Shane45

Well if price is a concern skip mud city too! I felt ........violated after eating there LOL. Il have to try Tuckers myself! I dont think I have eaten there.

I am very fond of LA's on rt 72 on your way to the Island. Excellent food at reasonable prices.

DO NOT FORGET YOUR LIFE JACKET!

A couple random observations... The sterngth of the rail as it may be applied to fighting. In my opinion THIS is really not a concern. What is more of a concern when talking about the strength of a rail is for the rails themselves to resist bending when attachments are on them and you do something like fall on them! Or the integrity of the rail to resist flex and move your optics or accuracy sensitive attachments like a DBAL under sling pressure. As for the structural strength of the rail in a strike, I think any rail is likely strong enough. Its not the rail I would worry about. Its the interface with the reciever its self. If it uses some weak thin interface, this will likely be the point of failure. Monolithic VS interupted rail. I personally like monolithic rails. But this is because I play with a metric ton of optics and mounting solutions so the mono rail makes it easy for me but there is a weight penalty. Weight of the system. I have played with both ends of this spectrum. I know I do not like a heavy rifle, but the funny thing is I do not like an exceptionally light one either! A well balenced rifle hovering around 8 lbs all in is what works best for me. This is not an opinion that is based solely on feel. On the clock shooting consistant drills amongst all the platforms, my speed and accuracy is faster with the rifle that weighs a bit more. Counterintuitive, I know, but I know what feels right and the clock and the targets dictate whats working. I like the sopmod stock. I like it for its feel. I also like the ACS which feels the same but is a bit less weight. But if the length was just right, Id just use a standard A2 being we are in Jerseystan! A last note, I find firearms to be distinctly personal choices. And it is usually a long road littered with resales and lost money until you arrive at what works for you. And the second you think you got it figured, many times you dont as you stumble on to another way of addressing the solution that is better than what you were doing. And of course the tacticool world of AR's is avast wasteland of snake oils which certainly complicates matters. But in the end we all want the very best equipment we can aquire. But sometimes you have to take a hard look at what difference is it really going to make for you, especially if your working wihin a budget. I can assure you that if I go play golf with a set of clubs from wallmart or if Tiger woods loans me his personal bag, it will make no difference in my game. So my general advice would be KISS theory. Keep it simple, keep it built with quality components focusing on the barrel, bolt group and trigger and a kown good reciever set. Everything else is likely to change. I think there is merit to the position that in the upper end of AR's it simply might not be a worthy pursuit to build your own. Based on the criteria presented (budget unknown) a KAC SR15-E3 or a Danial Defence M4V3 would fit the bill and be an excellent rifle.

Tactical Monkey, at your range anything made after 1950 is tacticool!!!!

But it is neither semi auto nor is the upper from Barrett. Im well aware of the caliber. I quote you: "You still need a 450 Bushmaster, 458 SOCOM, and a 416 Barrett" (450 and 458 ARE semiauto 416 is not) "And you can get a 416 (or 338 Lapua) Barrett upper." (Barrett does not make a 416 or 338lm upper) Please try and be more accurate in your statements! I suspect it would have looked like this if your thoughts were more organised, You still need uppers in 450 bushmaster and 458 Socom and perhaps one of those single shot 416 Barrett uppers from Zel Custom. Do try and keep up Ray. It gets booring proving you wrong at every turn!

Sorry Ray, when you call check mate and dont actually have it, you loose! That is a single shot upper and decidedly not from Barrett. Read carefully. Semi auto and from Barrett were the discusion points....

You won diddly squat Ray. Barretts AR is the Rec7. Please show me the 416 or 338lm upper from Barrett. The only uppers available from them are in 5.56 and 6.8.

There is nothing unsafe about firing fast unless they are accompanied by a lack of control and accuracy. Its funny when the RO flags you for fast fire and says hey you aint hitting anything shooting like that and then they look at the target and go OH! Carry on then.

I feared being accused of cruel and unusual punishment

VJ I WILL NOT be deprived of an opportunity to pick on Rachel Ray!

Same? Lets have a look.. A variable vs a fixed 3x by the looks of it. And a mighty might caliber vs a big fatty. Distinctly different. I guess the mag system is similer on them too NOT! How much more different can you get than a mag on top!?!?!?! One is the very unique looking seekins lower. One is not. Are we looking at the same pictures Ray? Ray....sigh..the 416 barrett is not a semiauto ar caliber option.......

I think the readers digest of it is someone sitting on the board of whatever is anti gun and trying to block him based on the type of business it is. In other words pure anti gun discrimination!

Well Im hear to tell you, YOU, and those like you are why NJ 2nd amendment rights are in the toilet. You care about your 2 square inches and not the greater picture. Sad really..... To add lib: When they came for the black rifles I didnt care because I shoot shotguns. When they came for the bolt action rifles I didnt care because I shoot shotguns When they came for the pistols I didnt care because I shoot shotguns When they came for the revolvers I didnt care because I shoot shotguns When they came for the shotguns there was no one left to care....

RSV, seriously, this is your position?

Let me list a few I would wants and wouldnt wants to try and illustrate. But of course these are based on my sensebilities. I would want: Hitlers suicide gun Any battlefield weapon regardless of condition. In particuler I would like one that even has shrapnel embedded in it. Zietsev's sniper rifle or any historical sniper for that matter Pattons pistols I would NOT want Kurt Cobains suck start attempt a weapon used to execute POW's or refugees a weapon used in the killing of children a weapon used to facilitate a rapeetc etc Evil is not magically transfered to the inanimate object. However, I still dont want it. it has nothing to do with superstition. Its simply that it was part of something bad and I dont care to have the association to save a few bucks.....

Kaiser, if you dont see the difference, Im not sure I could explain it to you......

Thats sorta like buying a firearm because you have ammo for it Yeah Ive done that! LOL

Run down a used remy LTR in 5.56. Might take a while to find, but its a good starting point stick with every option under the sun for upgrades.

Here are all "MY" disqualifiers. The reason I dont care for 762x39 in the AR platform is due to the feeding issues associated with it. I hear if your using small capacity mags its not so bad but... I also believe the 300 has a bit more range to it. But the reall beuty of the 300 to me is it is simply a barrel, nothing else required. I have looked at the 458 and 50 beu MANY MANY MANY times over many many many years. It simply lacks adoption and therefore leaves ammo prices in the stratosphere and at the mercy of availability if you dont reload. I really cant speak to the 450 as I really never paid it much attention. But all those calibers of course have a capacity penalty. 6.8. I stopped paying attention to that caliber due to all the issues and a moving target of specification. It would be annoyting to me to always have to be wary of which 6.8 (SPC1 orSPC2)I have and which ammo i have. 6.5. I Like it! But I like .260 better But I think your really in a different class at this point. In fact I would lump them together as: 5.56, 300Blk, 7.62X39 450, 458, 50 Beu 6.8, 6.5 6.5X47, 260, 6.5 Creedmore, 308. But back to the 300 Blk, if you want to sling .30 cal projos with really no penalties, I think this is the best way to do it. I just wish we lived in America so we could enjoy some of the other benefits it offers

Dan, brother, Im not tracking your logic. You raise a concern about the price of 300 Blk ammo which is about $10 a box if you shop around. Avg $11. Then you suggest calibers that are hard as F to find ammo for at times and is in the $30 to $50 per box range in the case of 458 and 50 Beu....??????

I had a retired cop friend offer me a pistol but he said it had history. When I inquired further, it turned out it was a friend of his on the job. He was convicted of child molesting and used it to off himself. It was his duty weapon and it was given to the widow who gave it to my friend. I declined the purchase and told him to run it through the band saw and take it out on his next boat trip and give it a burial at sea. He thought that was a good idea too.....

Well I consider it my duty to speak from actual personal experience so your probably right. But if I do ever pop for one it will likely be the LMT MRP.

You are correct. I have only had 1581's. I had to go look as I know a few people with 7mm WSM builds on 591's apparently there are 591'sand 591wsm's. I just assumed they were long for 7mm WSM's as the 7mm wsm dont really work to well in short actions. But the wsm action is altered for this purpose. The point of course was I was going to suggest 7mm WSM The only other action I think is equal to the Surgeon is the PGW.as far as remmy clones go.

Long or short on #3? I'm quite fond of Preston's work