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This may work. The flap conceals the magazine and doesn't scream "gun."

IMHO, there is a reason why people keep buying revolvers. The Ruger LCR is a fantastic little gun. I personally didn't like it when I shot it, but I would still recommend it as an option. I carried a 15-shot PX4 Compact when I first started carrying in PA. That lasted about a month. The gun was heavy and thick. I can't think of any situation (except for a Mumbai type situation) where I would need more than a few rounds anyway. My guess is that you could take care of 99% of the CCW situations you are likely to encounter with a 5 shot revolver. That being said, I still don't own one. But your revolver will never jam, and you will never forget to take the safety off. You can use a revolver with either hand. You can reload a revolver with one broken hand - there is a reason why pilots in Vietnam carried revolvers as their survival weapon. There are plenty of advantages to a revolver. My biggest problem with 38 Special is the cost - I shoot about 100 rounds per week, sometimes more. If I shot 38 special, that's about three to four dollars more per box than 9mm. I like the aesthetics of wheelguns and would certainly consider purchasing a 9mm or 45 ACP revolver, especially a Charter Arms, but my SD preference is semi-autos. So that's what I stick with. I wouldn't discourage anyone from using a revolver if that's what they preferred. It's still a perfectly valid platform.

I have no experience shooting this round, but I have been at the cash register when someone was buying them. I think the rounds cost about $25 a box. I've never seen .357 Sig rounds available at Dicks or Wal Mart in PA or on sale. Look, there is a reason why people buy Ferraris, but a Ferrari will never sell the volume of a Honda Accord. There is a reason why the Secret Service and Air Marshals use the round - you basically have a 9mm equivalent of Jessie Owens with the capacity of a .40 cal. You can also switch out the barrels and have a very potent .40 caliber handgun. But cops have the money to buy boutique rounds, most of us don't. IMHO, if you want to own a gun chambered in .357 Sig, do it. Take it to the range once a year and show it to your friends and tell them that it's what the Air Marshals use. Watch it punch through multiple layers of wood at the range and hit targets 50 yards away with ease. But when you are practicing alone, drop the .40 caliber barrel in: it's cheaper and a better round for what you are more likely to do with it (put holes in paper). I've said it before. Life is too short to shoot guns that you only like. If a .357 Sig gun will make you happy, do it. But get the .40 caliber conversion barrel so you can be happy and cost effective.

Midwest PX has 15 round PMAGs available: http://midwestpx.com/index.php?cPath=15_86&osCsid=n6k0vggovpb709mot0ncao4f95

I own one and I just carried one for the past 5 days in Florida. Advantages: #1. You can't beat the price. #2. You can get a +1 grip extension that transforms the gun into an 8+1 ... I wouldn't feel under gunned with it as a bedside gun. #3. It's very thin and conceals up to nothing. I've concealed it successfully with an untucked shirt and IWB Fobus holster. #4. I've never had a failure with it. The gun runs dry and isn't picky with ammo. #5. It's as accurate as it's supposed to be at 7 yards. You won't win an Olympic competition with it, but it will save your life. Disadvantages: #1. Shooting the gun is like hitting your hand with a sledgehammer. #2. L....O....N....G double action trigger pull. Personally I love carrying the gun, but I hate shooting it. I bought the PF9 because my PX4 Compact was just a little too big to conceal well and I have some concerns about flicking the PX4 Safety off in a fight - not that I'm going to get in a fight, but still... My friend bought a Beretta Nano and I think it was the better gun but I would not pass one up if you can get one used. I did a side-by-side comparison here: http://njgunforums.com/forum/index.php?/topic/34383-live-fire-comparison-kel-tec-pf9-and-beretta-nano/page__fromsearch__1

I think 90% of the time I'm either at work wearing a suit, or slacks, a dress shirt and a sportcoat. If I'm casual, I'm usually wearing nicer jeans and a sport shirt that is untucked. That's the only time an OWB magazine pouch could work. I'm probably one of the few people you see at the gun range in Philly wearing a suit. A leatherman pouch would look out of place wearing nicer clothes, although maybe not a leather knife pouch... I like the Galco horizontal carrier, but the whole point is for me to carry IWB in a tuckable holster and not have something that is obviously a magazine hanging off my belt. Of course, I could always try to lose 10 lbs and try a tuckable mag holster. I guess the criteria is: 1. Nice enough to wear with a suit 2. Doesn't scream Mag Pouch 3. OWB I think one other option is the Kangaroo Carry (http://www.kangaroocarry.com/) Isn't McKenzie Holsters on this board? Maybe that guy could work up a horizontal mag holster that opens like a cell phone case.

I was in Florida on business the past few days and I carried my Kel Tec PF9 the entire time I was there. I mainly wore suits during work hours or loose Guayabera shirts on my off time. Concealing IWB in a tuckable Remora holster was trivial with a PF9. I was even able to conceal OWB with a Fobus paddle holster with my Guayabera shirts. The one problem I had was my spare magazine. I don't have enough room in my pants for another IWB attachment and I wasn't always wearing a blazer (or I would take it off). I'm right handed, so I put my spare magazine in my back left pocket. This had a number of disadvantages. First of all, the magazine is bouncing around in my pocket. It's not in a constant position where I can be confident that I could grab the magazine and slap it into my gun if I ever had to. A pocket carry magazine holster could be a solution, but then I lose an entire pocket. Second, I was afraid that my pocket change would somehow wedge itself underneath the first round of the magazine. Then, if I ever had to reload, I'd be loading one 9mm round and one dime. I can't think of anything good that can happen in that situation. Third, when I reached into my back pocket to get change for a soda at a drugstore, I pulled out my pocket change and my magazine loaded with seven 9mm cartridges. The clerk didn't seem to notice or care. But I can see how that would be a bad thing to take out of your pocket in polite company. I think I figured out the solution and I'd like some advice as to whether this will work: What if I took an old cell phone holster and used that to carry my spare magazine? It's not that uncommon to see people with two cellphones, or two cell phone holders. I may buy a cheap holder to see if it works. My only fear would be that the holder could break open, spilling your ammunition on the ground. Has anyone ever tried this?

I was wondering when someone was going to bring this up. I don't see the government "coming for" your 401(k) but I can see them mandating that you purchase Treasuries to prop up our currency. You know how we funded WWII by selling war bonds? Our government effectively plowed government paychecks back into the government to keep making tanks and planes and ships... so they could have the money to pay the workers who were making tanks and planes and ships. But what if the government suddenly needed money to pay for ObamaCare and student loans and infrastructure improvements, but China decided not to buy our bonds? Congress could pass a law... let's call it the "The Economic Patriotism Act" where a certain percentage amount of your money in your IRA or 401(k) had to be invested in government securities until retirement age. This would guarantee that Americans would buy American debt to pay for American improvements. This would also guarantee that there would be buyers for America's debt... at least until the percentage of Treasuries required reaches 100%... and what happens after that is anybody's guess.

Join NJ2AS and watch this video, my friend. Welcome to the sport. Have fun, be safe and let us know how your permit situation works out.

I was about to say... if I had 3000 rounds of ammunition accidentally delivered to my house you would see me at Range 14 with the barrel of my PX4 melted into a puddle at my feet.

+1 This It may be a case of "It's too hard to explain the laws so we'll just say that he had a permit." Most people that don't know much about guns think that if you get a permit for the gun you can carry it anyway.

I said this a few days ago when BlueLineFish asked the question Go with the Auto Ordnance. Mine is a WWII reproduction complete with the crappy GI sights. But it is made in the USA, looks like a WWII pistol and says "Model 1911A1 U.S. Army" on the side, just like the one I was issued almost 20 years ago. It's not a tack driver - it's accuracy is minute-of-dinner-plate at 7 yards, but it will hit a man in the chest at 7 yards which is about the max home defense range you will ever encounter if you think of shooting down a hallway. IMHO, buy the Beretta for home defense first. Then buy the .22LR practice kit so you can shoot for pennies. Then buy the 1911. If you want to try mine out, PM me. You'll have to drive down to Ft. Dix, but you are welcome to meet me there and put a few mags through it.

I shouldn't say "walk around" with shells, but I've never been escorted to the front of the store in Mt. Laurel or Cherry Hill. But then again 90% of the time when I'm shopping at Dicks, I'm on my way home from work and wearing a suit. I have noticed I tend to get treated differently pretty much everywhere when I'm in a suit than when I look like a 5.11 Catalog model.

Dicks seems to be schizophrenic when it comes to ammo sales. Some stores put the ammo in a plastic box. Some stores walk it to the register. Some stores ask for the FID for longgun ammo. Some stores don't. The Mt. Laurel Dicks lets you walk around with shells. So does the Cherry Hill store. The Princeton store puts ammunition in a plastic box. I think it it all depends on that store's loss prevention policy.

Years ago, Patrick F. McManus, a humorist for for Outside magazine, wrote an article called: "Gunrunning." You can still find the article in the book: "The Grasshopper Trap." The basic gist is this: The wife usually doesn't mind one gun. After all, you can shoot deer with it. But she clucks a little when you bring home a shotgun, and you have to explain to her that you need a different gun to shoot birds. The third gun is the key, because after the third gun it becomes: "What do you need all of those guns for?" This is critical, because at this point, your wife starts to regard your firearms in the collective: "Guns." Now your gun collection can grow from 3 guns to 40, as long as you always keep three empty spaces in the safe she won't know any difference. I will admit that this is true. My "collection" went from one gun to 10 in just a few short years. I started with a Glock 22, got rid of the Glock and bought a CX4 and was happy for years. Then I got a new job and my cube just happened to be next to a Marine who loved his Glocks. So of course, I had to buy a Beretta 92FS pistol to remind him of the superiority of Italian design. Yes, my wife seethed, but it was only one little pistol, and I was pretty much done. Sort of. Except my older son needed a .22 Rifle. Right? Every boy needs a .22 rifle. And of course Dad needs a .22 as well so he can... teach him properly, right? Oh, and a shotgun, because you can't shoot skeet without a shotgun. Better make that two shotguns because if I have a guest when shooting skeet, It's gouache to swap out guns. Actually, better make that three shotguns, because you need a Beretta over-under to shoot skeet unless you want to look silly wearing your Beretta Hat and Beretta Vest. The guest can use the pump shotgun... and I can get a second guest for the second shotgun. Of course, a skeet squad can be up to 5 people... humm... need to buy some more shotguns. Just gotta keep three empty spaces in the safe and I am set.

I've never been happy with the term "beak in period." I've I've paid $700 for a gun it better darn well shoot when I take it out of the box!!! I had a similar problem with my PX4 Compact when I got it. I attribute that to my own errors: #1. I was limp-wristing my PX4 because I was used to metal guns. #2. I was trying to keep my weak hand finger on the rounded trigger guard like I used to do with my 92FS (which as a square trigger guard) and Glock 22. It took me a few range trips to train myself not to curl my weak hand index finger around the trigger guard. #3. I ran my PX4 dry. Anything with a rotating barrel needs lube. #4. I never cleaned my PX4 after I got it. I just shot it with all of the factory gunk still inside it. First off, is this your first gun? Have you fired a pistol before? If this is your first gun, or you are new to pistols, you may need to work on fundamentals. If it's not, then the problem may be mechanical or ammunition related. From the sound of the problem, it seems like the cartridge is only feeding halfway into the breech, it's not getting hung up in the magazine, correct? You could try the sandpaper idea, but I would hold off doing that until you rule out the first three items below: #1. You could be limb wristing. When the magazine is full, the weight of the extra 6 .45 ASP rounds provides enough mass for the gun to push back enough for the slide to cycle correctly. By the time you only have 2 rounds left in the magazine you start to see failures. Try for an 80% crush. Pretend like you are trying to crush a soda can in your hand then back off 20%. Also consider changing the backstrap. When you hold the gun in your hand, the slide should line up with your forearm. If the slide is at an angle to your forearm, the gun is going to recoil into the webbing of your hand, which has a lot more give than the bone of your forearm, you may just need a smaller backstrap. #2. Give your gun a good cleaning and then lube it wherever you see wear marks. The gun will tell you where it needs to be lubed. Just look for the wear marks on the gun and that is where metal is rubbing against metal. CLP is fine for cleaning, but I prefer to use a tiny dab of Gun Butter for lube wherever I see a wear mark. Militec works well too, but we could talk about lube all day. #3. Try a different brand of ammo. But only try the different brand if #1 and #2 don't work out. Let us know how it works out.

The controlled burn is the economy. It's still pretty darn bad out there. Lautenberg will wake up every few months and ramble on about guns, but the fact is that I don't even think it is on the president's radar screen.

Off the top of my head, you could do something like this: Go to the craft store... or Home Depot now that I think of it. Buy some thick Velcro. Take the fuzzy side and sew half of the fuzzy size to the back of the ammo pouch facing down. Pull up on the fuzzy size so that the other half hangs down and acts as a flap. Take the hook side and sew half to the front side of the ammo pouch facing up. Link the half of the hook side to the other half of the fuzzy side so it creates a velcro-linked barrier, or a pouch within a pouch. The Velcro doesn't need to go across the entire width of the ammo pouch, just enough to prevent the magazine from falling completely through. That's what I would do. Best of all, if you ever want to re-purpose the magazine pouch to an AR-15 pouch, all you have to do is disconnect the Velcro and let it hang down on the inside of the pouch.

As a guy who voted for Obama the first time and Romney the second, I think that the sign should say: "IF YOU VOTED FOR OBAMA OR ARE A LIBERAL, YOU WILL GET A FREE NRA FIRST STEPS HANDGUN LESSON INSIDE." We can try to force our ideology on people, but the best way of changing minds is for people to change their minds themselves. Do you know what I did on election night? I took a new Citizen, a Hungarian immigrant, shooting for the first time. She loved it. We change minds one range trip at a time.

Like I said in the other thread...

Well, there is another way:

I own an Auto Ordnance 1911A1. It looks just like the same gun I carried 20 years ago in the army. It has "US Army" on the slide and the crappy GI sights. Is it accurate? No. We are talking minute-of-dinner-plate at 7 yards. But I would attribute that to the crappy GI style sights. If you are aiming for a man-sized target, you will hit him somewhere in the Q. It is made in the USA, unlike a RIA. I've had occasional jams with it, but I have with just about any gun. The gun is a range toy, not a self-defense pistol, but it is probably my favorite toy. I go to Range 14 once or twice a month and I'll meet you there if you are interested in taking a look and putting a few rounds through it. It's not for sale, though. It will be my oldest son's gun one day. PM me if you are interested in meeting up.

Assemblyman Carroll proposes one just about every session in the same way that Van Drew proposes carry every session and it never goes anywhere. If Senator Sweeny proposed it, then things would be a different story. Sweeny is backed by Norcross and people listen to Norcross. Legislation like this has to come from a Democrat like Sweeny so it can be passed virtually unnoticed like the law for allowing real guns to be displayed at non-profit auctions. Anybody else who introduces a bill to remove P2P will get pilloried in the Star Ledger. Let me put a scary thought into your mind: Governor Booker. Christie can beat Sweeny, I doubt he can beat Booker. But if all of the gun owners of NJ support Sweeny in the primary if Sweeny decides to run for Governor, we can have a win/win ticket. With Sweeny or Christie we get a Pro 2A (or at least hands off 2A) governor. If Sweeny were smart, and he wants to become governor, he would start introducing some "little" pro 2A stuff. Simple things like getting rid of P2P, legislating that FID cards actually fit in a wallet credit card slot, removing "reasonable deviation" for handguns.

I rarely see a Mossberg at Dicks without the 28" barrel. I've see field/deer combos, but not field/security combos. If you want one, try the forum vendors. One option for you is to post a WTB message on NewJerseyHunter.com . That site is always a good resource for sporting shotguns, although it may not come with a security barrel, you can get one for about $80 online.

I think that this is a distinct possibility as long as it doesn't provide ammunition to opponents. That Christie "Automatic Assault Weapons" flyer is going to come back to haunt him in Iowa. Eliminating the P2P scheme and going with FID for handgun purchases would be a good start.- it's one of those things that would be a win for everybody. The Troopers process fewer applications, which frees up more troopers to actually fight crime. The Democrats get to say that they are helping cut red tape. Of course I would prefer straight NICS for everything, but baby steps here. We have to admit what we will and won't see with the current legislature.