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I put Nikon ProStaffs on my two .22LR sporter rifles, I am absolutely happy and ecstatic I bought them. I happen to have bought both 4-12x40mm's and while you probably don't need 4-12x40mm they were great deals for me, I figured why not right? At least I'll never have to upgrade. IMHO for a .22LR you can't get a better value for dollar than a ProStaff (if you want a magnified scope of course)... I also have had some cheap Bushnell that was very very good , very happy. The EOTEch rimfire does only mount to a dovetail mount and also remember its non magnified, its a holographic/red dot sight not a scope. if you want that , of course it is excellent and the best for that but, it's not magnified and requires a dovetail mount.

So So I actually wanted the Savage 10 PC .308 -- I went into CMO looking at whatever they had in a tactical rifle .308 bolt action genre.. They basically had a $1200+ Kimber and the R700 AAC-SD. When they said I could not buy it that day (it was a NICS holiday on Election Day or something like that) I said, well since I am not leaving with it today, I really wanted a Savage, can you check it up for me? They quoted me like nearly $150 more than the internet prices, so I told them, they called me a liar to my face. Called. Me. A. Liar. To. My. Face. I then asked the guy to borrow his iPad he was playing with, pulled up Buds Gun Shop, and showed them. I had said maybe $650 and it was in fact $662. So now I wasn't a liar. BUT OH NO, Sorry, They don't do business with Buds! Sorry! Anyone but them! I said, ok well fine, why dont you just give me the same price and order it for me? No sorry we can't do that. So they wuld not give me the right price, nor accept a transfer from the place that would, it was redonkulous, I wound up ust coming back the next day and buying the R700 and being done with it. However, I still really really like that Savage. Awesome little rifle, comes in .223 or .308 and also has the AccuStock, the Savage AccuStock is an awesome factory production stock, really really nice for what you pay for it, plus Savage is awesome anyway, my Savage .22LR is like shooting an Olympic competition rifle, waaaaaay too accurate for the price it cost. so if you buy this I am sure you will be happy. I am very happy with the R700 AAC-SD I got but I would be also happy wit hthe Savage PC.

You did pretty good buddy, it looks both fearsome and classy at the same time. Lemme know how you like that TLR-1 on there, I actually have been close to buying the TLR-1hp a few times (HP for High Powered, a specific long-gun version of the TLR-1 with extremely bright light and long distance range). ... I just never did. I have a bunch of Streamlight flashlights and they are absolutely *AWESOME* so I can only imagine their weapon lights are equally awesome. Good job good on ya bro.

555 just wanted to say thank you very much for a great compliment. Without trying to sound terrible it makes you very happy when someone compliments your gun thank you. almiz It was my understanding that I would need a whole new trigger and fire control group setup to use external magazines, its not just a matter of buying the mags and the bottom metal... is that not right?

Please Hold for the M1 Carbine Tribute Police .....

Nice gun, I liked this once when I saw it - while I wound not pay any EXTRA for it to say Thunder Ranch I would not *not* rock it because of that either. (Same deal with the Blackwater series, I'm not paying extra for Blackwater logo on a Mossberg but would not hesitate to shoot one if you gave it to me.) As far as the pink shells, I'm down with the cause no problem. I am still swoll as hell I got bamboozled on like 3 or 4 100rd pk's of supposedly the pink shells for Breast Cancer etc.. and when I got home they were plain jane Federal target bulk packs, maroon colored .... And I got bamboozled. And of course when I tried to go back and 'discuss the situation' the person had never seen me before had no idea what I was talking about and not understanding why I was upset or loud. So now I say forget the pink shells.

*** LMFAO *** I nearly ruined my new laptop with spitting coffee.... The funny thing is I remember a while back showing my father, "Hey look at this new Savage, specific for Hog Hunting!!" And he's like, "In addition to everything else you're worried about and preparing for, now you're worried about the wild hogs attacking here in scenic central Jersey" And I think my exact words were ., "Give it time!" And it seems like a great little rifle *if* you have a main rifle in the caliber, I would love this as a backup/additional rifle but would not make it my dedicated .308 scoped bolt action rifle for example. Now that I have a R700 .308 AAC-SD (which is heavy to begin with and I've just made it tank like) I would totally rock this as a secondary .308 short style backup/carrying rifle. But not as a replacement / main rifle.

THAT my friend is very very nice- a classic classic firearm. I'd like a few more myself.... can never EVER have too many .22LR's..

I really want one of these bad. IF we did not have those stupid Permit to Purchase a Pistol requirement thingies, I would just go and buy one on the spot.

Yes please and thank you to which brands do you refer???? And what do you think is the best? What should i do?? Thank you thank you

Let us put it this way, to which feature are you referring that you are unsure the legality?

I have owned both and currently own several others. You will do no wrong with either. I will tell you the Benelli Supernova's action is absolutely silky smooth , mine was the nicest pump action I've ever worked ... Amazing really. IT is 3 1/2" chamber so you can basically use any shell marked 12 gauge come hellfire rioting or high water... The polymer armor is absolutely amazing for protection and done perfectly RIGHT, NOT like the obscenity that is the Remington 887 Nitro Mag... and the Supernova can be modified with the modular stocks (The conventional stock, the recoil reducing high technology 'ComfortTech' with mercury recoil reduction and smoothing/sliding chevrons for cheekweld/slippage, and the SteadyGrip pistol-grip-stock. ) Barrels too, I will admit, Benelli barrels and stocks are generally more expensive than a new gun, so don't think you'll just pick up a 24" bbl and Pistol Grip stock and you'll have a turkey gun setup to go with your security setup. But in all, the Benelli Supernova Tactical is one of the sexay'est shotguns and I've had a bunch and am still out there considering some for buying just for fun. Having said all that, the Remington 870 is the Great American Shotgun. Furthermore, one of it's most notable 'features' is that in all the models, there is ONE Remington 870, they differ in finish and furniture. Literally, the difference between the cheap and more and most expensive models are furniture added (forend/stock/sights) and finish ( cheapest quality 'powder-coat bluing' which my new and your potential Express Tactical comes with) to the nice richly shined deep bluing on the Wingmasters to the parkerization on the Police models. For $30 dollars you can put the 4 870P parts in your gun and you can always have your gun parkerized, I am in the process of having mine done soon. It is the most sought after, sold, and highly regarded shotgun and you can ALWAYS find a spare barrel for your needs in the future. *You will not make a bad decision here* , I have had both, have one now, have 3 extra guns in the portfolio at the moment, will add a Supernova Tactical as soon as I find one on a shelf somewhere when I'm out and the spirit moves me. and just got done a $500+ accessorizing of my new 870 Tactical. You will be fine to buy whichever one shoulders better brother.

There is a super half-ace'd middle of the night snapshot of the progress this baby is seeing. As you can see i have finally mounted and bore-sighted the Bad Mother Trucker in, Nikon Monarch 5-20x44mm Side Focus , Bullet Drop Compensating reticle scope. Also added the Harris Ultralight BRMS bipod, Viking Tactical padded extra-wide sling, and finally got some ammo to feed it... about 5 boxes of Hornady 'Zombie' aka TAP FPD, 168gr Z-Max .. a box of 150 gr FMJ American Eagle.. 4 boxes of sale priced @ Dick's 180gr Remington Core Lokt soft points, some winchester random expensive 180 grainer's and also and Federal Power Shok 180 gr. Soft Pointers..somewhere between 240 and 300 rds so far.. and the rifle is coming great.. If I can do the stock I'd feel "complete" if not I will go to war with the Hogue OverMolded it came with and call it a day... Anyway my last upgrade/purchase will probably be a muzzle device, I am leaning with something by AAC because it is afterall an AAC-SD package rifle, Advanced Armament Corp makes a combination muzzle brake / flash hider that would probably fit my uses and likes perfect, fit right in. Ok hope you guys like it.

Does Federal do this for 7.62x51 NATO / .308Win? or this sort of thing I mean

Extremely good to know. I bought mine at CMO but I'm pretty positive it was totally Brand New In Box and was unsealed on top of the counter in front of me.. Good to know.

Man I'm sorry to upset you I was just trying to figure out what the deal was, Sorry to have questioned you, I did not mean to make you angry.

I just bought a brand new Saiga 12 and have yet to take it out bec. its a Christmas surprise for my Dad... I am very worried about it after I read the reports on the saiga forum..."Vodka Specials" basically beng built by unskilled or unsober workers which either need a LOOOOT of working on/ breaking in to function, or ones which just WILL NOT fix/will not break in. Or worse ,ones that will break in but they will not shoot value / Bulk Packs / bird shiot /target-game loads etc. Or even buck shot, only will sell fully powered high status Slugs... I know that it's not designed to be a skeet shooting toy gun and shoot only bulk packs but you want it to shoot cheap stuff sometimesa and hope it complies but you just don['t know... I know my plan is as follows- After it gets "opened" on Christmas, its going to be Cleaned throughly and completely and thoroughly some more/ --- Taken to the range and absolutely shot with several (as as $$$ permits) boxes of 00 Buck ... then at least 1 or 2 100rd 7 1/2 Federal Bulk Pack/Value load boxes... then taken home, Completely cleaned thoroughly again... And taken back to the range, more repetions of 00 Buck (at least a few 15 round boxes) and then 1 or 2 100'rd Federal value pack bulk buy ... then taken home , cleaned up and oiled up and hopefully is ready for action somewhat.

Hey I again am not looking to fight or argue, but I am confused because you guys are telling me one thing that was told opposite to me, I had checked out a while back and was told McMillan would send my stock all ready to go (OF COURSE *I COULD* have the rifle bedded but it was not at all necessary- FAQ ? # 14 :. Do I need to bed the receiver? We have found that in most cases our drop-in and custom fitted stocks provide better than adequate accuracy unbedded. However, the final determination is left up to the individual shooter. Bedding services are available from your local gunsmith. We no longer offer bedding services. past that down to question # 17 it addresses cost: For hunting and sporting stocks there is a standard price for a completely finished "Drop-in Stock" which includes a Pachmayr Decelerator Recoil pad, Uncle Mikes sling swivel studs, and the finish of your choice Are we differing because I am looking at the Hunting stock choice and you are talking about the Tactical Stock choices ? Again I was most likely going with the old M40A1 styled stock camo, adjustable cheek'd stock General Purpose Hunting ... When you look in the Tactical Stock listings it is listed as M40A-1 HTG (General Purpose Hunting) ... But under Hunting Stocks it is just (Adjustable) HTG - General Purpose Hunting .. The pictures look exactly the same... so I am thinking it is ready to go, no? I am emailing them because I agree, IF it's $525 plus $250 worth of Gunsmith services just to mount it for use then I agree, the AICS would be a smarter deal @ 700 drop in brand new.

As a range toy and a home defense/ SHTF/ CQB fun gun , Ithink the 9mm would be an instant purchase for me... Especially as an upgrader/customizer .. the 15-22 for example became such a huge hit because in no small part, its an upgrader and anyone can do anything to it, and there are so many ways to customize/increase variety etc. If you could do the same thing with a 9mm real-deal-Russian AK, I'd think it could be the next 15-22. For me, I think I spent like $1000 accessorizing a $450-500 gun because my 15-22 is my 'fun gun' ... not really a home defense weapon as it shoots .22LR but its a ton of fun at the range, gets me compliments and questions/etc. and could be a real SHTF Tool . a 9mm AK from Saiga's manufactures would be a hit... but- will it look like a Saiga rifle or will it look like an AK-103/104 etc. the 107... well, I missed going to the 5.45 platform in 2010 and went with 7.62x39mm. If I had realized that at the time 5.45 ammo surplus cans were selling in 1260 round lots for .09 cents a round I would have went that way.. but I bought a PAP for my old man's bday, liked it, we wound up going 7.62x39mm as our Survival/SHTF caliber etc. and now I am in the market (having generally finished my 870 and 700 builds) for a 7.62x39mm AK, not really the 5.45. IS this Ak-107 only in the 5.45 caliber? If so it's a nonstarter for me,., but a 7.62x39mm I'd be interested in big time. To me, the closest to Russia you get is Krebs but i had to stop and think, do I really want to fork over $1300+ for an AK-103K despite my love for its looks? I stopped myself from completing the order, and decided to go with a .308 bolt action tactical rifle... Still needing the AK, but still wondering, what price is "too much?".

LOL Buddy I would imagine they just keep changing it to generate more sales.

don't worry, some of us feel the same way. And as i stated, I literally learned how to field strip and disassemble/reassemble a Glock blindfolded before I was double digited aged old. Glock is what I literally grew up wit. It's not the prettiest to all but it's the perfect'est to me and many others.

BullzeyeNJ thank you very much for a great compliment!!!! mag1 I have to say if your budget is $500 you opened up IMHO a whole can of possibilites, HS Precision again is a fine stock, but is IMHO and ONLY MY HUMBLE OPINION the bottom of the high quality tiered stocks, but $500 only allows you much more possibilites IMHO. (Both in brand name, style, and even toper-tiered HS P's ) And sir while I certainly believe you and know your experience, http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-622/McMillan-M40A1-HTG-fdsh-TEX-Tactical/Detail For example they told me I would be good to go, as I am following the product to the right thing, I have a heavy barreled Remington 700 with a short action, with the hinged floor plate, and it should be fairly drop in fine. also on the McMillan website, http://www.mcmillanusa.com/mcmillan-stocks-hunting-stock-list.php?subnav=branch2g Of which I like many many of their stocks but focusing on the one i already specified, ... on their website fAQ, do I need to bed, they say "We have found that in most cases our drop-in and custom fitted stocks provide better than adequate accuracy unbedded. However, the final determination is left up to the individual shooter" -- in then says for regular rifles they use in house actions to fit it so unless its a custom job it should be fit to your action but if you doubt it or want perfection consult your local gunsmith OR Send your action to them for the ultimate fitting job (MHO I dont need that level of perfection). If I am looking at this wrong *PLEASE* do nto take me as arguign I would certainly like to know now rather than after I bought it to find I needed it to be gunsmithed just to work. And also the AICS clearly said it was drop in fit, is that wrong too?

I have spoken to a gunsmith / assembler for Bushmaster back when Bushmaster *was Bushmaster* and they were a smaller but popular top quality producer in the Northeast? or wherever. ANYWAY he worked for them for a while , explained to me their positions on several different "options" and "configurations" etc. and why they did what they did / how they did / chose to work certain ways with certain parts/setups etc. And he was there when they got bought, when it transformed, etc. did some work and wound up leaving. He brought up a few interested points and I really took a lot out of this , he said, Bushmaster used to inspect each rifle, and they had their quality control focused on each aspect of each rifle. As part of the Freedom Group's you know, Business Plan or whatever, they started BATCH Testing rather than RIFLE testing. So while you would assume one rifle bad meant a batch got thrown out, it was quite the opposite. If they tested say The Finish of Drunken Assemblyman #1 over here, and his finish looked fine, they Approved! the batch of 20 rifles he had in front of him. They did not test the finish or the other stuff of the other 19 rifles... they had already Approved! that batch. This led to LARGE amounts of bad substandard rifles. And therefore led to large amounts of complaints and calls for Bushmaster's head / they're sudden downgrading from top tier AR company to below substandard and internet fodder for jokes. What really had happened was some disgruntled workers started letting their problems get the better of their work and some young / in experienced and unqualified /untalented workers made bad rifles and bad decisions. They had actually traced problems one time back to a particular worker working a particular shift who was failing to complete an entire step in the finishing process, leading LARGE entire batchs and huge amounts of rifles without a finish (Like without a coat of bluing or without a parkerized this that or the other, something like that.) They found one guy who was really upset that the new Freedom Group guys did not raise him or promote him /pay him more /bonus him etc. he was purposely leaving screws out or something untightened that needed to be tightened etc Stuff like this was happening ata large rate but the Batch Testing was making these errors not realized or not even seen for a LONG LONG TIME.. but by the time they got around to noticing the Bushmaster name had been ruined on the Internet and the brand has suffered arguably irrepairable damage and will most likely never recover. The Bushmaster ACR could probably had saved them and their name (in MY opinion that is ) but the fiasco that was the ACR just cemented them as downright down the drain IMHO. I love them and loved my Bushmaster but I can't defend them on the net anymore, its an unwinnable battle.

I heard there are billions and billions of Pakistani 7.62x25 sitting around surplusly rusting in places just waiiting to be sold on the surplus market.