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I'm one of those flaming liberals... but I'm a flaming liberal with a shotgun and prejudice toward orange clay disks. We should keep in mind that the two people who are keeping a lid on any new firearms laws in NJ are liberal democrats: Senators Sweeny and Van Drew. Political persuasion does not necessarily mean that you shouldn't be able to protect yourself... or bust some clays.

The PX4 Compact is the "Goldielocks" of Berettas. Not too big. Not too small, recoils like a cream puff, takes NJ legal 15 rounders. I have carried it in PA in an IWB Remora holster without any trouble under casual clothes in PA. I would still get a Beretta 92FS purely for the .22 LR conversion kit, but the PX4 Compact is close to perfect for a hammer-fired - DA/SA gun.

IMHO you just bought the finest striker-fired polymer pistol on the planet. Enjoy. And you can get stock 15 rounders from here: http://www.gandrtactical.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=39498

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+1 to this. JB Weld is amazing stuff.

You can't go wrong with a Glock 19, Sig P226 or Beretta 92FS as a first gun. I prefer the Beretta 92, although I would also look into the PX4 Compact. One advantage of the Beretta 92 is that you can get a conversion kit for the gun and shoot .22LR ammo. If you thought 9mm was cheap... I actually kept the plastic guide rod in my 92FS and there is a very simple reason why. I think that plastic guide rod is "better." If you have a steel guide rod and you accidentally bend it (let's say you drop the gun while the slide is open), you are running the risk of the gun jamming with a bent guide rod. This won't happen with a plastic rod. Theoretically, the plastic guide rod could melt if the gun gets too hot, but I wouldn't worry about that unless you intend to put 1000 rounds through the gun without stopping.

Anytime. I don't have a Glock for you to shoot, but you can rent one from the range. You are free to shoot everything else I have, though. PM me when you want to go. I usually go every Tuesday.

I also have a 10/22 dressed up to look like an M1 Carbine. It's good enough for now.

Where are you in South Jersey? There are a few good ranges in Philadelphia, and you are more than welcome to meet me there when I go there to shoot. Ditto for Ft. Dix. PM me if you are interested. I live in Cherry Hill. You can't go wrong with a Glock 19, Sig P226 or Beretta 92FS. Shoot everything you can get your hands on, a gun that "feels good" in your hands may feel entirely different when you actually shoot it.

+1 send this.

Take a look at Newjerseyhunter.com . The guys there will be more than happy to help a new Hunter get started.

I think we did do this once... didn't NJ have a Naval Militia a few years back? NJ eliminated them shortly after the terrorist attacks when the state suddenly woke up and realized that they had a bunch of people with no military experience running around as admirals in small boats looking for terrorists? I'm also kind of confused... doesn't Arizona already have a National Guard? Is this a way to do an end run around paying Guardsmen by finding volunteers who will do it for free?

Regarding the M&P... All I can say is that it's beautiful. Did you put that aftermarket OD stuff on, or did you buy it like that? I'm not an AR kind of guy - I like wood, but wow... just wow. How much did that M&P set you back?

I will admit that there is a difference between *wanting* to carry and *needing* to carry. If you are ever at a point where you *need* to carry in your home, you should seriously consider moving if able. It's 9:46 right now as I type this. I took the day off to take my kids to school, fix my toilet and do a couple of errands around the house. This is prime time for burglary in Cherry Hill. The landscapers are out. The bad guys can throw on a ratty t-shirt and hat, and start knocking on doors under the guise of soliciting landscaping or collecting payment. And they can try door handles and... So carrying in your home is not necessarily a bad idea. It's also the only place to practice unless you own a business. Here's the thing with carrying: if you choose to do so, you will have to alter your dress, your life, and probably your typical choice of gun. If you lounge around in running shorts, the fact is that you won't be carrying a Beretta 92. My suggestion would be to go with something small and light Ruger LCR / LCP / LC9/ Beretta Nano/ PF9. Throw the gun in a Remora clipless holster and lounge around all you want. If you choose to get a bigger, heavier gun like a Glock 19 or 26 and you want to carry around the house while wearing running shorts - its not going to happen unless you wear a shoulder holster or you switch your lounge wear to cargo pants or maybe those lightweight Colombia hiking pants. Part of the whole gun-owner thing is being a good neighbor. If you are discrete and don't turn into "that guy," I have no problem with it. But you are not going to be discrete in a shoulder holster ... unless you throw a suit jacket on with your running shorts. And then the neighbors are really going to talk.

You are 100% allowed to carry your gun round your property. Open, concealed or in a mix. If you own a business, you can carry around your business (think of a liquor store owner or a Jeweler keeping a gun on him). Now the real question is *do* you want to be that guy carrying on your property. It's probably perfectly OK if you live on a farm in Salem and you always have your .22 on you to keep the foxes away from chickens or whatever. But you may want to rethink this if you live in Bound Brook. How you carry depends on what you get and your body type. What do you plan on getting? What is your body type like? And we can take it from there.

IMHO, a .38 with a 4" barrel is probably the best gun to get if you don't plan on shooting much. You can use it for target shooting and practice and still use it for home defense if you ever had to. If he absolutely wants a snub nose, I would suggest that he look at one of the Charter Snubbies that is DAO - you can't screw that up and they are cheap. If he wants a 4" model (which I would suggest), get a Taurus Model 82. Now I know I'm violating one of the holy grails here: you always suggest the SP101, but NIB they are too expensive. If your friend is just going to shoot once while, or throw it in a dresser and hopefully never shoot it at all, a Charter or Taurus will work just fine. Best of luck.

Take a look at the Auto Ordnance 1911's as well. They are in your price range and made in the USA.

You know what, I stand corrected. I missed the "M" part. They don't, at least in the 9mm and .40 cal. I'm glad you brought that up.

Promag and National Magazine both make 15 round Springfield XD magazines. They are in stock at Midway USA. I would post a link, but work blocks Midway USA.

I've never had a problem. The guys at CHPD are good guys. Part of their problem is that people are buying guns in Cherry Hill at an incredible rate. The last time I called, they had at least 40 permits outstanding. And they only have 1 detective and 1 civilian processing them. My suggestion is to do what I do. Get 3 permits every 6 months. That way you always have one on hand in case something you like comes up. I shoot at Ft. Dix and Firing line. Where do you shoot at?

I've always found it amazing how my 8 year old can run through the house like a tornado - break furniture, hit his brother and talk back. But when he goes to the range with his .22 Cricket, he is safe, courteous, helpful and obeys the rules. The only thing I can think of is that he knows that when I give him an instruction at the range - I'm serious. A box of .22 ammunition, my two boys, and an afternoon at Ft. Dix are about the closest I ever hope to see of heaven until G-d decides otherwise.

Regardless of what we think about the gun laws of this state and the hand that troopers have in obfuscating them, I have nothing but the utmost respect for the NJSP. They always look squared away and I've seen nothing but courtesy and professionalism when I've interacted with them.

Ok, the .45 part threw me off and had me scratching my head. Yes, you are right about the differences between the FNP and FNS. If Brick Armory is willing to pin the magazines, go for it. My friend bought an M&P9 from Hagues and it came with 10 rounders. He was cursing all the way to the internet to purchase the 15 rounders from S&W. Although I salute S&W for serving the New Jersey market and manufacturing 15 rounders. The only FN I've fired is the Hi Power, but I've handled the FiveSeven and FNP. They felt like ... polymer guns. I have not fired them, so I can't give an honest opinion.

As far as I know, FN does not make an FNS-45. Could you have handled an FNP Instead? If you were handling the FNS-9, I would be reluctant to purchase it - namely because it comes with 17 round magazines, which means that you get the 10 rounders for New Jersey. IMHO it's better to purchase a Glock 19, Sig P226, Beretta 92 or a PX4 compact and get the 15 round capacity that those guns offer. But if you *love* it, buy it. Life is too short to shoot something somebody else suggested you buy.

Hi, Rich, You are OK to bring your long guns into NJ without an FID as long as you are traveling *directly to* your new home. Once you get your FID, you can drive around with an unloaded longarm or shotgun in your trunk with no fixed destination. I think NY has an "assault weapons" ban that is similar to NJ, but you may wish to run your list of guns by us to be sure first. Welcome to New Jersey.