Shane45

If your frame was a single stack, this is a better path.

Show me an original design in the last 75 years! Just about everything is based off of something that came before it including the whisper.The 300 whisper was NOT designed to be suppressed. Suppression was one of its design elements but it was not the driving factor. Knowing JDJones, Im sure hunting was a primary consideration. It is not based off of the 5.56 case, although very close, it is not the same. Where the whisper falls short IMO is the need for a different bolt in the AR platform. The 300 Blk uses a standard bolt.

Looks like something those tards from American Guns would put together!

It only took me 8 months to convince you Yet oddly I still dont have one

Its legel to own in NJ. Its not legel to do anything with it other than hold down paper on your desk apparently.

Because its so easy to support. There is really no penalty for shooting a 30 cal projo. Upper, lower, mags, bolt, bolt carrier, ALL the same as a standard ar. Only diff is the barrel. The mil and agencies are all over it becuase it doesnt give up performance out of short, short barrels like a 5.56 or 308 does. That and they just cant fix the MP5's any more. So to get a rifle cartridge in a package the same size as a subgun and so easily and $$$$ supported is a big win. Then thres the ammo. Ever price out 458 or 50 WHEN you can even find it available? YIKES!

The 300Blk is probably the first new comer cartridge that I actually believe is here to stay and will conitnue to gain popularity very quickly. Ive played with a number of them but adopted none(grendal, beowulf,6.8, 458. The 300Blk will be the first.

Your a little light for a SCAR16..... For a SCAR you should be ready to drop 2k at least.

OK I took a quick look at the saami drawings. It looks to me, trying to keep all the call out numbers in my head and since I dont have photo shop on this lappie to make an overlay, that there is about .1 length where the 5.56 would need to swage in about .02 to make it in the chamber.

OK. I can see how we got a little off track here, no biggie... "What part of "I don't think" are you interpreting to be an absolute statement? Prior to this latest post, I didn't think firing a .223 from a .300 AAC would be any different than firing a .357 SIG from a .40 pistol." I actually took your statement as academic and thought someone else may not understand that. Without actual annalysis I might agree with you. What I mean to say is if you hand loaded a round in to the chamber from the breach this may indeed be the case(357sig/40). I suspect, again without really looking at the drawings that it is the longer oal of the 5.56 making the turn into the chamber that causes the danger. This is purely speculative on my part.but the big difference I see between the two cartridges is the oal. So I suspect making the turn from mag to chamber is what actually causes the bullet set back by hitting the roof of the shorter chamber and subsequent pressure spike fireing a compressed damaged round.. Just a theory but I dont have a 300blk on hand to fiddle with at the moment.

Big Hayden, you dont need a chrystal ball to know you werent there. And having not been there I dont understand how you can state what did or didnt happen"The OP never chambered the .223 round in his .300 AAC". Im not sure why you are taking such an adversarial position but the fact of the matter is your comment "I don't think firing a .223 from a .300 AAC rifle would do any damage" could be interpreted as there is no danger in this. This would appear to be wrong. I have found information on 3 kabooms so far from 223 rounds making it into a 300 black. Apparently some rifles are able to push the 223 round back into the casing to make the turn to load in the chamber in a bullet setback(and probably very crooked in my estimation), compressed state.

BH no it was not said but did in fact occur. Since you were not there I am unsure how you can so emhatically state it did not. Since I assembled the OP's 300 black upper, I might have a little insight as to what went on edited for clarity

I havent reviewed the drawing but based on the fact the rifle was able to drop the hammer, its close enough to make me uncomfortable for sure.

Yeah well it would be a problem if it allowed the rifle to be fired just out of battery!!!!

The revolver that killed brandon lee was real. The idiot in charge put real heads in with primers. The primer drove the bullet into the barrel. So when the scene came around for a blank for muzzle flash effect, the projo was still in the barrel of the real revolver.

High, being able to make hits isnt the only task at hand. Hell I can hit to 300 with irons! What I cant do is ID the target friend or foe at 200 or more. And if the sun is foward of the target or the target is shadowed or obscured, the distance I can hit with a red dot or irons is greatly reduced. In terms of speed, that may be true of the TA01 (an acog I absolutely do not care for) but not true of other models. My times on the clock between red dot and my TA33 25 yards and out are almost identical. But when those distances start to hit the 100 yard mark and out, the times with the ACOG take a large leap ahead.

You rang?

Well I think we are all in agreement. Now if SJSC would push their range out to 1k like they say they are going to, we would have somewhere in reasonable distance to go practice!!!!!! I consider myself the forever student. Unfortunatly do to the rather short nature of NJ ranges, precision rifle is the one I get to practice the least.

Nick, knowing the amount of dedication specopsscout has behind long range shooting, I hold his opinion on the topic in high regard. In addition I agree with him. Heres why. Take 10 good shooters that are good with ranging. Take 5 and give them leica's and take 5 and make them do manual ranging. UKD out to 1200 and I bet the 5 with the electronics will outperform the ones without. It becomes a matter of consistancy and accuracy in bisecting mills. Ranging is difficult! Now let me make sure you understand that I am NOT saying replace the manual skillset with electrinics, I am not. I am saying that the rangefinder can bring a better level of accurate range estimation over manually doing it for a good rifleman. Take a great rifleman and the results may vary. But a great rifleman skilled with the use of his electrnic rangefinder will be MUCH faster on target than himself without. Keep in mind that since we are talking about military snipers, they arent carrying around a bushnell rangefinder, they are carrying ones approaching the price of your car!

Hehehe well not to make excuses but at the same time these went out several hundred parts where also going out so they were a bit lumber dumped

And anither EXCELLENT!

Well.... its a nice theory but... you will likely end up with both

Excellent! Guys just remember a couple things. The system is adjustabel to deal with rails that are over/under spec. To close the latch you must push the button. This was a SOCOM requirement. Apparently with other systems optics were regulerly going flying when operators thought they closed the latch and didnt. This way you are forced to do it. If anyone has any trouble adjusting theirs let me know and I will help. It does not take a lot to hold it tight and repeatable so you should not have to apply a lot of ofrce to close it. Thanks everyone! Shane

"Based on your evasiveness and the large quantity of money a judge most likely will give me a warrant." The only way your getting a warrent based on that is if you the prosecuter and the judge all play golf together every sunday! I seriously doubt that evasiveness and a lot of cash is enough to establish a basis to believe a crime is present. I have carried up to 30k on my person. Aside from that it is pretty clear that this town is running a tourist trap of sorts and is plainly dispicable/criminal if all events and details as reported are accurate. In the end it is always your right to say I dont wish to be detained, am I free to go?

As always with optics, it depends on what your trying to achieve. If you want the highest speed 0 to 50 Aimpoint is the way. If you can sacrifice a tiny bit of speed from 25 to 50 yds and a bigger speed penalty under 25 , the capabilities you pick up with the Acog out to 300 may be worth the trade off.