Shane45

OK Im not a fan of the rifle. Id probably prefer the other one in the pic. It looks like the silouette of a McMillan A5 stock.

On the question of why no police counter measure, this would be a big one since there are verified credible threats of tageting a major event. On the topic of being on the wrong end of a loaded weapon let me ask you this: If your walking behind a ccw wearing his fav Don Jonsen shoulder holster, where is it pointed? If your having a picnic and a ccw is laying on a blanket face down reading a book near you with his feet pointed toward you, where will just about every normal holster have the weapon pointed? If your walking behind a ccw wearing strong side FBI cant holster and he bends over to pick up a dime, where will his weapon be pointed? If you walk by a scaffold and a ccw is above, where? Would you agree this likely happens 1000 times a day? I think this is simply part and parcel with an armed society.......

RBT, there is at least 40 years of overwatch on the books. Can you find a single account of a ND?

KRD then it becomes a choice and the fact of the matter is that if I had a CCW, I would not go anywhere it was not welcome......

"Why coun't some responsible citizens take care of the threat on the other side of the stadium if it erupted near them?" By all means I would love for this to be the case if they were able! But what if the Dallas fans are on one side, and a NJ,NY,Mass team is on the other and the problem breaks out on the anti gun side?LOL "In that case a threat/enemy has been established." I gurauntee you there is a very narrow, very specific ROE in place.

Its not a decision process. I guess if your ever taken hostage by a home invasion, you dont want SWAT/SRT to respond????

I just never made the connection (and still dont) that having a long gunner around has anything whatsoever to do with my rights. To me one has nothing to do with the other. I cant shoot a bad guy on the other side of the stadium with my pistol..... He is there for a specific type of threat. Simple as that. And if I had to pick a point in time that this came from, it would indeed be Munich.

"you would rather give up your rights so that someone else can protect you.. i get that but thats exactly the problem with this country IMHO" Redbow, if that was directed at me, Id LOVE to know how you extrapolated that out of anything I have said......

I think some of you guys think this is a new thing..... I guess you dont ever go to a majore political rally.... The only thing that has changed is public awareness. And frankly I think that is a mistake because someone planning to do bad things may now take countermeasures into account. To call it living in fear is a mistake. Not putting any countermeasure to some terrorist opening up in a crowd with a krink would be a mistake. Evidence of a plan for a terrorist attack of this type has been discovered. Again, whats the down side of having a solution available for a specific type of problem?

To me Id rather have a few around and never have anything happen. But I guess you never know when a Munich type situation could happen. Simply Id rather have it and not need it........

Please elaborate why this is retarded. What exactly is the downside of having a potential tool available that can neutralise a threat if one sould arrise. No threat, then a couple officers have the best seat in the house. What exactly is the down side? This is indeed standard at major events.....

Scope looks to be a USO SN3 Erek. Rifle looks to be a remy in an XLR chassis.

An aquantances kid uses one for competitions. Same thing and worse. His slide cracked too!

An article was done by Ayoob a long time ago cataloging a number of cases that would have been good shoots but turned into BIG trouble for the shooter because they tampered with evidence or the scene. I agree with his stance to not mess with ANYTHING. Forensic science will likely uncover anything wrong and that changes the perception of you imediatly!

I speak fron personal experience HE IS RUDE!

The XD is a re branded HS2000

Guys, IMO opinion it has degraded to banter.The "us them" discussion isnt terribly relative to the topic and in my opinion isnt even being applied corectly here..........lets move on.....

Your naming all my fav's

Some of you guys have your a$$ hairs wound too tight! Lets start burning books, pictures, video games and film cans because these ideas are just to evil to let out!

Which is why network TV is prety much never on when Im watching. And if Discovery Channel, History Channel etc etc dont stop manufacturing drama/reality based TV im gonna push the god dam thing out into the street!

From the review: Goldthwait piercingly examines the devolution of culture: how TV reality shows and the internet have become our primary source of entertainment; the endless stream of banal conversations about pop icons and celebrity gossip that dominate social interactions, sublimating the presumably more difficult concept of conversing thoughtfully; hate-spewing TV and radio personalities and the way in which their ideas come to permeate conversation and thus become acceptable; and, perhaps most of all, the solipsistic view that’s become so ubiquitous in our culture that it’s defined the modern social more for how we act and interact with each other. The core thesis that Goldthwait puts forth in this excellent cinematic philosophical dissertation is that we’ve become a society of ear-bud wearing, self-indulgent, selfish people who no longer recognize that we’re sharing our neighborhoods, our offices, our streets, our movie theaters, our world with other people. We walk around in insulating bubbles of selfdom. We are raising a generation of kids who are bereft of the values we were raised with just a generation or two ago, kids who think temper tantrums are the way to get what their want because their parents indulge such behavior. And I am completely with Goldthwait here: our culture has become lost, untethered, and completely messed up.

I actually think it sounds like a great movie!

If you looking to test the waters of this type of shooting, a fellow forum member has a nice Savage he was considering cutting loose with if your interested.......

Well....personally I cant say Im terribly interested in shooting either indoors or exclusively at short ranges so I would travel and shoot out doors. As to the question of 5.56 vs 308, well, deciding the role you want to fullfill with the rifle and ammo budget considerations will help you decide on that topic. Cage it was 22 degrees which still sucked! Yeah I clearly dont care if Im color coordinated LOL

Well when a company made a stock that looked like an Accuracy International stock, AI sued and won. Wish I could remember the name but it wasnt terribly close IMO. Now this companies rifle looks like a total knock off of the AI AX!!!