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:scared-eek: Wow. I think I mentioned I had a premise permit in NYC before moving here. Not only did you have to be employed, you had to be "gainfully" employed. W2's were needed. AND you had to show it during your interview at 1 Police Plaza. NJ is kinda lame ( I thought for sure I could be shooting squirrels with a Pellet gun, like I did in my youth on Long Island) but man, some parts of these laws make me feel like I moved to Texas. that was a NYC law. nothing in the NJ legislature that states you have to be employed. clearly . Amazing

This worked great the first time out. I used #8-10X1" anchors. I had to put it in the breach each time but it worked like a charm.

:scared-eek: Wow. I think I mentioned I had a premise permit in NYC before moving here. Not only did you have to be employed, you had to be "gainfully" employed. W2's were needed. AND you had to show it during your interview at 1 Police Plaza. NJ is kinda lame ( I thought for sure I could be shooting squirrels with a Pellet gun, like I did in my youth on Long Island) but man, some parts of these laws make me feel like I moved to Texas.

Thanks for the answers. This one caught my eye. It might be academic to discuss this but I like to work these things through for a bit so I don't have to when the Sit hits the fan. I would think that if it came to this I would tell them "Well you should know that means I am going to shoot it with my pistol because I am not going to get close a wild animal with rabies." I would bet they would come quite quickly.

What a strange way to get into this topic. We are new to the area and started talking to our realtor. She mentioned bears out by her. My wife, being one who doesn't like being mauled by anything outside her species, asked if we should worry about them where we live. The answer was that if there is anything to fear from the wildlife it would be in the form of a rabid raccoon since she had heard of a few instances. Then she told us "the one time we saw a rabid raccoon we called the police and he thought the best thing to do was to shoot it. He had to call his headquarters and let them know he would be discharging his firearm then we went inside and he shot it." So my wife is smart enough not to mention to anyone that we own couple of pistols, but she did ask me later, " I guess if we ever saw a rabid animal you could just shoot it?" I don't think that is the case, especially if I am not in danger. But what would or could I do? I think it is obvious that things turned out okay for the people that called the police and had them take care of it. I guess the only reason I ask is because if my wife is looking at a plus side to owning the handguns I want to make sure I can build on that rather than face the dreaded "you own these pistols and you can't even shoot a raccoon with it? What good are they?" Plus I am the kind of guy that like to play these things out in my mind just so it doesn't catch me of guard if it comes to this. The scenario being there is a rabid animal scaring my wife. She wants me to shoot it. I tell her I can't because.........why? Anyway, the question is what can or should I do in such a case? My gut tells me to take the animal out and end the issue as quickly as possible. But life in New Jersey leads me to believe I could lose my permits and my handguns and my security clearance for doing so. What is the answer?

Thats Great! I have plenty of those so its cheap! Thanks for the replies guys.

On Long Islnd there was a range at T&T gunnery that rented handguns but has since closed. They have a second location that I never went to but if they have a range then I would reccomend it. Of courst if they already own a weapon, Calverton is the way to go.

Thanks guys. Very good info. I'll be making the trip this weekend.

Reminds me of a story my wife tells. Her ex boyfriend liked to use wooden matches to light his cigs. One days he was out playing soccer with a box in his sweat pants and they caught fire. She saw him running and noticed he was trailing smoke. anyway, please continue.... :oops:

I loved this video. Thanks for the link

N.A.B.?

well thats a good question. I fired the first post off on the train from my iPhone so I was to busy getting my fingers to type than to think it through. I guess in a nutshell I am looking to see what makes economic sense. I am in Morris Plains and I have been to Bullet Hole a few times because I don't need to be a member and I REALLY like the Mark III they sold me used. BUT, 9mm ammo is hardly as cheap as I once remember. I got the MkIII so I could shoot cheaper but nothing rounds out the day of 22LR shooting like 50 rnds of 9mm+P Joining a range is right out at this point if the membership is over $100 (promised the wife we would take her riding some horseys' as trade for the Ruger). If you could spare the time for a good rundown of options and costs I would much appreciate.

I want to shoot off some 8 year old 9 mm hollow points and get some new HOme def rounds. I live about half way between Bullet Hole and the Del water Gap at Rte 80. Should I go to PA? Is it cheaper there?

I am just wondering. I don't think I ever saw a 22LR dummy round for dry firing. I would imagine that for rim fire it is very bad?

Holy hipfired statistical buckshot! Look, you don't have to tell me it would be nice to have CCW in NY or NJ. But the story linked was talking about the nationwide trend in decreasing violent crime coinciding with the widespread use of drug therapy. I find that very interesting. They are merely thinking about doing more research but I am sure we will be seeing talk of it. However, last year in NYC we were hearing that the city had the lowest crime rate in nearly 40 years. A drop seen across the country. Much as I would like to have a CCW, there is no way that I can believe that CCW had anything to do with record low crime in NYC over the last 10 years. Hell I want a CCW and I can't see the relation. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crim ... lling.html

HBO did a film called "When Trumpets Fade" a while ago. It was quite good. My favorite actually. I was shown "The Great Raid" in Army WLC. It was okay but it was mainly shown to illustrate planning. Speaking of films shown to teach the military, put "The Battle Of Algiers" in your flix que. Look up the title. It is very interesting.

I'm glad I am not the only one. Many things bothered me about Hurt Locker. Main thing was the guy walking home to the fob all alone In ACU pants, hoody and and handgun.

oh.. Um, I have a question.... How would that explain crime rates dropping in New York City? Not that I want to start a debate with my fellow shooters, but can anyone be sure? I would suspect the idea put forth in that "white paper" is going to fuel a lot of debates about a lot of things; drug companies, police work, gun laws. I forsee a few battles brewing.

http://thestatsblog.wordpress.com/2009/ ... you-think/ Read this story in a regular magazine but it is not available as a link. I found this online article instead.

Yea but its my point. in reference to that guy's lawyers's quote. The Richard Thompson dude.

I'd just like to point out how many muslims are working with us in Iraq and Afghanistan at this very moment. Most under the constant fear of their own death or of their loved ones for doing so. When we arrived in Iraq the base had lost 3 interpreters to sniper fire in 2 weeks. Sure you wantthe bad guys to die, but we have many good one currently working with us too.

http://www.military.com/news/article/ma ... 6032325324 http://www.military.com/news/article/pu ... 6032325324

I want to find the humor in this, but I just can't. Here I was thinking your joke was in the subject line.

Pull some sort of pin? Press some sort of button?

My first handgun purchase in NJ was a used Mark III Hunter. What did I do when I got it home? I took the whole thing apart, and I mean I had the hammer and safety out for inspection and cleaning. I downloaded a schematic and put it back together. It isn't that hard. I am just glad that I hadn't read how hard it was before I started or I never would have tried that. and I agree with everything that was said about the feel and look. Kind of a Luger meets Flash Gordon with some magic balance stuff mixed in. Even my wife thinks its pretty. It's practically a work of art.