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Right now through midnight tomorrow, Dick's Sporting Goods is offering $20 off a purchase of $100 and free shipping, (online only). Not quite the cyber monday 25% off one item but still, a decent deal if you need to order something.

I have bought my Dad a Saiga 12 for Christmas and when I just noticed this, I was going to buy a M21 optic for it, I just tried and of course the code is no longer valid. D'oh!

PK90 has nailed it, it is a violation of 2C .. .in which the subsection SPECIFICALLY says (Title 13, chapter 54, you can pull it up on the state police website). "a semi-automatic shotgun with either a magazine capacity exceeding six rounds, a folding stock, or a pistol grip". I cannot see how this guy can keep making the argument "BUT THEY SAID SO"....

mAN i got to this topic late... I wanted to chime in because, in my search for a scope for my new Rem 700 .308, I also was considering a Leupold VX3, a Zeiss, and ultimately a Nikon Monarch. I was looking at the highest end VX3's and VX3L's and was about to buy a 4.5-14x50mm Illuminated Reticle Boone and Crockett ... and would have bought it from CMO but they were so rude to me on repeated occasions I just could not give them another dime. I came close to buying a Zeiss on several occassions, the thing is it was as much if not more for the comparable Leupold but without an Illuminated Reticle, I also was going for a Rapid Z 6/8/1000 reticle depending. I really liked the quality of the Zeiss and the idea of the 200 yd Zero and all the compensating / range finding stadia on the reticle. I ultimately went with the Monarch 5-20x44mm BDC SF because I am already very comfortable and happy with two Nikon's I have, the quality of the Monarch is AT LEAST as good as the other two if not greater, and it is about half priced. The one you mentioned, the 3-9x40 UCC is their newest release, which is a historical piece of their original Monarch ... the 3-9x40mm Monarch UCC might be the best scope of the price on the market today, you could not beat it with a bigass stick for 200 bucks. Anyway a Zeiss is absolutely beautiful and super high end, you should be extremely pleased! I got the Monarch from Dick's Sporting Goods on Monday, for 25% off and free shipping, AND I HAD BEEN ABOUT TO BUY IT FROM THEM SUNDAY NIGHT, and dog distracted me, and then I had a 25% off coupon email Monday morning, talk about luck! I could not pass up a Nikon Monarch 5-20x44mm BDC SF scope for $397 !!!!!!

i THINK it was $397 plus like 27 nj sales tax, because there is a Dick's in NJ they have to charge sales tax, so it came to like 424 I think.

When_Shtf you gotta do a little more research, while there is in fact a 3-9 P223, the scope I showed was actually a 3X fixed scope with a 32mm aperature. With a BDC reticle actually. Now I don't know about the M-308 not having eye relief, I just got my Monarch 5-20x44mm today and while I agree the picture changes as you increase the magnification , it has like 4 " eye relief and its all good for me.

Now please recorrect me if I am wrong but I was told that this was absolutely illegal- a dealer in NJ can't accept it if it's not NJ legal from the get go. I tried to have this done a few times early in 2010 and was schooled several times. Now I am not saying this doesn't happen, because I have received PMs on this very forum and on The Firing Line etc. from people telling me how wrong I am about NJ gun laws, "My guy just orders it then fixes it for me before I pick it up, if you weren't such a dumb$**# square law-toter I would let you in on it "(direct quote from someone on The Firing Line once). BUT I think it's illegal, I could be wrong. That is basically why NJ people can't set up an Internet firearms website selling regular firearms to people outside NJ, ... because even if no one in NJ would be using /buying the illegal-here-firearms, if it's illegal when it shows up here its illegal. Please do not nuclear bomb me if I am wrong,

Tek: I absolutely LOVE THE SHOTGUN more than any other gun I have. It is irreplaceable to me and my firearms pride and joy. it has not malfunctioned EVER NOT EVEN ONCE, having had the magazine replaced, spring replaced, follower replaced, and my cleaning process usually if ever doesn't even entail removing the trigger assembly. STILL FLAWLESS. Just for clarification. The Mossberg 930 is a 4+1 gun . The SPX model comes standard with a Choate +3 Magazine extension making it a 7+1 firearm. The only SPX models they make , I believe it is 3 now, are basically all the same, except the first two differed in that one had a conventional stock (Like I have) the other had the Choate pistol-grip-stock. the newest SPX was the Blackwater version, which basically has a logo on it, I WOULDN'T WANT THAT anyway unless there was some sort of major discount involved. The other 930 Models are not SPX models they are Tactical or Home Security models. It is stupid nomenclature but it is naming nomenclature nonetheless. You would be Very Very Happy with a 930- but the 930SPX is not a competition model, it is a combat shotgun. I LOVE the LPA Ghost Ring Sights but they are not for competition IMHO they are for combat. You should indeed look at Mickulek pro series they just came out with, they would be PERFECT for you. I actually was going to buy my Dad a Mikulek Pro 930 for Christmas until I settled on the Saiga 12 I just bought at while being rudely harassed at CMO . (At least I know he will be happy come Christmas.)

Not to nitpick because I absolutely hate it when people nitpick on me... But the M930SPX is only an 8-Shot, the other models are the Tactical and/or Home Security models, Not the Special Purpose X-treme models (SPX). I am the first person to have the M930SPX in New Jersey. ... I was sold one "by accident" when I was brand new to buying firearms and apparently the store did not realize either. So I immediately had Choate make me a new magazine that replaced the +3 extension, changed it with the +1, and was okay. And it is the absolute best firearm I own and I would trust me life and my familys defense with it in case of emergency. Several people on the forum as I understand it have purchased M930's since I got mine and I am pretty sure most like them, occassionally I see a 930 appear on the sales forum. I know mine is not for sale at any price. In the Spring-ish/summer 2010 when I was telling someone at CMO about my M930 I was offered first $1000, then exactly double my paying price of $600ish to $1200 and i refused, It is not for sale. That's how awesome I think it is. The Aimpoint Micro I added to it and the LimbSaver recoil pad make it a whole 'nother level of badassness.

I used the Dick'S Sporting Goods cyber monday 25% off any one item Plus $20 in shipping credit to buy a Nikon Monarch 5-20x44mm BDC Scope for my new Remington 700 AAC-SD .308 .... And the best part was, I was online about to buy it from them Sunday night, got distracted by the dog, things happened, I did not complete the purchase. Wake up yesterday with that email in my mailbox, bought it straight away. So now my Remington 700 has a top of the line Nikon Monarch scope to go with it, and as I have already two Nikon ProStaffs that are extremely awesome, I can only imagine the quality and clarity of the Monarch.

Good for you bro I am glad someone also got to save and get something. As far as the turrets and adjustments, while I understand it may not be what you are looking for, I am sure it will be just fine for me, so I am thinking I will be happy. Time will tell of course. I had looked at a few expensive scopes, I am pretty sure I will be happy.

Nikon P-223 3x32mm BDC Reticle... http://www.nikonhunting.com/products/riflescopes/p-223/3x32_BDC_Carbine You can find this for like $149.99-ish, and it even included a mount when it first came out (not sure now). You *cannot* find better glass for the money than Nikon

It was my understanding 1:9 is optimized for 55 gr, 1:7 is optimized for 62gr. 1:7 can go from 62-77gr no problem.... 1:9 can go from 55 up to 62 but i know I didn't have as much success in 62gr as I did in 55 gr with a 1:9 14.5" HBAR (Didnt like that fact but noticed it a little). IMHO 1:12 is Specifically for Varmint weight bullets and that is not including 55gr. that is the 30s and 40s grain bullet weights. I am not saying it won't shoot 55gr. But if you are specifically looking to shoot 55-62gr you , IMHO *and only* IMHO, do not want a 1:12. And about the Precision Carbine... Now I would feel perfectly comfortable owning two of the same guns in different calibers... I wouldn't even mind an exact match pair. But if you want you could always expand your horizon with a 700 or even a different Savage rifle.

I have a basic Mark II "GXP" (Basic wood stock, combo package w/ scope) which i replaced the scope w/ a Nikon ProStaff 4-12x40mm BDC ... AMAZING RIFLE. At the $150 I paid for it , normally $200 on sale for $150, it is REDONKULOUSLY accurate and I have not have one single malfunction with it. It shoots any ammo I have put in it, but it appreciates quality and certainly loves the good stuff. This was a purchase because I loved the look, it looks like a Browning A-Bolt deer hunting rifle but its a Savage .22LR, and it SHOOTS like a Browning A-Bolt deer rifle as well. Probably my classiest and happiest to luck into purchase.

Absolutely bro... I am glad you got something and happy to do it! Let me Also say : You will most likely love it! I have two Nikon ProStaffs already, both 4-12x40mm's both on .22LRs, one "Nikoplex" reticle one "BDC" reticle, and now I have the Monarch coming for my 700 .308 .... And seriously, I cannot say enough how great the ProStaffs are, on the .22LR's its like cheating. 4x is enough for my basic shooting and being able to zoom in to 12 is basically more than you could even use a .22LR for... Nikon is one of those examples about Japanese super quality and engineering ... I had been looking at a view of the highest end Leupold VX 3 and VX 3L and basically, a lot of people are saying not only does Monarch line of Nikon equal the VX3 Leupolds, they may actually exceed and beat them... *at half the price* ... So I can't be happier right now (Now of course it could suck when I get it , but that could be said for anything). I am also SO HAPPY I did not order it last night and waited and then got it for 25% off 12 hours later, lol. That is just pure Lucky luck.

Now till midnite, Dick's Sporting Goods is doing 25% off ONE Single item and $20 credit towards shipping (ie free shipping to MOST but not all ...). I just got a Nikon Monarch 5-20x44mm BDC scope for my Remington 700 ... THE THING IS, I ALMOST BOUGHT IT FROM THEM LAST NIGHT @ 9PM, and got distracted by the dog raising hell about something, having to get my ace up, dressed in cold weather gear, take him out, etc. and then I came in and the computer had went to sleep and I didn't buy it after all. Well I saved myself $125 today give or take so, Wooohooo! THE ONLY PROBLEM was Dick's didn't have a ton of selection scope wise, their Leupold selection sucked, the only more premium choice was Swarovski but I didn't want a 4-12 which was the best I could do in their selection , as I am already a Nikon guy I went with what some call the best of the best for the buck, Nikon Monarch. ANYWAY- Use this to get something you want or need, 25% off one item and free shipping till tonight midnight,

Pizza Bob hit it right on the head , a LOT of Bolt Action .223 rifles are 1:12 Twist (which is totally a varmint round setup) and even if you get 1:9, if you have optimized your ammo porffolio for your 1:7 AR(s), you might not be happy with the fact the new rifle doesn't shoot your stuff very well. Having said that, you would probably love a Remington 700 SPS Tactical like you said, or Savage - I like the LE Model 10 "Precision Carbine". That is what I had intended to buy but I walked out with a Remington 700 AAC-SD (Which is a specific model in the SPS Tactical line basically- 20" heavy barrel, 1:10 Twist, threaded muzzle, 5 round capacity .308) ... Now I absolutely love mine but I am also totally into Savage and their Law Enforcement series rifles are some of the best bang for buck you could find, and I am all about the bang for buck. I know the Savage Precision Carbine is available in .223, and am sure a bunch of their other ones are (I believe their standard 10 series with either a HS Precision stock, McMillian stock, etc.). For the price, you are hard pressed to beat a Savage or Remington 700 in a bolt action rifle IMHO. I went Remington but love Savage and have one of their .22's.

I have a pretty heavily modified 597 and it's absolutely awesome and amazing but it did require some Tender Lovin Care and certainly some Money, Manpower, and Equipment. The 597 was designed by Remington to be a 10/22 killer, and I happen to just not ever want a 10/22 (Probably BECAUSE of their popularity, to each his own I know, just not for me)... and the 597 Action and the barrels are awesome. In fact the bbl is really where Remington spent the money they had on the 597. The biggest problem is the extractor. Mine for example basically did not function out of the box. It was so disappointing. I was brand new to buying my own firearms, it was my first longgun, and it just sucked. So it went into the closet, and I bought a Savage Mk II two or three weeks later. Two or three weeks after that I bought a 15-22, and I had no need for my scoped, autoloading junker. | About a year later I Decided to do something about it and started research. The Extractor Remington uses is basically junk and should be removed from production. Volquartsen makes an AMAZING aftermarket part, and at the time (3 years ago?) it was like $19.99 ... and they also make a $39.99 Hammer. The VQ Extractor makes the rifle go from non functioning to absolutely perfect IMMEDIATELY .. and the target hammer lightens up trigger pull by 50% and works out any play or creep in the squeezing of the trigger. Amazing. But those two parts are like basically NECESSARY for a 597, I have been posting this on various forums for over two years now, people have come back and thanked me and said, You know you were right, if you just install those two parts its a whole new rifle. Judging it with the factory extractor and hammer is completely different. Now I chose to go the extra mile so while having those installed I had gunsmith give it a nice TLC once over, also had the scope changed from the included combo scope to a new Nikon ProStaff 4-12x40mm , had sling studs installed, swivels, a regular military silent sling, even a bipod... Then I really had some fun and spray painted the stock my take on digital camo (most people hate it so I guess I didn't do a very good job). it is an amazing rifle now. And short of those $2000+ jobs of fully customed 10/22s it is not afraid of any Ruger guys we meet at the range. But you kind of have to WANT to go this route, I guess I did. I like upgrading, and I like customizing. (I would say I probably NEED to customize a gun to make me feel comfortable with it), and I also happen to be a big Remington fan and liked buying a Remington rifle (And I just completed my Remington Super Trifecta of owning a 597, 870, and 700 .) Most people seem to want to buy a $2-$300 ~~ 10/22 and be done with it. That just isn't for me but I am understanding of why that might appeal to a broad spectrum.

I held this at CMO , they had a few 590s and did not understand I was looking for a 590A1, and lo and behold they found two 590A1s (both I did not want). One was a 18.5" bbl w/ 3-dot rifle sights, the other was the 590A1 Light Forend. I have to say I did not like the feel of it. I cannot explain why, i just did not like that lighted forend. And of course you are paying extra for it, or shall I say I would have been, paying for something I didn't like at all. I would MUCH RATHER for example, take my Magpul-customized 870 Tactical and put a Streamlight TLR-1HP on the forend by adding a small picatinny rail section on the top front of the forend, and then maybe just run a remote switch or maybe not. I would really prefer this than the lighted forend.

The Magpul stock is the bomb. Worth every dime. Now i actually typed out a poem but I deleted it because I don't really like to show off , believe it or not.

Read my post over again.

To be honest not really. I checked on the screws, while I wouldn't know if they are actually in fact wrong, I'm *pretty sure* he installed what came with them and they definitely aren't sticking out, I checked with my finger and i cant feel anything so , unless I am also missing it completely, it is not that, but I admit I could be wrong. 2- Now when you say magazine box, what are we referring to? I haven't a magazine, for me I have what looks like the follower, a kind of Z shaped piece of flexible wire-metal-type that connects one end to the follower, other end to the bottom plate. So when you push it closed the follower goes up into the chamber/ejection port area, the flexible metal forms into a close tight shape, and the end plate becomes flush with the stock. When you push the release, the end plate swings open, the flexible metal is expanded into a longer piece via gravity and the follower hangs down... Did that make any sense at all? I tried to clean it good and hopefully it will resolve itself with some actual firing but I don't know when that will be, I am wondering if I should just go ahead and try to make this an actual magazine model with some conversion kit type deal I have seen. But that should be absolutely separate from it not feeding perfect and im still not sure it is fine but maybe I am just being picky.

I have bought a bunch of long guns from Dick's over the past 2-3 years, I think like 6? And I think half and half Jersey store / PA Store. And the PA store refuses to sell an AR, even the NJ compliant versions. My famous story was in Feb 2010 I had saved a bunch of money for having received my paperwork just recently, and I went out shopping looking to make my collection a little. Dick's in Oxford Valley Mall sold me a M930SPX, but the next day when I went back to buy a Remington R-15 that caught my eye, one of the managers stopped me at the checkout with my card in hand ABOUT TO SWIPE screaming "No nono noooonoo onooooooo YOU CANT HAVE THAT" and in the nick of time he prevented the sale saying it was illegal to own in NJ. He refunded my NICS money and gave me a $50 gift card and said Sorry dude . Turns out the M930SPX was not Jersey legal off the shelf but the Remington R-15 model I had picked out was perfectly fine. Now in retrospect, I have always thought I did okay. And the next day after not buying the R-15 I lost my job suddenly, so having the extra $1100 or so for the rifle and say $400 or so in extras I was spending, well, that %1500 was big to still have. But i Wanted my damned Remington camo AR. at the time I was pretty ticked. Especially when I found out it was all good.

It sounds like his justification was, "There are semi auto turkey hunting shotguns made with pistol grips... " ; so ergo "... this is legal !!!" When in fact neither of them are legal in New Jersey , and it sounds like that person is either desperate for money and cutting corners/bamboozling people or simply lacks any brains, Fielders Choice.

I was thinking the same thing, how did you plan to hold it? I think you are either confused or thinking of the 'featureless builds' in the old California AR community, where they had something I believe called like a "supergrip" or "superman stock" where you had a huge handhold in the stock area at an angle, bec. you couldn't have a pistol grip as that was a feature. (evil feature). Otherwise, as stated, what would be the point of putting your A2 Stock from a Bushmaster on a Saiga 12 w/o a pistol grip... I bought a Saiga 12 just last week, and am pretty sure I am staying with the stock or going with the thumbhold "skeleton stock" from Saiga factory.