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Caracal... because the world really needs another black plastic centerfire pistol. *shrug* If you want a black plastic centerfire pistol, get a Glock. If you want a really good black plastic centerfire pistol, get an M&P. If you want to pay $300 more than the Glock for the same quality and reliability, get an H&K. There are so many options out there, I don't see the *need* for yet another duty-sized black-plastic pistol. IMHO, the three most interesting pistols that have come out recently are the Sig P250, Ruger LCR and the Beretta NANO. Both of those guns are game-changers. The Caracal is a "Me Too" with the added bonus of not being able to swap or adjust your sights since they are built right into the frame. I just can't get excited about this gun. BTW, I would add Charter Arms to that list of "Most Interesting" pistols with the addition of their "rimless revolver" or "Pit Bull," but I have yet to see one in 9mm, so its use is limited.

I have Hornady Critical Defense in my CX4. I don't "trust" HP ammo when it comes to feeding, and I like the fact that it isn't considered a hollow point. I don't think you will ever have anything to worry about, G-d forbid you are involved in a shooting, as long as you were in the right. Even in NJ, no prosecutor in his right mind would charge somebody if you were within the law. I think the type of gun and ammunition comes into play if you are involved in a "good" shoot that goes bad. You shoot a bad guy and he stumbles out of your house and dies on the driveway. You fire a "warning" shot that goes through your house and wounds a neighbor. And so on... in a case like that, I could see how you would want a bullet called "Critical Defense" instead of "Zombie Max." I remember once reading an article that revolvers, hunting rifles and shotguns with wood furniture were more sympathetic to juries during the sentencing phase of a trial. I will try to find that article.

PM me. I have some brass punches and live in Cherry Hill.

You said a .45. Do you mean you want to add a 1911, or just gun in .45 Caliber? I own an Auto Ordnance 1911A1 that is basically a World War II replica and it cost me about $500. If you are looking for a .45 in general, take a look at the PX4 in .45 ACP or the M&P in .45.

Not that I think of it, isn't the pistol grip just attached to the AR15 through a simple screw? Couldn't you just remove the pistol grip and give it to a friend. Now you are no longer in possession, get your collapsible stock and pin it wherever you want. Then when it is pinned, have your friend bring back the pistol grip. Or, keep the folding stock and try this California option: https://www.exilemachine.net/shop/exile-machine-hammerhead-ar-15-grip-black-1.html

CLP isn't necessarily the best. It's a compromise. It's Cleaner, Lubricant and Preservative. Let a big bottle of CLP sit for a while and you'll see that the stuff separates into its component parts and you have to shake the bottle up to get the CLP mixed together again. If you are a soldier out in the field who has a limited amount of space in his backpack, it makes sense to carry one bottle that does three things than three bottles that do one thing very well. Personally, I like CLP for cleaning the barrel of my guns and I like a light coat on the outside to prevent rust. I don't tend to "clean" the working parts with much other than a brush, dental pic, or q-tip or cloth. But I do put Gunbutter on the working parts. I've tried Militec and I didn't think that it was any better than CLP or Gunbutter, but I'm not a Navy SEAL and won't put 1000 rounds through my guns in a single range session. I've used Remington oil and it seemed to work well as a lubricant. But like I said, I prefer Gunbutter.

Yes, look at a Mossberg 500 before you buy an 870 and there are two simple reasons why. Mossbergs have an ambidextrous safety. If you are a lefty, this is a plus. Mossbergs also have a shell lifter that is in the constant up position - meaning all you have to do is drop the shell into the loading port and push it forward. This is a little harder with an 870 since you are pushing down on that duckbill shell lifter to reload. But honestly, you can't go wrong with either one. The debate between 870 owners and Mossberg owners is more akin to brothers who disagree but love each other deep down. Shooting 00 buckshot out of a 12 gauge will be akin to being punched in the shoulder. I don't care how many recoil pads you put on the gun. It's still like getting punched in the shoulder. Semi-auto shotguns help bleed off the recoil a bit, but pumps have no recoil springs. All of that energy is going into your shoulder. But you won't shoot that much buckshot through it anyway. Practice with target load, then put 10-15 rounds of buckshot through it at the end of your range session to get the feel for coming back up on target.

Mazel Tov on the new purchase. 1911's are fine guns.

Hush! You may wake the legislature.

I own the Beretta 92 and I've fired the Taurus. The big difference you'll notice is that the Taurus has a frame mounted safety. They both seemed to shoot the same. Personally either one would do just fine. The Taurus PT92 is good enough for the Brazilian Army. The Beretta M9 is good enough for the American Army. I don't see how you could go wrong either way. However, you can get a .22LR conversion kit with the Beretta 92FS and shoot cheaper ammo. So realize that sometimes there is a cost to $80 cheaper.

Maybe you already have a .22 pistol and don't even know it. By any chance do you have a Glock, Sig P226 or Beretta 92/M9? If so, you can buy a conversion kit that will turn your high-caliber pistol into a .22 pistol.

My take is that OC is necessary because in some places with CC and not OC, you could violate the law by accidentally exposing your gun while reaching for a product on a shelf at the store. Yes, there is a difference between accidentally showing and brandishing, but OC makes that difference smaller.

Ok, gotta weigh in now that I have time. I only keep one gun for home defense, and its a CX4 Storm. A shotgun would be an option for me, but my wife just can't handle it and she doesn't have the hand strength to rack the slide on a pistol either. Believe it or not, I've always felt that the most important accessory on any weapon is a sling. If I have to pick up my child and run with him to a safe part of the house, it will be a lot easier with a sling. (Not that I envision this, but it is possible) I think an ammunition carrier is also important - an unloaded gun will rapidly become somebody else's gun. I think a flashlight is of least importance, although I would rather have and not need. Ok, one final edit. My CX4 is a franken gun with ammo pouches, a flashlight and a laser. I actually think the laser is very useful - not for helping you shoot, but helping you de-escalate so you don't have to shoot. Everybody has seen "Predator." If a laser dot appears on your chest, you know what is coming next. I don't ever want to have an encounter with a bad guy, but as Sun Tzu said, "To win without fighting is best." So if I can ever get a guy to leave without firing a shot, it's a bonus for both of us. So I wouldn't necessarily discount some of the possible add-ons. I can see an advantage to most of them. Although I agree with you about the cruiser grip...

Hush! Do you want to wake the legislature!

IMHO, Governor Christie is a product of his upbringing. There is nothing nefarious about his position. He can no more help his position on firearms than a tiger can help the fact that it is a tiger. I'm reminded of Governor George Wallace, the Alabama Governor who stood in the doorway of the University of Alabama to personally deny blacks the right to register for classes. Governor Wallace once said: "Segregation now, segregation tomorrow and segregation forever!" George Wallace grew up in the segregated south, went to a segregated college and served in a segregated Air Corps during World War II. Can you blame him for for having the views he had? Was he wrong? Yes. Should you take his upbringing into account? Yes. Governor Christie was born in Newark in 1962, just 4 years before New Jersey enacted its FID laws. My guess is that that he may have shot a .22 rifle at summer camp, but he never served in the military or seemed to have any real exposure to firearms. For all of his life, he existed in a world where the FID was required, carry was only done by cops or criminals, and most people simply didn't own guns. In other words, he is just like the other 86% of New Jersey residents: guns just aren't part of his orbit. What advantage does Governor Christie have in supporting firearm owners? None. It will just make 86% of residents mad at him. Now flip that around and imagine a Democratic Governor Sweeny or a Governor Van Drew. They could support firearms rights, get some of the Republican vote and all of the Democrats in the state would vote for them anyway. I hate to break it to you guys, but a Governor Sweeny in 2013 is the best hope we have for FID and a carry reform outside of the courts. The only light I can see on the horizon for this state would happen if President Obama wins a second term. If that happens, Governor Christie would probably run for President in 2016. There is no way in hell that he would carry primaries in the south and midwest without some sort of positive NRA rating. So if President Obama wins reelection in 2012 and Governor Christie wins reelection in 2013, we may see him push for firearm law reform in this state to try to build some sort of record. Quick edit. The only way I could see this political attitude changing in this term is if some sort of New Jersey based Suzanna Hupp arises. Some woman becomes the victim of a crime which a gun could have stopped, and that woman has to be sympathetic to New Jersey residents and politically connected. A situation like that might start an outcry which would sway the Governor, Senator Sweeny and Speaker Oliver to change New Jersey firearms laws. But that would be a perfect storm, and it's hard to imagine that happening.

Take a look at Berettaforum.net . Join the site and go to their marketplace section. You may have to do an interstate transfer, but that is how I got my INOX. Worth every penny.

Charter Arms has a .22 Pathfinder in 2" and 4" barrels where you can get a .22 Magnum cylinder.

See, one would think so. It would make sense, but a safe deposit box in New Jersey isn't a home, business or gun range. You could probably do it at a bank in PA, but not in New Jersey.

I would think that an out of state storage unit would be best. You are going to have to put some of your stuff in storage anyway, and by doing it in PA, you are skirting the transport problems that would be incurred by not transferring your guns to a home, business or gun range.

I don't think you can go wrong with either gun, although the recoil will be significantly less in the PX4 because of the rotating barrel, and as a bonus, you can get the Flat Dark Earth PX4 SD and pretend you are Leonardo DiCaprio in "Inception."

This works well too.... (hint, hint)

+1 on this. The M&P9 is an excellent firearm.

Welcome, brother. Get a big safe. One gun turns into nine real easy... and it gets interesting when you wife takes over half the safe for her jewelry. The Beretta 92FS is a fine handgun, and for that matter, so is the Model 60.

Well, those Brits in that apartment could just dust off that old Third Amendment and ... oh, wait, never mind.

A pump-action shotgun is probably one of the simplest guns you will ever own. Put a little lube on the moving parts and you will be just fine. I occasionally shoot skeet with a Mossberg 500 and I can't remember the last time I cleaned it - when the action starts get gummed up, it's a signal that it needs to be cleaned.