Shane45

Naa just play with the states And actually it is not an SBR!

Well Im gonna drag ya to an IDPA match so you can see what its like to shoot from cover

GRIZ quite right. I use WD40 on my guns. I use it as Griz pointed out or as a flushing agent. I buy it by the gallon and put it in a squirt bottle.

UMP 40

I'm not 100% sure but I think it would be legal because of the DSA reciever. I dont know of any 15 rounders, only 10's for NJ. As to expense, DSA builds arguably a better FAL than the original FN. Its a high quality custom build. A slapped together Century FAL is probably less than half the price. As to the question asked earlier why not the DSA over a SCAR etc. The DSA DID find its way into our current conflicts for some small spec ops groups. But I would venture a guess that its not adopted on a wider scale due to the significant difference in controls which would be rejected and would cause a need for a major retraining undertaking. To add to that I believe there is a caliber interchangability requirement in the solicitation which is not easy on an FAL. BTW, anyone ponies up 1400(firm) clams can have mine Shane

Heres my Jersey Legal DSA SA58c.

A topic I see often is rifle weight. So while in wally world tonight I strolled over to the fishing dept and picked up a cheapie fishing scale. Figured it would be accurate enough to get a general idea. Heres what I found: xcr, Iron sights, no mag 8.5lbs fal, Iron Sights, mag 9.75lbs mws, Elcan Specter DR, mag 12lbs 6940, Buis, mag, aimpoint, surefire 9.5lbs srs, no mag, no bolt, S&B 4X16, Bipod 16lbs ar10, mag, Rings,Sling, no scope, Bipod 16lbs ps90, mag, USSS Sight 7lbs Mossy 500 6.75lbs

Maks: Hey now, I was never anti Mosin! I was anti wacky comparisons of Mosins and AR's! Lunker: I did the same thing to my range bag. Except I cant blame the comp, didnt have one, the muzzle dipped into my bag. Was a lot more damage Caine <---- = Chris? That's it, Im starting a thread for Names to faces to board names. Tired of finding out I met people I was waiting to meet after the fact!!! Krdshrk: I really did dig it! Hitting that apple at 100 with irons is just icing on the cake BBK: Next time brother, next time, the MWS will come out and play

A big thanks to those that were kind enough to let my son rip off a few! And for my trigger time behind the Mosin. Forget effectiveness or accuracy. Im going to buy one just to hear that deep bass thwump! Very satisfying :)Great to meet those I havent met in person before and always good to see those again that I have. Shane

Dont do it! Because after you do, you will hate your crunch and tickers!

I competed against a guy with this. It was very nice.

Theres a difference in telling a gang im not an easy victim vs a shoot on sight enemy for life. If he had popped one it would be the latter. Thats the way gang mentality works. At this point my prediction is the gang will walk away. If he had popped one, that would not be the case. I think some posting here do not understand this dynamic. This is not a standard confrontation here. There is an actual cultural consideration. By not shooting one he likely has saved himself and his family from a life of looking over their shoulder.

MP5

WARNING LINK TO GRAPHIC CONTENT. Here is a single round from an AR to the leg, believed to be M193..... http://www.timawa.net/forum/index.php?topic=17111.0

JMB just through up a little in his grave!!!!!!!!!!!!

Vj, Damage, I get where your coming from. Maybe Im not effectively stating my case. There is effective and then there is EFFECTIVE. So lets talk about what makes a rifle round effective. ENERGY imparted to the target! I could probably go on for 3 pages on this topic and not scratch the surface so I am going to highlight a few talking points. Bullet weight, diameter and velocity are the key factors. Diameter plays a much larger role in non fragmenting lower velocity rounds. So in yesteryear engagements the 7.62X39 had an advantage due to its larger diameter, much like in ball ammo the .45 is better than the 9. (BALL AMMO ONLY is this significantly relavent). Now in the world of rifle rounds another KEY element is rifle twist. What the hell does that have to do with the price of tea in China you ask? Because since ball tends not to frag, the twist rate and bullet design dictate at what depth the bullet will start to yaw. Give a twist rate that drills neat holes through the target and it doesnt impart energy to the target. Bad performance. Modern soviet ammo is more like a 5.56 than a 7.62 and is reportedly far more effective than what it replaced do to a design and twist rate that yields high yaw effects on its projo in its wounding characteristics. Now lets talk today. The American Medical Association I believe (feel free to research and verify and let me know if my factoid is wrong) defines a projectile as high power if it exceeds 2000 fps. the 7.62 barely does this where the 5.56 exceeds it by over 1000fps. Whats the relevance? The relevance is that trauma surgeons have noted and documented that projo's exceeding 2000fps create such shockwaves in tissue to be able to create massive trauma in tissue untouched by the projo. Breaking bones, destroying organs etc etc. Add modern 5.56 ammo designed to frag into this equation of 3200fps and the effects are devistating! I have reviewed a number of 5.56 shooting and what I can tell you is that it looks like a mini grenade was set off in the subjects! I would argue and contend that with the exception of a few 55grn fmj yesterywar rounds, the 5.56 is a much more effective round. In summery, be it 5.56, 7.63X39 or ANY caliber/cartridge for that matter, just as you match the weapon to the mission, the ammo selection is just as important!

Theres only 1 piston AR that I would even consider. Its the LMT. Now back to effectiveness. I think you are FAR underestimating 5.56 effectiveness with quality ammo available to civi's or even newer more effective mill issue ammo....

90% in to jam doesnt sound like a mag issue to me. Thats even past the point of a typical 3 point jam. It sound to me like a short chamber possibly. But this is a SWAG without seeing it. Any marks left on the round?

Your right! Pete does make actual self defence 7.62X39. New factoid assimilated

Yaknow, your post got me to thinking. It happens LOL. Does anyone make actual performance 7.62X39? I prefer 5.56 to begin with but when you consider how much performance 5.56 is available to us civilians.... that may be a serious advantage. I would take civy performance 5.56 over milsurp 7.62X39 ALWAYS. We all read so much about military operations that it is easy to forget we are not limited in our selections.

Why, 1 miss enough for ya

I'll place a bet he aint going no where. Not even in NY. Again, taking the story at face value. WE as a shooting oriented group have our own views and training regarding warning shots. BUT all he has to say is I feared for my life but decided a warning shot before I took someones life seemed like a good idea to stop the approach of a gang with a violent history. My money says a jury would accept this. In THIS, let me say this again, THIS case, I can see potential value in the warning shot and I see value in standing your ground outside. At the point he was at he is targeted either way, it makes little difference. Hiding inside would likely have only emboldened the gang much like when a rabbit runs from a pack of dogs. That group only knows and respects direct action. Anything less marks you as prey.

Its f'ing rediculas. That dept is opening its self up for a wrongful arrest if you ask me. I cant think of ever reviewing a clearer case of disparity of force..... Of course these comments are made taking the story at face value.

Drop a few more bucks and get a non commie gun from me

One Shot One Mission seems an odd slogan for a semi!