that was stupid, but i would like someone to be honest with me. However, we are running out of time (settlement in 3 weeks) as this dragged out so long.I did not think it was fair to the people in PA and it was putting me and my wife through turmoil. 21 days to still be uncertain about settlement. Dragging out every single negotiation... some of these demands were totally irrational and would be impossible to settle on. We have negotiated to a point where I can not negotiate any further. Last time I sold and bought was 17 years ago. It was not a perfectly smooth ride but both parties pretty much worked together. Not so much in this case.. I am not totally blameless either as maybe I expected too much. However, you give , give and give at some point you have to take a little. Like I said almost 3 months of negotiations, lost time and through that time period our kids lost the time slot to get into the private school in PA. However, I told him I would stick to my word and sell. BTW, I will get the permit for peace of mind after the first of the year. Believe me, there is nothing more than I want to do more than get out of this state. My wife, kids, money, etc all aligned perfectly. However, this ongoing, perpetual nickle and dime had to either "put up or shut up". Too close to settlement to be negotiating for another week or so. Say what you will, but I think it was getting to the point where both parties will have a bad taste in their mouth. That is never good... I'd rather lose the deal than know both parties walk away ticked.

Basement is not included as useable square footage....even if finished. BTW, never sell a house to a lawyer, this guy sent a list of repairs that were absolutely irrational. He wanted repairs that even NEW construction would not accept. I sent an email to the realtor that contract in null and void and cancelled. I feel bad for the people we were buying from in PA.. they were accommodating and willing to work with us.

Yes, I have thought of that, but 3 of the 4 walls are easily accessible. He had a home inspector look at it and it seems the inspector was fine with it. I am getting bits and pieces of how their discussion went, but in a nutshell it sounded like the inspector was saying something about "it's all about the taxes". We'll see as he is sending a list of fixes tonight.. who knows, it may not be on there. BTW, technically the basement "was like that". We removed the junky paneling, replaced some shoddy 2"x3" and put in some nice 2"x4", vapor barrier, insulation, etc. For the life of me, now that i think of it, I have no idea how the previous homeowner got away with that. Oh, we have a lawyer. This state sucks... you need a lawyer for everything. Another reason for wanting to move to PA.

I don't think so... He has hung in there through 6 weeks of negotiations and is living at his daughter's house. He is a cash buyer, but we'll see.

We have entered into a contract with the buyer of our home. Before we entered into contract I met him at a "final" inspection. At that time he was very pleased with the house but he asked a strange question. He asked if the partially finished basement had a permit. I told him "no" and we left it at that. There was some existing structure before, but less than there is now. He inspected with the "home inspector" and is insisting on a permit. He is paying cash, no mortgage. For the life of me I am baffled why he is asking for a permit when he knew none existed. I feel like he is setting up to renegotiate or sue me (he is a lawyer). I am completely uncomfortable with this guy and want out. The realtor is not concerned but also said this is the first time in 25 years she has seen this happen. Please help... I already signed a contract for a house in PA with 3 day review ending tomorrow and he signed our contract Friday morning. My gut is telling me to come clean with the township. I honestly did not think a basement required a permit. Everyone I spoke with did it without one.

We are a phone call away (negotiating) from selling our house and moving to PA. Main reason, I fear for this state over the next few years. it is a tough decision as we have teenage kids and one that is 20, but the unions, taxes, mentality, loss of freedoms, etc make NJ a bad state to bring up a family.

I think it would be a good idea to start sending emails to ranges, friends and post on forums to let ALL gun owners know what is going on and to be there. Also, be prepared that left wing (Marxists/progressives) WILL be there. Our numbers need to be greater and we need to be peaceful. Spread the word....After all this is NJ and the radicals do not want to give up power. Make sure you are prepared with a camera in hand, knowledge of what you stand for and go up in groups. Maybe we should have meeting areas? IE: NJ gun forum members meet out front 50' right of the entrance?