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When I bought my Savage Mark II .22LR rifle, I got a model called the "GXP" from Dick's Sporting Goods, basically the "G" means Wooden Stock {Savage Arms has a ton of Letter Codes for their stuff} and the XP means like "Combo Package" ie including scope. It was a Bushnell 3-9x40 , there are a few models Bushnell makes under $100 .. now i have to say it was a great little scope for the price. I was shooting mostly indoors at 25 yds so to be honest I would have just kept that scope if a buddy didn't knock it over and break it a little... so I upgraded to a ProStaff. But if you do a quick search on Optics Planet, Amazon, etc you will find a bunch of 3-9x40mm and similar Bushnell's that were very impressive for the price, I really thought it was nice and bet you would too (especially for less than $100 which you want or have to be at right?)

The top one is a Saiga 12... conventional type, since we're in New Jersey. Just got a SGM Tactical quad rail for it (which is a stretch really, I ordered a quad rail, what I got was a plastic forend w/ tri rails molded on and then a top cover with rails on it as well) , a Magpul RVG fore grip, and a SGM Saber Boss muzzle device. (And 17 magazines, Not shown )

New stuff for my babies new Fiber Optic rear ghost ring aperture for the LPA Ghost Ring Sights... as seen it really glows bright with a little bit of light, you can even see the red fiber optic lit up front. Remington 870 Tactical w/ the Magpul treatment, Aimpoint Micro, and nice Vickers Blue Force sling...really awesome total package.

Probably the most fun transaction deal I've had on here. I actually was damned drowsy when I said I would buy the ammo. When I woke up I said, Oh ... oops. Then I saw everyone else want it if I went back on my word so I know I made a good decision. Anyway bry@n was not only extremely accommodating he was as nice as could be and easy to get along with, I mean I felt like I was talking to a favorite Uncle and perfectly happy with my purchase/deal. If anyone has the questions about something I would suggest you ask him or certainly go right ahead and make a deal with him, there is not a split second of doubt or any speck of problem you could find in my humble opinion. Thanks man I am happy and hope to maybe deal in the future.

I was gonna say Man thats sweet but it's a 10K purchase these days... What with several thousand for the rifle, lets say $3000? I dont know really. $1000 in totally accessoriziing etc, another $1000 for ammo MINIMUM these days, you might make that $2000 for present costs, and at least $1500? for an ACOG etc Could be even more depending on model etc. desires , back up sights, etc. BEAUTIFUL RIFLE, But man oh man a rich mans rifle these days lol.

I also want some.. I bought 4 brand new of the 10rd / 25rd magazines (the kinds that hold 10 built on the regular mag) in late october/early november. They were not cheap, close to $20 I think... I had tried to order some short 10's but they disapperared from the net as I was online ordering, like someone was oput there buying them all up concurrently. Now I still don't have any but I see they will probably be expensive and scare, if the events unfold even more unfavorably they could be very desirable.

who's on first?

lol I think I accidentially reported this post or someones reply, if anyone gets it trouble it was an accident lol Please go into detail mag I am not familiar with manners or snipers hide to be frank, I know thre site but don't patronize and am not really familiar with manners. Thanks brother.

Hey there man , first off lemme say you are most absolutely welcome. And second thank you in return for such a compliment, it makes me extremely satisfied to have helped. There is a few people on here who get extremely upset and bothered when I post information or stories/reviews/etc. I kind of have the opinion, why not just bypass my posts and not pay attention, Because i Certainly do not pay attention to a word they say and just skim over any post I see their name attached, but it still makes some of them bothered . What are you gonna do. Anyway I am lucky ,all my firearms that I have bought I am extremely lucky to say I love and am very happy with, so I like to share my luck and of course enthusiasm by telling people what is good / what is a good value / what is a good operating weapon etc. This one is like a home run grand slam for the whole family. Thanks again and lets keep the updates as you proceed.

Mark and Alec had basically the whole shebang for you. The Saiga 12 and basically the Saiga sporter rifles , are AK's in disguise, they are sporterized (sporter = arms used for sport, like hunting or gaming) with a general hunting type stock and forearm etc. rather than the evil pistol grip (and with a pistol grip comes the standard shoulder stock to go with it). "Converting" it is for obtaining a pistol grip. In the process of making it into a pistol grip you also need to adjust the Fire Control Group to move forward to make room etc. Also , with the rifles, "Converting" adds the necessary mechanism and space to use standard, double stacked ,hi capacity usually, AK-47 magazines rather than the factory and proprietary magazines that the Saiga factory uses (and are small capacity and very expensive). This is not really a step in the Saiga 12, they all can hold the mags of the world from 2 rounds to what d othey come, at least 25 round drums, if not more? Its just a legal issue. (THERE IS A Magazine conversion for Saiga 12s to be fully informative. There is a "magwell" conversion which is an installation that accepts SPECIFIC magwell magazines that you can slam right up in there (aka INSERT vertically right to the gun in the magwell) rather than the standard AK way that all Saigas use, rocking the mag in from the front tip into the back to lock into place. I guess if I had a completely customized absolutely beautiful and awesome Pistol gripped Saiga 12 with a fancy AR stock and pistol grip and forward quad rail with Aimpoint Micro optic or EOTech etc. I might want that but, really, its meh to me. I have bought 17 Saiga 12 mags in te time we got the S12 in October. I am pretty confident I am well armed and well equipped. Ok hiope my additions to my esteemed colleagues posting and information helped.

Streamlight TLR-1hp or do what I'm about to do, buy a Beam-Lokr magnetic universal mount (amazing little device) and a Weitta flashlight, I got this little baby on a tip from here, Weitta Sparker F8455 , 300 lumens on high, adjustable from single bright spot to wide wide sweeping circle, hi-lo-strobe, rechargable Li-Ion battery included PLUS triple a battery adapter.... and it was $20 bucks. This amazing hand held pocket torch combined with a Beam Lokr , lets you put it in and use your shotgun and flashlight as a tactical torch anytime anyway, when you want just pop the flashlight out and use it handheld . amazing versatility.

I'm pretty familiar with this being the first/having my M930SPX the longest around here... I also had to rush to make it compliant when I got it and found out it wasn't exactly so legal. I called Choate Machine & Tool , down south in Ar-kansas Ithink... And explained my situation. The lovely lady on the phone went out into the shop, told one of the guys to machine me a +1 930 extension , then told me, Okay they'll blue it later, it'll need to 'cure' for a day, and we'll send it right out. How's like {insert perfectly fair price I'm forgetting but was very happy with}, how is that/? I was like SURE! And they send a hi-quality hi-visibility Choate orange follower and better magazine spring, which having installed all that stuff, and now its 3 years plus, I've not had a single malfunction or problem. I am extremely happy with Choate, you should give them a call if you need their services. Having said all that, there is also the Nordic, which is more of a stylish part that is not for me but might be if you are building your 930 "a certain way"... I WOULD put a Nordic +2 on a Benelli Supernova absolutely, it fits that shotgun perfectly IMHO.

This is my S&W M&P 15-22.... I spent * a lot* on it and *a lot * of time and effort.. money and TLC. I show you this because while it is not pink per se, it is extremely customizable and it is also of course an amazing little weapon and absolutely suited for a wife or young lady daughter. Extremely easy to shoot/fun and easy to learn, light weight ( you almost HAVE to customize it because it's so light it needs some ballast lol!) very very good for training because its fun and accurate and easy to shoot- literally no recoil, not terribly loud, looks like a "machinegun/M16" for a kid or wife to enjoy, and with it shooting .22LR you can get GOOD ammo for .03 cents a round, damned good ammo for .07 cents around [well you *COULD* anyway. now its more like .25 / quarter to fitty cent lol]. And you can customize them infinitely ... made to look like a Government Issue black M4 Carbine, a SOPMOD , a pink panther, a hunting rifle w/ Realtree Hardwoods/mossy oak, or like me, a personalized Picasso of tactical toughness and home defense style n' profile. OH YEAH And its also very reasonable priced for what you get.

You know I had given it a passing glance, I have generally checked out the "chassis systems" stocks and I do indeed like them. Now I will tell you, in first week of November , MidwayUSA had the standard AICS for Short Action Remington 700s (standard, non folding which is what I like to be honest, with one 5 round mag I believe) was $700 exactly. Now into January it went up to $886 and two of the three colors were out of stock/backordered. I do really like the AICS but it is a big investment. And I am the type of guy who would buy the non folding and immediately not want it cause there is the "better" folding one for substantially more... And you know you'd figure, at least $886+ probably $300 more for a few magazines. Its a big investment IMHO. I am looking over that McRees right now it looks pretty good, I will give it further looks. The truth is I really do like the 'retro' half-way-MilScrapSpec of having a McMillan sort of M40-ish or H-S Precision sort of M24-ish build. I really do like that. BUT, that would overall be extremely expensive. Figure $550 for the McMillan HTG or more like $600 for the A-4, plus $100 for the cheek piece, and like $300 for detachable mag system. So that would be a big investment. I don't know it's hard, buy once cry once I totally know, but also, $1000-$1300 for this wipes out my money for any future firearms stuff in the next 6mo-1 year probably. I guess when I bought the R700 I thought I would be totally all about the sniper rifle idea but now with the past two months of craziness I sort of had second thoughts, like maybe an AR/AK/M1A would have been smarter and get a bolt action down the road... BUT, I know once I do a really great stock and feel like I have a fairly top shelf civilian regular-joe-rifle I will be more comfortable. Thanks so far I will go look at the McRees more.

OK guys , couple questions. A few of us had some discussions of Remington 700... Now I am having a few questions of my own. First off... Does any have or in the least, have experience with the Hogue OverMolded Full-bedding-block version? My Remington 700 'SPS Tac' AAC-SD came with a nice looking nice feeling but apparently poor-performing Hogue Overmolded Ghillie Green stock. Looks good feels good BUT- its major flaw is a lack of actual barrel free floating and it gets very pronounced and poor performance when say resting the forend of the rifle on stuff (Field expedient rest would be a big necessity but a problem) and apparently, and I have read this a TON, when using a bipod this stock sucks. Totally makes contact, barrel to stock, flexes during firing, and ruins accuracy. This is a constant, and documented problem but I intend to use a bipod regularly. I have a $130 bipod on there now, I'm gonna use it, so..its a big factor. So I would be interested in the Hogue Full Bedding block, supposedly fixes that problem and is overall better and improves accuracy. But specifically for the bipod use I'd get it. It's Extreemly reasonable for a new stock. The stocks i like are abour $500 on average (for the bottom level stocks I want, the nice nice ones obviously much more expensive.). Hogue lists this for $300 but I have found significantly cheaper and I could pick up a diff color, so you can immediately tell i'm not standard Rem 700 even thr AAC-SD> OK SECOND0 -if I were instead to pick up a nice , costly stock like a McMillan or HS Precision, as I have learned it needs to be bedded, where could I get that done, who does that? I haven't got a gunsmith anymore so I'm not sure who I could or would ask about it. I wouldn't know about any gunsmith work anymore to be honest, the guy at Sportsmans is a lunatic and I really like the very nice older gentleman at CMO but won't patronize that place anymore... .SO If I buy a conventional high(er) end stock ,who adn where could I go to get it taken care of ? (And how much this service takes/costs?) OK Thanks much.. I really want to upgade the stock but can't seem to get what I want when I want it, so I am lookinh to expand my search.. thanks much brothers.

they were way less than this . when i got a nice chunk of change in Mid October I was determined not to blow it all on guns (Hmmm... how did that work out) so I did NOT buy an AR (Because I'd want like a $2000 AR, $500 in Magpul etc, $500-$2000 in Optic, $1000 in ammo, etc.) nor my dream rifle like an M1A (again , $2000, $1000 in ammo, $1000 optic, $300 say for mags etc) and instead wound up making smaller purchases and nickel and dimed myself lol. (I think I did better off all together, to be honest, but that is another story for another topic). One thing i had been debating was , new AK type in 7.62x39mm or .308 bolt action tactical rifle. I have an AK in the family and a decent amount of ammo but no larger caliber at all and no long range/precise at all, so went with a R700 over an AK. (In retrospect I might have gone for the AK simply becaus they are so scare and in danger of being banned but whatever)... So after getting the R700 I was looking, hmm, what else can I get in .308, a Sig 716 in FDE (And I mean, the whole rifle is in Flat Dark Earth, pained receiver etc. PLUS all FDE Magpul accessories and FDE quad rail, really nice) was basically a little bit more than a Remington R-25, and while I PERSONALLY am a Remington guy and would love a R-25 just fine, others would no doubt rag on it and say a Sig is much better etc. i did not get the Sig but should have, now it like everything else is beyond all comprehension pricewise. It is just madness, and the thing is when people keep raising and pricing their , I dare not say JUNK but shall use BASIC, their BASIC rifles etc. for Saddam's Golden AK-like prices, AND PEOPLE BUY THEM STRAIGHT AWAY, its not gonna get better. Am I saying you shouldn't go to Walmart and buy ammo because its not good to hoard or cause price rises, no , you gotta take care of yourself I know. But people paying $2000 for Saiga rifles, and I mean, rubber stocked rubber forend'd 7.62x39mm Saiga sporter rifles, $2000 , how can you defend that? Feeding the trolls under the bridge makes them come back every day for food and get more brazen and then demand food and do bad things when you don't get them their food; however, if you DON'T feed them they will die or go away or go elsewehre for food.

lol. that's nothing like. Those are just the Remingtons .

The sky is going to fall, didn't you guys see, at the Trenton buyback THEY GOT A ROCKET LAUNCHER!!!! (At one point identified by one of the foolish enforcement types, a prosecutor rep claiming to be a "Detective" or something" an Anti-tank rocket launcher weapon like those used in Iraq). Thankfully albeit too ltitle, too late, too logically, it was identified as, you know, a single use thing, like , you know, a relic- a wall hanger display. You can buy them from Cheaper than Dirt etc to put in your Man Room etc. etc. Except we paid him cash money for his old one. Top Dollar ,too, cause its considered an illegal assault weapon lol.

Yeah I didn't want to get involved but, While I understand you were most likely not trying to do anything wrong/illegal / straw piurchase, I think your whole mindset here is wrong. I really can't think of anyone in the first place who wants to get involved with the buy and selling the order you made but i'm buyinf rom him not you but kind of you but he doesn't want to but I want to but you dont really want to... Just a messed up situation all around. I mean sometimes you just gotta either break even walk away and go somewhere else or fold a small loss to prevent a big bigger bigges loss. The WORST thing you really want to do is ACTUALLY wind up busted or having to deal wit hthe powers that be. For you wanting a $350 bolt action ruger rifle you gotta be able to just go somewhere else and make it easier all around.

Wow you must be rich as sugar to be abl to go to Utah to try out a hi-cap Saiga magazine1 That must be the bomb diggity. Can I borrow some money???? I bought my pop a S12 and did my best outfitting it but I still need an Aimpoint or EOTech (maybe even a Mepro M21 or a Trijicon Reflex) ... So since you're rich could you hook me up please? kthxbai brother! LEt me know when to expect that paypal.

I have a new Saiga 12 and I have a case of this stuff I bought to split between my the new Saiga 12 (I gave it to the old man for Christmas, let him use the magazine fed one he absolutely loves it lol), my new 870 TacMag, and my standy-hotness M930SPX, I haven't tried it out yet but, it looks like its pretty standard, hi quality, full power, 9-pellet, dark green hulled 00 Buck. I can't say it'd be for practice (other than confirming cycle and spread) because it's , waht, it was $4.99 a box of 5 when I bought a lot of it, now it's appearing online and in stores for $5.99 minimum... but I'd load up our mags and keep it for HD. (Having 17 Saiga-12 magazines requires alot of good ammo for HD )

where can I find one , NJ legal model, on the cheap or best price> Thanks Also if anyone sees the 7.62x39mm model I would be interested.

RobertJames I agree that the quality control with Remington suffered- it was a whole from FreedomGroup. I talked to a longtime Bushmaster builder aka "gunsmith" who worked for Bushmaster in New England when they were BUSHMASTER the AR-15 experts, and then as a 'builder' aka assembler for them when FreedomGroup took over. I could type a million stories but what it came down to was, they switched from comprehensive quality control testing to "BATCH TESTING" which meant, they would select a random dude, test one of his rifles, and say okay the batch of 10, 20, 50, 100 he just built are all good. NOW ASIDE FROM THE FACT they all could have random, unrelated mistakes here and there, what was happening was they found HUGE AMOUNTS of rifles with all the same errors, like the one guy was not installing a particular part, the night shift guy was forgetting to parkerize a particular part or applying an entire finish on stuff, or the one kid who was having girl troubles and turned to booze and drugs was just literally not doing a large amount of the required assembly work, resulting in HUGE AMOUNTS of "Bad Bushmasters" being out there. I would imagine Remington went to the same 'Batch testing' quality control standards not to mention extreme cost cutting on parts, material, installation, etc to save money, resulting in problems. Guys like me that always loved Remington, I am still happy to have their stuff and love my new Remington trifecta of the 700, 870, and 597. But other people just give up.

Very well put sir I wanted to post my thanks/agreement. I will fully admit that I had some problems with mine out of the box. I knew I was buying what I liked/wanted rather than what the salesperson (kid) and a lot of forum members (I didn't use this forum for the first long time when I joined the internet firearms community, I used an extremely popular other site) were telling me- 10/22 all day long. I did not want what everyone had. I was buying my first ever long gun, no experience with .22 really, etc, and I had some problems with extraction issues. I also was using Remington Golden Bullet ammo, SUCKED. Then he told me to switch to Thunderbolts, equally sucky but more expensive. So the rifle had disappointed me. 2 weeks later I bought a very beautiful, extremely-fun-to-use-bolt-action, and extremely SO REDONKULOUSLY Cheap brand new Savage Mark II, I didn't need the Remington . 3 weeks after that, I bought a 15-22, and the 597 sat in the closet. I decided to do something about it after my spinal surgery in late 2010 had a little bit of money and a lot of time- so I needed to replace the extractor, I did the hammer because, well why not? I also agree with what someone posted, the "combo scope" was really just fine for an indoor 25 yd. range but I went big with a Nikon ProStaff 4-12x40mm, and I could not be happier. Now my 597 really is an amazing rifle, I am happy... added a not-expensive Winchester Walmart bipod, had the gunsmith give me some studs and swivels and a simple 'silent sling' etc. SOMEDAY I might add a Volquartsen $200-$500 barrel... someday,. That would require major committment (and of course gunsmith installation.. probably would need a new stock) but hey... Go Big or Go Home!!

Sig Sauer just unveiled a new hotness at Shot SHOW that is amazing. It's called Sig MPX, and there are 5 versions, 4 of which are LE/MIL and 1 is going to b commercial civilian. It is being called a Submachine gun, its like a Sig MP5 but built around the AR style. the carbine version is not for everyone , because it has like 6.5" bbl (surrounded by a new age carbon fiber handguard, the design that looks like you can bolt pic rails on to if you want to make it a quad rail and/or attach accessories a piece at a time) with this crazy looking 9.5" open muzzle brake. IT TURNS OUT, the metal railing of the muzzle brake is the BAFFLES OF AN INTEGRAL SUPPRESSOR , but its going to be legal, AND IF you live in a free state, you apply for your NFA stamp etc. then get a simple simple metal tube sleeve, drop it over the 'baffles' of this muzzle brake, put a cap on the end, and its the integral suppressor MPX! *and* it is a 9mm with supposedly on the fly user-adjustable quick-changes, to .40 cal and .357 SIG. AND it has a MP5A3 style sliding small/thin submachine stock but apparently available with a folding stock. I am ALL ABOUT THIS, I would buy this at once, and I may be moving to a free state, in which case it would become my first NFA item. It really looks awesome for range fun and home defense.