Old School

Tony- It looked like he had a pistol in his right hand that went off...

Sounds reaonable!

If you don't mind...What did it cost before tax and stuff. $499 MSRP is what's stated on their site.

65 years old! Good for him! Truth...As I become more senior I realize the need for a firearm for self defense.

Mark - The brass base/case head may be enough of a heatsink. I'm waiting for some of the munitions engineers that we have on the forum to chime in. Yep we have some professionals on this forum that get paid for developing this stuff.

I'm almost done reading the book and the NPR review just about covers it all.

This is not entirely accurate...if it matters STI ships the fire control parts (same ones as used in the Trojan) to the Philippines. Then Armscorp assembles the pistol with their slide, barrel, frame marked STI. Then it comes back to Texas and QA inspects the pistol. They're alot of bang for the buck and the Philippines doesn;t build shabby pistols anyway.

I'm reading the book now. Very interesting.

Same rear sight height?

From GLOCK all the 9mm guns have the same sight height. Not that that helps....

Welcome. Well you either have to move or change your name. We already have one Mark from Vernon....

I just broke my own personal record of recent times. Applied in Jefferson Twp on 12/13/11 had 3 P2P on 1/17/12. So what is that 35 days? Outstanding! Now the only time I used to get them faster was when I used to hunt with the police chief. That was apply in the morning and pick up the next day. But those were different times and I even had a full carry permit in Jersey believe it or not...

My opinion is obvious. GLOCK 19. 15 rounds, three internal safties, SIMPLE safety training(booger picker off the bang switch and you're safe as in your momma's arms) JUST REMEMBER NO MAGAZINE SAFETY. Pinky extensions are available. Extended mag catch and extended slide stop are mega cheap and if you're a northern guy I'll install them for free. My Go To pistol is a G19 extended slide stop release and extended mag release. Otherwise totally stock.

Only thing Chris is the tubular reciever an cylindrical bolt tend to distribute wear/ 1000's of rounds better than rails.

Just let me say, if you chose a Ruger MK series you will be willing the pistol to your grandchildren when the rest of the pistols these guys mentioned above are merely paper weights.

Remember, especially with lead bullets, to periodically clean your seating die as a build up of lead or other debris will shorten your COL.

If you set your seating die to give you a mean COL, as required, I doubt you'll have any problem. Ogive, as has been mentioned, is the critical measurement and if you actually mearured it, because your seating die seats on the ogive, you would be surprised how accurate it is.

1 Glenn People wouldn't believe the variation there is with even premium bullets. I always thought Seirra were the best and I actually find Hornady more consistant... Go figure...

Very nice Ray. Maybe again when it warms up.

Thanks Paul, I was waiting for you to chime in. That was my take on it as well.

Jefferson Twp took mine as well when I changed my address and gave me a photo copy, for what it's worth.... 8 weeks to get a new card. But on the other hand I just got 3 P2P in 34 days. And they extend them like they are supposed to.

Under-rated is correct Bob. I have a buddy that is a CRAZY benchrest shooter and he shoots nothing but Savages.

OH! Let's just throw some piece of $hit together from the parts bin....

I've never esperienced that. Let's look at the variables. Mike is the constant- agreed? You and I are the variables. He treats me well... He doesn't treat you well. Must be you....