Shane45

Go Seekins. Proven track record WITH ambi's for even money. This set actually looks like a Seekins copy IMO. Seekins lower below.

Thanks for the reply. It would be 308 but I dont shoot from a sled. And my bolt gun is a 338lm so I probably don't want to use that even if an exception was made for it (being over .323). Regards, Shane

Single round feed even for those shooting semiauto?

M1T, I promise you Im not picking on you. But you raise a concern about over pen in a home environment and then name your preferred goto's which are high risk over penetrators... just seems contradictory. At this time I do believe there are now 308 loads that address over penn but I think they are pretty new to the market. So it may be doable.

To the op, a consideration. Since SHTF is a stated concern. Can you ID a target, friend or foe at 100 yds? I can hit a lot farther than 100 with a RDS. But I can NOT discern much intel at 100 or greater with a red dot. Also, something often overlooked, lighting conditions. On a nice sunny day with the sun directly overhead, indeed I can hit easily with a red dot. But change that to bad conditions or the sun being in front of you casting a lot of shadows towards you, at least for me, that greatly reduces the effective range of my RDS. With magnification, I can cut through those lighting issues. Shane

M1Thumb, combat effectiveness practically has little relevance once you cross the boundary over to the civilian side. We aren't constrained by the Hague. I can use whatever ammo I want. There is a huge difference in the performance of military ball ammo and the tactical ammo available to the civilian market. Additionally testing has proven, repeatedly, that 5.56 is actually excellent at not over penetrating. Many tests have shown it way ahead of even most handgun calibers in that regard.

What did I learn from Walking Dead this season?: Gun Registration is BAD! The first act of subjugating a people is their disarmament! Straight from the history books folks. The producers of this show have it right!

I would take a Colt 6920 over most other brands. I do believe that the colt build is superior to many others in the same price range.

Hmmm its says Colt and AR15........me thinks that's a problem here.

Man I type slow

Match ammo vs match ammo price is very close. Barrel life is not. But we live in the land of 300 yds max at the vast majority of ranges here. Gravity is consistent so does it really matter if your bullet dropped 300 or 400 inches at 1000yds on a KD range? Drift. This is indeed a significant advantage of the 6.5. But it is still a skill you need to learn. Are you good enough to make a wind call that the 5" difference between the two at 500 yds matters? Keep in mind you will still need to compensate for both! A 5mph error in wind call is roughly 8" @ 500 for 6.5. Look, I like the 6.5. Ive shot them for over 8 years now, way before they became all the rage. But in our area, I would not thumb my nose at a 308 just because its a 308. To put it plainly, at the level of expertise most of us are at, it just doesn't matter much and a case could be made for learning on a cartridge that will teach you all you need to know about drop and drift. So while learning, which requires a solid amount of shooting(some say about 5k rounds to learn a specific rifle/caliber), it might not be a bad idea to be shooting the rifle that has long barrel life. When you reach the point of struggling to remain competitive or when it really matters, by all means go 6.5. The RPR factory barrels don't have that great of a rep, so cutting your teeth on the 308 and then having the option to go 6.5 with a custom barrel from the likes of LRI later is a good plan IMO.

What is the point in shooting milsurp out of a precision rifle?

Some prefer the old version, others prefer the new. The odd angles of the old one (fore grip, charging handle, pic rail) were irritations to me. I like them much better on the new one, being straight.

An observation from a long time in this industry. The general public forgets that it is a business. There always seems to be a feeling that everyone in the gun industry is independently wealthy and is in a position to provide little to no profit pricing to all the brethren of fellow shooters. I can tell you that almost everyone I have come in contact with in the industry is fundamentally a pro gun person who DOES believe in the brotherhood. Many do everything they can to support their fellow shooter. But at the end of the day, they still need to turn a profit, put food on the table and pay the bills just like you do. Did everyone get all bent out of shape when gold went up $140's an ounce over night due to Brexit? Does anyone watch the prices on electronics when Christmas looms? Let this sink in. IT IS A FREE MARKET! As such, you need to make money when you can. Savvy businesses will maintain a balance between profit and customer retention. Is everyone going to run out and buy guns now? Are you going to buy without need now to support your local gunshop? Concern buying is likely done for America at least for the next 4 years. If businesses didn't make money recently, they may not survive what is sure to be a flattening market. But back to the offence taken by many. I may be offended if I need to flee an area and they want $20 a gallon of gas. And I would consider that gouging. But a minor pricing fluctuation is just business for EVERY business. And as a free market you are always free to say thank you kindly but I think I will continue to shop around. No need to be butt hurt or offended.

Here is my big question. What happens if Christie accepts a position under Trump? Does he give up his Governorship? Does this put us in jeopardy much sooner than expected?

In celebration of our victory and a tip of the hat to MidwestPX who has been a great vendor to deal with measured in years, I going to go burn up some of that ammo stock pile ASAP!!!!!!

1 point to consider. If you didn't have your shelves full and the things you really wanted waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay before election day, you should pay triple for being so woefully unprepared!

I second Seekins!

Hmmm I have a bunch of non reloadable brass. Wonder how that would come out as the impregnated covering Edited: Retyped as I have no idea how it turned into a quote of myself :/

No, its OK, just want to make sure I am communicating my thoughts clearly Not always the case when some of my posts are late at night

Trust is of paramount importance! We do not give power to a psych, butler, or Rabbi over us like we do Law Enforcement. I don't believe I have directed anything at LE, at least not the rank and file. Top brass in some agencies that seem to be much more politician than Cop may be another matter entirely.

Maybe, but I still worry about it. I mean everything else he did is tanking so badly at 11:59 he may just not care and go all Jahadi on the 2nd as a final FU to republicans!

Well, is it beyond the possibility that to keep Hillary "The Con" Clinton from looking bad at the start of her term (if she is elected), for Obama to rip off an executive order on his way out the door?

jandj, what you describe is what has punched a big hole in the trust between citizen and LE in my view. In my lifetime there is a big difference between LE interaction when I was young, and they had the ability to impart curb side justice or make judgment decisions to now where very little is up to them. So the unintended consequence is that Mr. Career criminal has bargaining chips and Mr. citizen caught up in the system doesn't. This is wrong. But I digress, my original point is that I understand and accept getting more police work done by turning cons, however, I do not accept that the final sentencing of the career criminal especially given his charges, is out of alignment with sentences issued to people clearly ensnared in the system with no criminal history.

So we can all agree that lawyers and judges are the issue! Griz, by your own statements I get the sense you agree the sentence is not really where it should be, and that LE can certainly be driven to apathy by courts that seem bent on providing a revolving door to career criminals. But that same court seems to take a position of being appalled and "needs to make an example" of those citizens caught up in inflexions of interpretation of the law. No cases come to mind where these people had ANY priors. I do NOT forget the constitutional protections provided to all. I did get a B+ in Constitutional law and rules of evidence . But there is an issue when mr. career criminal is getting greater consideration than joe citizen who is arguably entrapped by NJ laws.