Shane45

"kriss is israeli." I suspect you are confusing it with the Tavor......

The manufacturing here thing for FN is probably more a 922r thing than anything else....

Nothing will be a game chaneger in this arena until there is a true departure from current technology. I for one would like to see caseless ammo revisited. THAT would be a game changer......

Post updated! Just a heads up I will be traveling the rest of today so I will be offline.

The Ducati and I will likely be there

Very good, thank you.

got a TON of pm's. I dont think i missed anyone but if you didnt hear from me please pm again.

Guys, I am considering doing another group buy. Have a contract for an agency coming up and so we are doing a run of these again. Aimpoints are heavily backordered but because its going to an agency I can do a reasonable number of over runs . I was thinking 5. PM me for price as I cant post the price publicaly. The time frame is dictated by Aimpoint but it is expected to be about 4 weeks. We should have the QD mounts done by the time they arrive. Ill post some pics up as soon as I can. Shane ps. When I give the price it doesnt include tax where applicable or if you need it shipped. If your a reguler at the NJ2AS meetings I can always bring it along. Thanks. UNITS WILL BE BLACK!!! 4 units of the 5 are spoken for. 1 unit left. ALL SOLD OK Guys, I think 3 of the 5 are spoken for. IF I have checks in by monday for more than 5 I can increase the order but my order has to go in on monday. PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU INCLUDE TAX! 595 + tax is 636.65. Send your checks too: Ops2 PO Box 785 Forked River, NJ 08731 PM or email me any questions. [email protected]

Well I dont know if he just got lucky or what but ive seen it tested enough times that it seems to be, as a general rule, about right. But I dont see how it can be applied as you describe. Bottom line if I have my gun out our or Im about to, it aint because someone is within 21 feet of me. Its more to do with the blood soaked 14" knife in thier hand.....

Who cares! Its a concept like anything else. I dont take anythingI can easily test myself for granted. Maybe for you its 24 ft. For me its about 14 if Im aware and ready, 25 if Im not.

Because there are bad people in NJ.

Let me spell it out for you. If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States. In other words the management company specifically looking to eliminate a group of people from living there by targeting a constitutional right is oppressive. I guess you didnt think segregation was oppressive either..............

Interesting. Thanks for the update. What was the brightness if the unit you recieved or did you not put the battery in it?

Matt in your case I fully understand you have a verbal dont ask dont tell. Im talking about it purely academically at this point. Glad it worked out for you.

Well since it is in fact a management co. there really could be a case made against this practice in my opinion. Again, http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241 "If two or more persons conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person in any State, Territory, Commonwealth, Possession, or District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his having so exercised the same; or If two or more persons go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege so secured— They shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results from the acts committed in violation of this section or if such acts include kidnapping or an attempt to kidnap, aggravated sexual abuse or an attempt to commit aggravated sexual abuse, or an attempt to kill, they shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, or both, or may be sentenced to death."

The only one behaving oddly is your dad........

If you dont understand what Im asking you, that means you dont understand that the 2nd amendment has been incorporated. In one of your links one of the posters specifically names the 2nd's incorporation as a position that to require a forfiture of your rights it in a lease is likely an issue.

I dont have the time, energy or inclination to type a full lesson on the common scources of law and how just and unjust laws are determined. You will have to go do that research or take the class for yourself. No where I know of in the US is rape and murder legal. And your example is bad because those actions are civil rights violations on the recieving party of said rape and murder. But dodge and deflect as you may, you still dont seem to want to speak to the question of why some rights are ok to violate and not others?

By they way since it is brought up in one of your links, you are aware the 2nd has been incorporated right?

You say the other examples are far fetched but funny thing is they are all on the same parchment of paper granting these rights!!! How can you logically argue that being asked to give up one right is ok and the others is an exageration? Your heading down the slippery slope of blind obedience. There is no legal duty to obey an unjust law. Why do you think there is one to obey a contract that has overstepped its legal reach by requiring the tennant to give up a civil right?

I see. So if the landlord puts in the lease that as a condition of living here you must vote democratic, not republican, thats ok? How about if he puts in the contract that as a condition of living here you give up your right to a trial by jury? How about if its a woman your not allowed to vote at all? What your failing to recognise is it is an issue to try and contract someone to give up a civil right!

Are you a gun control inc plant or what? You have no moral issues for those wanting to deny a right to others but are full of piss and vinigar for those that dont want to succumb to it? Or are you just stomping your feet because no one agrees with you?

My non lawyer opinion is that either way its uninforcable as contracts that violate civil rights tend to be. In fact I think that the property owner could potentially be in violation of the law. Especially if its something like a HOA, condo association or apartment complex under management. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/241

If I were dealing illegal guns out of the appartment that would be criminal If I were housing all my LEGAL guns in my apartment after I signed a renters agreement saying I wouldnt, that would be a breach of contract. Is the popo going to come and arrest you if you had a cat in the appartment after you signed a no pets agreement? I dont think so!

You guys are heavily confusing criminal statute and breach of contract IMO.........