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I have been using Google Chrome instead of Firefox that I used for 10 years and it keeps on refreshing or going back and making me lose all my typed words so I am going to have t give you a quick post instead of a detailed post (Boo hoo I know i Know). Anyway, HS Precision is the probable "cheapest" of the "high quality" options. I know that both Remington and Savage use them for factory rifles in their tactical 700 series(I forget which models, NOT THe SPS Tactical but some other one i believe maybe the Target Tactical) and the Savage uses several Model 10 LE rifles with HS Precision. If I got one for Christmas I would mount if happily. You could consider Choate which makes excellent stuff at excellent values... riflestock dot com. I am in the process of building myself a 'sniper rifle' - basically a tactical rifle in the USMC / US Army style of M40 - M24 knockoffs. I have a very awesome Remington 700 'SPS Tactical' "AAC-SD" .308 w/ 20" Heavy Barrel & Tactical Rifling 1:10 ... It includes a Hogue OverMolded Stock w/ aluminum pillar bedding (NOT the full bed block) .. this is a basic bedding job which is much better than the standard injection molded plastic stocks the SPS Tactical and most other factory rifles are included with.. BUT IT IS NOT a glass job (real fiberglass bedding) or a real aluminum pillar bedding like the better Hogue)/ So I have bought a lot of accessories for my rifle, trying to buy the best in each category one by one, and stock will be my last because I am going to wait till I can get a very very nice one. pART of me wants to wait for the AICS system, Accuracy Internation Chassis System with a nice pistol gripped thumbhole stock for gripping, a forend perfect for resting on sandbags or field expedient (read: junk set in the heat of battle) rests all the way to fancy pantsy perfect tables and benchrest sets for competition, AND Bipods if necessary etc. plus it has the detachable magazines. But it's like $800 minimum (I think like 2-300 more for foldable rear stock) ... I think I will more likely go with McMillan which is regarded as the overall best of the rest/best and is expensive yet affordable. The McMillan A4/A5 are regarded as top of the line law enforcement/military sniper rifle stocks currently in use by a TON of local / state/ federal law enforcement agencies... and the A4 was I believe the USMC M40A3 stock, (the M40A3 being the predominant sniper rifle in Iraq, it had just been deployed fully before the war and saw great use. In Afghanistan everyone was complaining the 7.62 NATO was not good enough for long distance /angular warfare in the mtns, so they wwre deploying all kinds of rifles and calibers while the M40A3 won the war for sniping Marines).. I personally really really like the McMillan General Purpose Hunting stock.. an old school colored-camo scheme, with available sticky-grippies on the pistol-gripping area and forend gripping area (you can order specify without but I like) and an adjustable cheek rest /comb area which is perfect for a guy like me who is small and prefers a short shoulder purchase but high scope view .. AND it's affordable. The McMillan General Purpose Hunting stock made the USMC M40A1 which was the original be-all/end-all sniper rifle which revolutionized sniping for them (Gave them the 700 in 7.62x51 NATO vs. the .30-06 Winchester 70's... basically a real built sniper rifle vs. the Deer rifle they had been given (a damned good deer rifle of course) ).. then the really nice scopes, with the synthetic fiberglass and glass-bedded stocks CHANGED EVERYTHING for them in the jungle enviforment and beyond. So I like that scope to complete my M32 SWS ( 32 is halface'd between 24 and 40, SWS = Scrappy's Weapon System)... http://www.louisianaprecisionrifles.com/images/products/mcmillan-m40a-stock.jpg That is a picture of the stock I will buy, followed by a USMC M40A1 built upon it. http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRYcfynmujtX8im1yQb0y8Q2UDV6KKxlAaHCUvIHZQGLY5xngXPWfZnrwPz

I'm extremely jealous... I always wanted a Sig P226 and the Sig P226 Navy is what I really want... I bought a Glock 23 in .40 S&W as my first pistol because it's what my father carried on the job and Glock is like our family brand / .40 S&W our family caliber, but I lust over the Sig P226 Navy or now the MK 25 a lot, Special Warfare issue and a beautiful looking, beautiful working piece of noisemaking machinery ... Very jealous sir.

Extremely well written and perfectly succinct ... Because of those two "features" the pump shotgun design is extremely 'clean' in its action and if you like the term 'self-cleaning' at all, the pump-action is 'self-cleaning' somewhat because it induces the dirty gunkyjunky into the area that the next boooom will expel it , lather-rinse-repeat. Obviously this is not the be-all-end-all but it's much much better than some semi-auto-shotguns ( a mid 80s ? or so 1100 classic we used for skeet shooting etc. one day with me and my buddy, a few couple hundred rounds of bird shot made that puppy DIS GUS TING bro. Like, almost to the point you'd just pay someone to clean it because it was so bad. [ fortunately i enjoy cleaning fireamrs so no problems.]

I did not know there was any thing different with left or right handed barrels (Learn something new every day!) but also remember, Mossberg is one of the biggest if not the biggest producers of Remington 870 barrels.... they make a ton! So if you cannot find a *REMINGTON* Remington 870 barrel to suit your needs just double check a *MOSSBERG* Remington 870 barrel.

I was leaning towards an HK USC but ultimately decided on a new 870 fully accessorized and ammo added on, a fully equipped Remington 700 AAC-SD .308 w/Nikon Monarch scope, Harris ultra-light hinged bipod, Viking Tactical sling, etC. AND A Saiga 12 w/ a ton of magazines and accessories for about the same price a USC and accessories would cost. ... and that would not include the EOTech / Aimpoint I'd need for the USC, at least two cases of ammo, etc. But I saw the Kriss and the Beretta and the HK and they are right up my alley,I like them a lot, range toys are a lot of fun.

Hey Bud I just want to point out, not only should you always be checking out a gun for function and form with a new ammo, /new cleaning-taking apart safety checks etc.... new firearm you got, you said, you are keeping it for Home Defense, .. but you say you've never fired this gun or Any other 12 gauge shotgun ? You *definitely* need and want to spend the hour or two or whatever it takes to go somewhere to test it out. Forget about the breaking it in because its a new gun, and even forget about the breaking it in/making sure it functions with the ammo you choose /use for home defense....Let's throw all that out because some people make arguments like "if I buy a Glock and a box of Speer Gold Dots or Federal Hydra Shoks its the most reliable gun with the best ammo, I should be able to just load it up set it and forget it" ... MAYBE- BUT A 12 gauge kicks like a mule and really is different than most all other guns... I mean you no disrespect because you might shoot .338 Lapua or Winchestwe Magnuns for Alaskan outback wilderness etc. and this is childs play... But this is really a big deal IMHO. I will be completely honest.. When I bought my Mossberg 930 SPX I was riding HIGH... I had the shotgun of the year, everyone loved this gun and raved about it, and everyone in NJ wanted it no one could get it , I was the luckiest guy and I had the cool toy on the block no one else did.. But my initial shooting trip changed my mind a LOT... the kick was borderline unmanageable for me, and i seriously debated if I wanted to use it for life defending.. It was TOUGH to keep the barrel down on target, hurt my shoulder, etc. and was NOT FUN to shoot. But a LimbSaver and installation really changed all that.... by NOT Shooting your gun you would never know these things and might not be findng out until the bad guy kicks in the door, am I right? OK Thanks, hope it works out for you.

ruger where are you from? I go to Ready Aim Fire in Bristol PA and blast Buckshot all day long buddy. Basically they allow pistol calibers and shotguns. ... I basically take full advantage. All my .22LRs I shoot, handguns (.40, 9mm, .38) and 12 gauge shotgun. I usually shoot about one or two boxes of 00 BUCK to get the shotguns going then put at least 1 100rd Federal value bulk pack of 7 12 or 8 shot per shotgun through...no problems. They say no slugs, now I have never shot slugs because I don't want to get banned , but thisrange has absolutely NO OVERSIGHT or supervsin.. so you might get lucky. YOU will be able to soot all the buck you want, I do. Generally after I break out my M930SPX or new 870 someone always goes and rents a shotgun. The one tghing I have to say, is this is a terrible place to shoot other than its easy and cheap. It is a known gang hangout. My retired LEO Dad has twice got phone calls from old friends doing sneaking and peaking "Ohh I see }Scrappy Jr[ was up EARLY Sunday mornng shooting huh.... etc because they watch it. And the gANG Wannabes are terriblw, tey shine their lasers on targets on other peoples range lane "OOOPS", ... USE Terrible language etc. Other than that, its fine with me. I like it because its indoors, easy fr me to get to, low key, no one really bothers me, I generally have a lot of comp;liant guns to shoot there, its just very convenient for me. BUT There are lot of better ranges, this is just the easiest for me unless I wanna shoot my AKs/ARs/.308 et.c

Absolutely right and don't worry i would never defend all even tho there are notable bad. Being educated and/or intelligent in this world means being able to accept those facts and circumstances that aren't favorable to you, your position, or beliefs, but are facts nonetheless. The immature, uneducated, or non inteilligent, are those who insist on holding to what they want to be real despite evidence to the contrary.

Damned I lost my post again... Anyway I was gonna say ,you're right, there are bad cops, terrible cops, and downrigth criminal cops.. all over the country. BUT there are terrible people and downright criminals or scum of tghe earth all over the place and in all types of fields, from electricians to school teachers and doctors/lawyers/ walmart workers / wine sommeliers and everywhere in between. People tend to blindly label cops because they might have got a ticket tyhey feel wasn't fair , whether it was fair ort not. and they make no mention of other ppl they didnt get treated right by in a worse way etc. Anyway I stopped trying to defend my Dad's profession (Cops in general) aftr my early 20's,. college was a constant battle even with my bestest friends (Fraternity brothers who I loved, they loved me, but did not see eye-to-eye because they got in trouble before or lvoed to blast "F Te Police' when they knew it steamed me up nbig time. and then I realized two things- Trying to defend cops to people who have already made up their mind is stupid. You just can't. This very gun forum community is a perfect example of thew microcosm of society, i see particular people over and over and over say things that are opinionated, wrong, completely falsr, completely their opinion, ertc. Everything from \"Bushmaster Sux: becase Arfcom etc. says so, the battle going on i stepped into on a diff. subforum about Midlength vs .Carbine,. 10/22s are the best every 597s suck. the list goes on and on and on... and this is just NJ Gun Forum. you njust CANNOT change am ind already made up, facts just make them madder. Conversely, *wanting* to fight about these things and change the minds etc. make you just as bad as thrm. At best, you're immature (not in a negative way, as in not Matured to the ways of the interwebz or world) at words its narcaissim thinking YOU will be the one to change the opininos and brain cells where no one else could. As far as police and convicing ppl their errors, the best way I heard it put is this: When YOUR Mom (not YOU I mean you being the person out there saying the randon bad things, just Johhny Bravo Example A) is calling 911 becasue her door is beng kicked in, when YOUR dAUGhter has been raped coming home froma party ort YOUR Sister has been beaten by a Boyfriend/ Fiance / Ex Husband / Current Husband etc.-- Even when yoir hous e has nbeen completely robbed and ransacked and you are scared sheitless theyh could be back _ The cops you dialed 911 for can't get their fast enough, have become your best firends and your confidants and your heros in Blue armor and Steel Shields , .... They can't get their fast eno0ugh and can't do their jobs good enough. I've seen it and heard it over and over and it ain't gonna change anyyime soon.

I certainly did not mean to insult you , if you took it as me insulting you then I will apologize because that's not at all what I was trying to do. I will say, you have been around long enough to know, that there are regularly extremely not nice and very long and repeated day in and day out threads on exactly what I described on the AR15 and M4Carbine and even bigger firearms forums not dedicated to just ARs , all the time, so I am not sure where your shock comes from, And I took it as the original poster might have come across some of those type of posts / "discussions" in his research and was either confused or concerned. Again, I was referencing a lot more of the internet firearms community / forum world than just the NJ firearbms forums / AR community discussion, I was pretty sure everyone would understand that. It's pretty hard to defend myself when suddenly people aren't able to tell when a post is clearly facetious and joking versus, what is it I am, bitter about my old ar, I mean come on . The gas length wars on the internet forums have produced so much absolutely false, misleading information and have done it in some of the most vindictive and terrible-human-conduct posts I've seen some people treat other people in the AR forums, I was just trying to spare someone the thought they "screwed up" by going with one style of rifle or even getting the same trashy talk and terrible treatment other people get by posting the same stuff on the other forums, thats all. Believe it or not I was trying to help and maybe bring a little lightheartedness and fun to it, thats all.

Ken and Checker hit it right on the head.. Most likely close but you should ALWAYS re-zero for confirmation ... at least a few shots to check your check. One thing I learned from the United States Army FM23-10 Sniper Training / sniper field manual- when you setup your firearm and optics system and get the platform going the way you want it, you should mentally (or physically if you need to, write it down or mark it with a sharpie etc) note the rail space / exact rail location you are using to mount your optic (Be it a 3-9x40mm on your hunting rifle w/ rail, an EOTech on your zombie AR or Aimpoint on your M4 Carbine) and then always use that exact space/rail to re-mount ... like you can count 1 2 3..... ok I am placing my EOTech so the rear of the sight starts on the 7th rail ; therefore, in the future I always re-mount it to the 7th rail to the rear of the sight, so it is always in the exact place you zero'd it and you return it to the exact place you zero'd it when you re-mount it. This was an invaluable tip and something that makes perfect sense but I probably would not have thought to done myself if not for reading it. Anyway I use Aimpoint at the moment but I might buy an EOTech or two in the future, and when I do I'll definitely be going quick detach for the rezero capability.

Yeah maybe I will brother... its' not far from me and I'm thinking about Christmas presents for my Dad. I already dropped a LOT on a new Saiga 12 for him (And a ton of accessories already) but I really would like to get still for him an optic (Like EOTech, Aimpoint, etc... maybe a Nikon Monach red dot), a quad rail /hand guard, etc. But the other stuff you seem to have might work too, he's a retired police captain, I'm sure I could find something. Do you carry Streamlight flashlights, we are both big fans... and anything else you might have on special you might recommend? (Not just flashlights I mean anyrhing that strikes you as a great present)

Just FYI ( I typed out a long informative post but I refreshed and lost it all)... instead of buying a Glock 19, if you buy a Glock 23 in .40 cal, you can buy a $100 conversion barrel and shoot 9mm out of the G23 all day long when you want to (Same exact pistol basically the 19 and 23, minor minor differences in actual pistol between the two calibers) PLUS you can get a .357 SIG conversion barrel for the G23 and shoot .357 SIG out of it when you want to,extremely easily and also still lik4e $100 bucks for the barrel. So while the G19 is great, you gotta stick with G19 an 9mm when you get it. Getting G23 lets you shoot factory style .40 cal, easily converted with a 40-9 barrel to 9mm, easily converted .357 SIG. Just food for thought brother.

You're sounding like you're pro-Police which is great and unfortunately not very popular these days or really ever. Growing up I was called a piglet, snitch, rat, etc. simply for being my Dad's son, and it made me so proud of him and proud to have a family member a police officer I would have it no other way. I was not familiar with the gentleman Lt you mentioned, I did a brief Google and remember there was some sort of big ruckus over those M1 Carbines... I don't remember exactly, was it that they said the new one copy was good to go and then once everyone got theirs they said No Go you're all felons? I don't know what or how the Lt guy fit in.. I will say I remember how everyone on this board told me the NJSP would *NEVER* give me opinions on legality/illegality of guns or accessories or situations involving guns etc.. And I said I think they will ,my Dad is a retired Captain of some recognition, if you're nice to them they're generally nice to you (That goes for all police officers in my humble opinion) and the smart guys on here told me basically, the cops would tell me they're sorry for my Dad to have raised such an idiot son that should know better to call them asking for opinions on the laws of guns here etc. Which would turn out to be as far from reality as possible. Every time I've called and asked them questions they have been downright cordial and accommodating as possible... When I got my M930SPX in early early 2010 and called them after I was told it was illegal, they were downright awesome...One guy yelled to the other guy how "Hey this guy got that awesome shotgun of the year somehow!!" and told me how the magazine capacity was indeed out of the law so I needed to change it ASAP and not go showing it off until I did etc. etc. and even said I was lucky there would be jealousy about it (And how.) I called a few other times about what they considered to be pinned stocks and pinned magazines and permanent vs modified temporarily etc. and while they usually always say they aren't really giving me legal advice/decisions and they won't be the guys I would encounter "in the field" anyway, they've Always seemed nice to me. Some people made up their mind all cops are certain ways/things/people a long time ago, and to those I don't say a blessed thing.. there isn't a point. Sometimes the best way to convince someone they're wrong is to let them have it their own way.

You know I gotta beg your forgiveness, I thought you were a firearms shop, which had me excited because I did not know one existed ... Thats all buddy thank you tho for the info

Ahh sorry brother I thought you meant me, no harm no foul bro.

not bitter at all, I gave up on the AR a while back, it was a lot of fun to hold and dream about using it in anger and doing my ninja flips while getting my Green Beret on. Once I got that out of my system, I realized I had set out what I wanted to accomplish. I bought myself an AR. I got a bunch of accessories. I did what I consider and a lot of other people considered to me an awesome awesome job making it look and feel great. Everywhere I took it people were extremely complimentary about it. I'd say, if 5 people said "it's not for me" or "I don't like it" , then at least 95 others said they loved it. Again, then I realized I would really never use it all that much, and i am much more into survival , preparedness, and practicality. So I have changed what's important to me, went the AK Variant route, stockpiled thousands of 7.62x39mm rounds , am concentrating on getting my new Remington 700 .308 completely set up and ready just in case, furthering my shotgun collection and ammo stockpile... and if I want to have fun with the AR Platform I have a $1500 S&W M&P 15-22 setup to play with to my heart's content. Now I just leave the AR flame wars and arguments to those who really *ARE* in fact bitter about it, those who feel the need to insult the carbine guys because they have the cooler mid length carbines, and those with the carbines who are now forced to justify their very existence and relevance to the mid length delta force. I just pop the popcorn and watch.

If it bothers you or anyone else so much, that I am posting stuff about relevant firearms and community topics, *** do not work those precious brain cells and read them or bother commenting *** I can't make it any simpler than that. If it BOTHERS YOU SO MUCH just ignore me|!

^^^ Further proof there are great cops out there that is, sorry needed to clarify

This is just further proof (some of us never needed any to begin with, we see it every day when we speak to our hero family member officers) Some of us knew this for the past 31-32 years and all of our lives, ---- and we're damn proud to be served by the Finest and these guys just continue the finest traditions of the blue uniform, not only by PROTECTING but by SERVING as well.. serving this member of the community to the tune of what was it, $30G's ? because these officers chose not to bamboozle . Good on em.

who me? Naw man I got two separate Zastava PAPs in summer 2010, early early and late late summer, both were the single stack PAP model. I don't think they had even started making the double stack PAPs til this year. Now they have double stack wood, double stack synthetic, single stack wood and single stack synthetic.

Its the factory 5 round mag. Not pinned or anything. I did notice a few things, Saiga 12 magazines are huge to begin with, and of course for some reason the factory mags seem to be longer than other one for some reason,... so maybe that is why they appear long to you? The 10 round ProMag "box" magazine is just damned long.

It's because some cool dudes on internet forums that know how to (barely) read and parrot what they read from other cool dudes came up with the notion that carbine length ARs suck and make you a mall ninja, but high speed lo drag OPERATORS use Mid Length and therefore it makes you more specially forced and equipped to handle zombies, and then they started lathering, rinsing, and repeating what they were informed, but now they inform others with a similiar disparagingly difficult tone in their text, saying how Carbine Lengths suck and they hate you... Inspiring a mass exodus of carbine length ARs and now they all had to go by Delta Force Mid Lengths, which caused more people to lather, rinse and repeat.

Yes sir the Saiga 12 is a semi automatic autoloading shotgun. For me and most likely the rest of law abiding New Jersey, magazines of 5 are the norm. (Mine came with a single, 5 round factory magazine in the box and I just ordered like 8 5-round "ProMag" brand magazines, they are very reasonable compared to the other brands. Some ppl are saying they suck, some people are saying the people who say they suck in fact suck themselves, and the ProMags are totally a Go and fine to use and vALue all the way.). Looking on the Wikipedia entry for Saiga 12, it says there are 2, 5, 8, and 10 round "box magazines" (the normal kind of magazine you 'd think of) available and 12, 20, and 30 round circular "Drum" magazines also available. Hope that helps you ruger9

These are Scrappy's Blacktical Boomsticks son!!!! My shotgun portfolio's pride and joy!!! Unfortunately the Benelli Supernova blacktical tactical turkey 24" Supernova SteadyGrip is no longer with us.. Although it was a beautiful sexay smooth silky sleek shotgun. I will probably add another Supernova, this time a Supernova Tactical / C-stock maybe, and probably a 590A1 SPX, one of these days.. I've been spending a lot of toy money on accessorizing what I have, maybe I will redirect some toy money soon. The Top Dawg is my Mossberg 930 SPX .... There's a lot of story behind that, I don't even try to tell it anymore, brings out a lot of hate. Anyway it's a beauty to me... Choate +1 rather than the factory +3 extension... LPA Italy ghost ring rear winged aperature atop their pic rail, front is the LPA winged red fiber optic light tube/pipe aka the "M16 Style Front" ..... COMPLIMENTED By the totally awesome Aimpoint Micro R-1 ..., the Aimpoint Micro combined with LimbSaver transform it from a home defense shotgun to a totally offensive Combat Shotgun and SWS - Scrapmaster Weapon System. Amazing. I have a few secret plans for upgrades and addons in the future but as of now I am happy as is, It's my love and most irreplaceable firearm in my portfolio. Next is my new Remington 870 Tactical Magpul. As you see, it's the Tactical which has been Magpul'ed with their SGA 870 Shotgun Stock, SGA 870 Shotgun Forend, Rear/Receiver Sling Mount, Front/Magazine Extension-barrel Sling Mount, not shown are the two slings i have for it, a single point Magpul MS/2 Sling *Quick changing from single point and 2 point quick release / quick adjust* and the real awesome kickers are the Tactical RemChoke muzzle device / muzzle brake / door breaching / stand off device / compliance device , *AND * XS Sights Ghost Ring/Big Dot Sights. I *COULD NOT BE HAPPIER* with this. ... Then I added a LimbSaver recoil pad...it is PERFECTION..... Although because I like to have the best of the best of the best, I am having it further customized --Gonna have it "Police'd", made into an 870 Configuration by heavy zinc parkerized, receiver upgraded to "Police" build parts, a lot of barrel/chamber/extension honed, polished, checked, staked.restaked/checked again etc... and finished w/ Wilson Combat safety/ Woohoo Excitement. so it will be the Scraptical 870 Tactical Magpul Police. Lastly is going to be my surprise @ Christmas woohoo! My new Saiga 12...What else can I Say but it's the real deal Russian AK that takes magazines and is a 12 gauge. A LOT May be going into this, I'm still deciding between another Aimpoint, an EOTech, Mepro M21 or Zeiss...the proper quad rail and angled foregrip, etc. We shall see, I can't wait. I'll add more pics as I customized it further.... OK thanks for checking out my pix!