mikelets456

Make is REAL easy on oneself and move to another state. Unfortunately I can not sell my house!! I did the same thing and got 4 permits and only able to use three.... it killed me to waste that last one. It is real hard to burn 6 in 6 months...

I know what you are saying...but if you read the old testament you will know that God tells a believer to KNOCK THE TEETHOUT of a non-believer...there are plenty of references to violence toward other groups in the Torah (old testament)...those other groups being NON BELIEVERS...its really not that much different... Have the "peace talks" of today really helped? Do the Muslims accept the Jews and are the Muslims allowing Jews to freely Worship where ever they want? I see so many tolerant Muslims these days (Sarcasm). Point is, when you are surrounded by people who WILL (with out a doubt) destroy you at a moment's notice do you discuss "Peace talks"? Do you think it is the Jews who are intolerant or the Muslims? I am a Christian and ALWAYS look for common ground, but if someone breaks into my house and threatens to KILL my family, do I put my gun down and enter "peace talks"?

There may be a misunderstanding here. I am only talking about those who literally interpret the Bible. I am frustrated that someone would take literally the words in a book that was cobbled together by many different individuals. While the Bible (new and old Testament) may have been Divinely inspired, the books within were certainly the work of man, and inherit some of man's fallability. Think of how many contradictory statements there are in these books. Think of all the Gospels and books that were dropped by early Church councils. While the bible may serve as a useful guide for living, applying several thousand year old text literally without historical context is a problem to me. Do I really think God hates pigs and shellfish? Nope. I think uncooked pork and seafood got enough early Jews sick that somebody in their religion came up with a religious rule that would prevent illness. I believe the Bible to be inspired by God and "God Breathed" as stated in Timothy. What I highlighted was from "Levitical" law and hence the reason for Jesus dying for our sins once and for all. In a nutshell, the Jews complained that they had to make so many sacrifices for so many different sins they were constantly reminded of their sin. So God sent Christ to be a "one time" sacrifice to all that believe that he is the sacrifice. I really can't explain this in a "blog" so if you would like to go into further detail I would not mind explaining in a PM or on here. Also, I do believe that God's word (The Bible) is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. Just because technology changes does not mean morals, values and Jesus' teachings change. I trust in God's word, I believe it to be good and a guideline for life. One other word about a Godless society.... if there is no center or focus on God, who makes the rules? If there is a Godless government ruling Godless people then the laws will mimic the beliefs of the ruler and no higher authority to hold the ruler in check. So if the ruler believes that all brunettes must die, or talking bad about the ruler is punishable by death, what's there to stop him? What I am trying to say is would we chose to have permanent rules from God govern the people (Freedom and choice) or ever changing rules of man (determined and changes with whom is in power).

I am not thrilled with Christians and Jews who use literal interpretation of their holy books either Ok... so what are you not thrilled with? The amount of money, time and care they give to "less fortunate"? That they will give you an honest answer based on truth? Maybe because they are NOT perfect and you expect them to be? What... I really don't understand this. Are you so brainwashed by MTV, the MSM and so forth that Christians are really evil, hate filled people. Really? I want to know why you despise Christians so much...even when I had no real belief, Christians never really offended me. I would like to know why...

I think most choose based on their upbringing. Whatever their parents believe in, they believe in. Shouldn't you take a step back, investigate ALL of the major religions, and decide for yourself? These seem to contradict each other? but you don't need god to do that. You can be helpful, loving, give to charity, be honest, and be part of your community WITHOUT belief in god. That's called good parenting and being an upstanding citizen. Please don't take this the wrong way, but do you have children? Where did you you learn your morals, values and guidelines? Where do you think your parents and society learned them from? Whether you want to believe it or not this nation was built on very strong Christian/ Biblical values that were handed down from generation to generation. The values were taught and bred into our society and became 2nd nature. However, if we think our nation can survive Godless, I guarantee... GUARANTEE it will self destruct. Don't you see evidence of it now? I am not preaching end of world stuff, but look at nation after nation where God is removed... soon morals, values then ultimately FREEDOM is gone. Government replaces God and there goes the country. God given rights (Declaration of Independence) are replaced with government given rights. Put simply my kids learned it from me and my wife, from God and society as a whole. See how many people open the door, let you into traffic, , let you ahead of them in line, actually have 10 items or less in the "express checkout". How many people actually own up to their mistakes? Apologize for an error or admit wrong doing? I don't see that much at all... Now go to the Midwest or areas with more Conservative, Biblical upbringings and tell me there is no difference. I can see a huge difference when my kids bring home friends that have good strong families and friends that don't... the differences are night and day. I can see a huge difference in the kids that have messed up families but have a relationship with God and so forth. When the family unit has a breakdown so does society... One last thing, we have taught youth groups for 10-12 years and have met kids with the most messed up families I have ever seen... some where one or both parents left the child. These kids always tell me, " I do not know where I would be without God..." This is not one instance but many. I have also had the same experience growing up as a suicidal drunken, drug doing teen and into my 20's....saw a councilor,etc. I had no real belief, nor did I care. However, had I not found God I honestly think I would be dead right now. I went from a suicidal drunk one day to receiving Christ the next and amazingly transformed. That is why I am passionate about God... not because of my Church, parents or friends but simply because what God has done. See, I believe society feeds off of one another... Learning and instilling values from generation to generation. But these so-called "no brainer" values came from some where and were passed on from one generation to another. I believe they came from the Bible... look at so many of our laws and world laws, they mimic the 10 commandments and teachings from the New Testament. However, look how many of the Biblical teachings are taken over by the ROLE of Government (Love one another = hate speech, Charity=Welfare). Anyway, that's my 2 cents... thanks for listening. BTW, I hated being preached to as a teen and early 20's so I apologize in advance if I am being "preachy".

So we can trust and believe in what? Government? What... seriously? Why is Christianity so hard to "accept"? What's the big deal? teaching how to help, love, give charity and time to others... please tell me how that is bad? I'm not saying you have to accept Christians or Jews or God I am simply trying to figure out why there is a "hatred"?

ah, I don't even care for this argument as its pointless and stupid. Religion is spiritual and inspiring for some; religion is a system of control for others (or its just a double edged sword regardless). Still, its a person's choice-- and saying/defending one's religion adamantly (to religious fervor-- not defending their religion [which is justifiable], different things), to me, is the same as pushing it on someone. A person should accept their belief(s), and good for them. Just stay off my lawn, and let me figure it out for myself. That's fine... figure it out for yourself. The thing that is of great concern is the BLATANT disrespect for the 1A. It is ok for people like yourself to tell Christians and Jews to shut up, be quiet and stay out of schools and our lives. Isn't that the opposite of OUR belief in the 1A? Does the Constitution state "Freedom FROM religion"? No, it is "Freedom OF Religion". Once again, forcing you to believe? What? Yeah, teaching about morals, values, guidelines and giving to others is pretty offensive and should not be taught. Look at the breakdown of every society.. Remove God, morals, values, honor and society falls apart. Bottom line: A few years ago I would simply let you speak your mind,let you bash Religion and go my merry way. However, Freedom is at stake and this government is OBVIOUSLY wanting to replace the one true God with Government. Not on my watch.... You may see Religion as the problem, but you think Government is the answer? I'll stick to honor, morals and values from a source that has never changed through time. Can you honestly say that men, women and children have become more courteous, honorable, honest and giving over the last 40 years? Can you honestly say that society is better off being Godless? Really... you think so?

Christianity has tried to do the same thing. Look at the Pacific Islands and South America. I'm no fan of Islam, and I don't like how they carry themselves. But religion is a touchy subject. Yeah, those EVIL Christians spreading help, hope and giving of their OWN time and resources....Christians the main group that fought and died for slaves and give without expecting anything in return. Yeah, it is so evil. I guess it is more acceptable to blow people up, force them to practice and accept your beliefs, stone women and call people racist bigots if they disagree with you? Muslims the largest group of slave traders and 90% of their slaves died in the end. Are you saying the two religions and beliefs are similar?

As a Christian and an American I am NOT offended! How is this "Religious Persecution"? Are there Jews and Christians blowing up innocent people? Are Jews and Christians offending Islam or continually appeasing them? How is Islam greeting Jews and Christians in the middle East and the West? I am offended by the world of POLITICAL CORRECTNESS! Christians and Jews are allowed to have a say in the protection and future of the Greatest nation on earth!!

...Only when it benefits the honest citizen requesting a Constitutional right....

No... when was that on? i have FIOS and will check if "on demand".... I want to see that.

Yeah. Seriously. The issue is having the knife in the right place at the right angle to deflect the bullet. Sorry,thanks for putting up with my bad humor.

" Now that's a knife..." BTW, can they deflect bullets that are shot at you?

Gosh, I must be the lucky one. I am running out of money because everyone in my family and most friends keep asking me to take them to the range. Anyone want to adopt?

Maybe you could both "inherit" each other's guns....

It is amazing that we have to worry about how to transport a fundamental right!! This state's laws have got to change...

I wondered this as well. The only thing that concerned me is if my car was stolen or broken into. I went to the range about a month ago and we needed to pick up milk and a few other things at Walmart. Sorry, but i was not going home, putting the guns in the case then going all the way back out to Walmart... so we stopped on our way home. BTW, these rules have to change. My gosh, first off the guns are locked in the back separate from the ammo. Second, I am a legal gun owner being treated like a criminal. Not like I am going to the bar I just want to go to the range and then have a burger with my son on the way home... total BS and I think Unconstitutional. Now for the question of the day... what would you do: You finish at the range and stop at Wawa on the way home. You notice a robbery in progress with a firearm. The guy's back is to you and he is pointing his gun at innocent people. Do you: A) Leave it for the cops. B) grab your gun from the trunk and call out. C) Just shoot him in the back and hope you hit him.

The cure for that... bring people to the range any chance you get. I have no idea how many people are "converted" after putting a few rounds at a target 7 yards away. People get hooked QUICKLY! I'll say this though, people/friends who were anti-gun just a few years back now understand the importance and reason of the 2A. Many, many friends that NEVER considered guns in the past now have their FID and bought some shot guns. It is a start.. Like I said, the LEO who issued my handgun permits said "before BO he issued 2 a week, now it is 5 a day". Keep preaching, but more importantly, bring them to the range!

So they spend a lot of money and go on trips?

I think this "Bill" has been around for a while and never makes it to the floor for a vote. I have sent emails to my district regarding this and I guess it does not hurt to keep posting and "badgering" them. Gosh, if my 15 year old asks me enough times for something, i usually give in...usually!

That is a good idea. This is why we need a group to meet to discuss this...

Can't be.. the gun is to locked in the trunk away from the ammo. Come on, everyone in NJ knows that.

I was on meds, went through counseling but never committed. I casually asked over the phone to the LEO, " if someone saw a counselor but was not committed should that be noted"? He said "NO", unless you are committed or got in trouble with the law resulting in the mental problem. The way I look at it, #1) Everyone has "problems". #2) Everyone can benefit from counseling at some point in their lives. #3) Going to counseling, taking medication under the supervisions of a qualified doctor is not abuse or "problem". #4) Getting help/counseling shows a willingness to get better and dealing with life... a strength, that is. #5) It ain't none of their business. What does that have to do with our right "not to be infringed"? So no. I did not put it in there. Gosh, the whole process I go through to "legally" get a firearm I/We are treated like a criminal. Get finger printed, fill out mental health forms, fill out every piece of paper pertaining to SS#, birth place, DOB, physical illness, mental, references, pay a fee, wait 2 months, get re-finger printed, can't carry, have to go straight to the range and home, can't defend myself and must retreat. This is a right that is not to be infringed? Am I missing something?

If you drink and shoot at the same time, you'll have more time for your other hobbies....

#1- Music (Drums, Bass,Guitar) Takes up a lot of my time. #2- Softball (Summer) / Going to the range (Winter) #3- Golf (summer) #4- Fishing (summer)