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It makes sense to me so that's all that's important. Krdshrk - http://primaryarms.com/product.sc?productId=1643&categoryId=9 There you go buddy. $99 bucks, add on the flip-to-side mount, it's $138.l I will say this. I've talked to a TON of people who LOVED RAVED PRAISED the deluxe 3X Magnifier, but just OK'd the FTS Mount. There is a few videos on YouTube including one quite extensive, the Gent had an EOTech? I believe, replete with EOTech magnifier, he said he could find NO Appreciable difference except the $600 ~~ or so he had in the EOTech magnifier, and sold it after he bought the PA 3X Deluxe, basically said he used the $500 for more gun stuff and was extremely happy. But like I said, the LaRue mount get a lot more praise, but it can be $125-$250 depending. I don't need that much ... I just want this to mess around with. $139 sounds damn good to me.

GENERALLY my M930SPX has the tube full, it's not cocked, and the safety is on. I know there are plenty of other ways to do it and plenty of tweaks to this, that's just my blend of comfort vs. comfort. I.e. peace of mind it's safe and peace of mind it's ready to deploy in life saving use. When I had my Benelli Supernova which was AWESOME, a 24" SteadyGrip pistol-grip-stock model with a red fiber optic front sight, and amazing lines and handling- Very much exactly like what Mossberg is calling their "Tactical Turkey" guns. I kept that full tube,with the gun's safety on and a round in the chamber but the chamber was open and pump back. So I could simply push it forward to load the round and have it ready to shoot.... BUT I had to make that conscious move- Rack forward to load it. I will keep a future-to-be-purchased Benelli SNT the same way. Now I keep the safety's on safe, even if this is not Cruiser Ready or proper whatever. On guns I have with safetys, like "ON-OFF" switches", I keep them on Safe. I was raised with a Glock and learned when I was 7, or 8? How the safe-action trigger worked, and the 3 internal safetys, lack of ON OFF Switch. Having said that, IF my Glock had an off-on switch I would most likely use it.

Far Less Accurate is surprising to me. I can't comment on the 10/22, I am rather Anti-Ruger and especially anti-10/22. But I am very happy with my 15/22. Now I had a simple red dot / "holosite" on it, mine was an NcStar but there are like 100 variants of the same damn sight ... and it was dead on at 25 yards with the Circle-around-a-dot reticle (after extensive playi around and a lot of hard work zeroing.) and I also played around with the MBUS on it. I have not set mine up with a magnified optic/"Telescope" but I know many have and with some good-to-real-good ammo, I've seen internet forum posters with Amazing targets they've shot with target-rigged 15-22's. Again, mine is completely Tactical-rigged and really its more of a CQB AR for me, I have scoped .22's for the target or varmint/predator plinking. My 15-22 is for fun and pretending I'm Bob Brown.

I always liked them and now I think I'll have to get one just to hook it up and let ya'll hate on it, haha suckas! Benelli is worth every dime.

Just seen, this is quite new- It's Primary Arms 7X Magnifier which apparently has the same adjustments that make the "Deluxe 3X Magnifier" 'deluxe' ... So it's a 'Deluxe 7X' with available Flip-to-side mount... AND I Checked... I can/we can fit say my Aimpoint Micro w/ Daniel Defense tall mount, the magnifier FTS mount, and the Magpul MBUS on the receiver's top A3 rail. I think this is just great! I never bought the 3X magnifer, I wanted it it's just it didn't do it for me, and the 5X wasn't "deluxe" but- I hear this is pretty good stuff and the PA People are awesome, I asked all about it last sunday night, got an email response first thing this morning. If anyone has exp. with PA Magnifiers please sing out.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/2243.php Any opinion on this.. .It looks like a great deal. I had been scheming on how to save $3000+ for an 18" SPR rifle, like a MK12 etc. I have a more CQB-ish style AR, almost like an M4.. Kinda. But I would like a more precise 5.56 AR for a DMR role. Never really considered another upper ,because I wanted to have both available at the same time. But this looks like a good deal. it's not PERFECT for my wanta but, my vision is this: Attach a full rail to the bottom of the MOE handguard. Put an AFG to the rear, and a Harris bipod to the front. Magnified optic on it, probably couldn't afford the ACOG, we had this discussion, but there are deals for say the Trijicon AccuPoint 3-9x40 for $600-ish ... and now you have an awesome Upper Half for the AR that is ready to rock and roll for a DMR-style role . and it'll look pretty bangin too, which I like of course woohoo! any good?

Yeah I love it, its agreat shotgun and i want one just like it, but bro, do yourself a favor, 3.5" , you will blow yourself into the bathroom in a HD situation if the bad guys come. LOL, waaaaaayy to many great HD options at 2 3/4" from simple 00 Buck like Winchester walmart 15 rd packs to great stuff like Hornady TAP HD rounds, Fiocchi Smaller-sized RR 00 Buck to even PDX-1 ... even the 3" expensive HD ammo I have, I don't really even think of using. Not to tell you what to do, just looking out for a forum-member-therefore-friend, no need to go above 2 3/4, really IMHO.

Just FYI, it's not that I made it up, many people have either referred to them as, etc. gun shop ppl said, forum people (not necessarily here) have said how it's Benelli's second line/extra line/ shotguns thast didn't make the cut etc. and I'm quite certain at least the two tactical Stoeger's I saw, the pump that was liek the Supernovas Tactical and the semi like the M2 Tactical, they were made in Turkey .

Over Under never really did it for me, neither coach guns. I guess back in the day, a big-a$ blast from a shotgun barrel followed up by another big a$-blast was a huge deal, both armament-wise and technologically-wise. But it's 2011, ain't workin for me. Neither really do I Need a mag-fed shotgun, however awesome they may be. To me there is a happy medium, in the 5-9 shot range that a standard pump/semi with maybe an extension will be just fine to very good. And the Supernova I had was awesome, if not even as awesome as the Tactical. I love my Mossberg too, more than I would a Benelli maybe, but credit where credit is due, it's really smooth and sleek. I didn't want an 870 for probably the same reason I didn't want a 10/22, everyone had that, I like popularity but not necessarily the most popular.

JQP that is the best thing i have ever seen - awesome!

Hey man you got any deals going on presently bro?

I did not know he had one, as I said I was shown a few when I bought my Supernova, and literally Dick's was WHEELING AND DEALING that day on 3/17/10 (at oxford valley mall location, PA)... I got a $600 Supernova, for $350. And they offered me the pump Stoeger 350 defense , for an additional $199. I literally was about to do it when the kid was like, whispering "Save your money my boss can't give these away.." And I'm like, Benelli's 2nd line right"?? He shakes his head no, and I figured, one shotgun that day was enough, my 930 SPX is my main rig, an additonal Supernova was fine. Just something I look at. I have never ordered another Supernova [Tactical Ghost Ring] because I really also like the Mossberg 590A1's, and I can't justfiy BOTH of those plus a 930 SPX. So I figured, if they were okay, might be worth a look. But for $400, I would just get the Benelli again, they really are that nice.

Its cool , I don't really care what other people think of me lolol just kidding. But in honesty, see, I don't want a 3x max ACOG, i think we are comparing apples to oranges and different models etc. Personally I would not at all be happy with a $1000 lower end ACOG, I'd be very upset I didn't have the $1500 more advanced/etc. model. Same thing with new/used, I rarely buy a used, it just wouldn't do it for me (Exceptions for sure.) Whereas I remember I had a kid working for me in the booze business, he bought EVERYTHING he could used or "with some miles on it" as he would say, because in his mind there was a value perhaps a large value, sometimes not as large but a value nonetheless, in a used thing . Obviously used where things can be used, he never skimped on lunch orders etc. but if it could be a used deal, he did it that way. I know a few people like that. Now also let me say, if I could only have that $1000 ACOG, I might be more inclined to buy a top shelf $600 EOTech/Aimpoint sight and keep the cash, and have the best of my general area. Or maybe a few hundred dollar telescopic sight with an Aimpoint Micro on top, that would be very nice too. ESPECIALLY, I think what I will actually do, is buy a Trijicon AccuPoint scope, 3-9x40 or 2-10x56, and put a Primary Arms MicroDot on top of that. MicroDot is 4.5 oz, and universally accepted and praised, some say about as good as the Aimpoint except for battery life. Then you have a great great setup. And around Christmastime, there was various models of AccuPoint ALL OVER the net for $525-$550. I was saving for one, was gonna get one, then the R-1 sale hit and I bought two R-1's because it was an incredible deal.

I really think for the money, the Arsenal Saiga is $800 for the new NJ Legal version. The Vepr wood is like $850. I really am thinking I might like the Vepr and the wood better. Which is odd, I usually like black and more tactical style, but that Vepr seems to be both plenty tactical, and classy bad-a**. If anyone wants my bar equipment, those power tools, all together, even throw in the fridge, I would trade it for one of these brand new woohoo

Wondering if anyone has or has experience/info with Stoeger's defense guns... Some people have said that they're Benelli's second label, which in the wine business, can mean many different things. Some of the best deals in the world are "second labels", which can be 10-50-500-5000 wines in 4-40-400 pricetags, which again can be absolutely tremendous values or absolute waste of moneys and downright bad wines. I have handled a few of them on St. Patrick's Day /10 the day I bought my Supernova turkey/tac gun which I couldn't love and sold. I also saw the Pump defense P350? version at Sportsmans last summer but they wanted like $400 for it, just couldn't do it. they have a tactical auto 2000 semi auto model, which is inertia drive, same as their newest big boy auto , an Inertia 3.5" chambered gun like the newest Benelli. And their pump is a dead ringer for the Supernova tactical. But i've been told by two people, they're NOT Benelli, just owned by Benelli, the turkish quality is terrible and the parts are suspect/foul. And Benelli to me is the best, especially having owned one, but also the most expensive. Just wondering, everyone always talks the Coach guns from Stoeger, which I just don't have any inclination or desire to have, I like combat shotguns. If I was to buy a non-tactical shotgun, it would probably be hunting gun, followed by some Games gun like a Remington 1100, Maybe a Benelli but I dont have any interest in coach or Even the over/under, why pay $3500 for break action over unders that are all dolled up , and I would foul them up and scratch them up in my bedroom let alone the range. This is only my opinions and my use, of course everyone else has other likes and desires and uses, please don't take me wrong.

Oh man, you know it! I had/have a bad-a** Asus G50VT-X5 computer that is not only a bad-a** laptop for gaming and hi-def-hi-res multimedia, I did some surgery on it and upgraded it and maxed it out. But I also took it to work every day, put it in backpack, opened it up, used it for 9-13 hours, broke it down took it home, reopened it used it 1 -2-3-4 hours, put away for bed, did it again the next day, and its a heavy bulky laptop made for desktop replacing. So it was new in Early 09... in Early 2011 it broke, it had been knocked a few times, the screen stopped lighting up. Sucks. Might be unfixable, might not. Bottom line, I have to go back to my 2008 work issued but given to me Dell Vostro 1400, running Vista. Basically this laptop was designed for Executives, those who would only have to do email, web browsing, open a few programs or multimedias attachments/presentations etc. minimal stuff, cause they're the executives they aint got to do it. Anyway its running vista, i will live I had no laptop for 4 months + before I got this back from the person I "loaned' it to for a week-slash-2 years. And within a week on Sunday morning, I get "Vista Security 2011" and I knew instantly it was Ransomware, it was NASTY. Took me a few hours and plenty of hard work to get rid of it... thing was terrible. And afterwards I had a discussion with a neighbor, who brought up a computer virus she had recently , and how she paid the money cause she thought it was how to fix it, and not only did she get worse virus and worse money requirements ,they did the credit card fraud and tried identify theft. Traced the virus to like eastern europe. Sucks man. What DB's in the world. Organized crime like the sopranos doing airline tickets or nucky thompson bootlegging booze, who different type of crime than these inglorious basterds.

Absolutely absolutely completely love my two new Aimpoint Micro R-1's. Best thing i've bought for my firearms. They sold me on Aimpoints, if I had to go to war/ was entering sustained combat and got to pick some equipment for my rifle, I'd use an Aimpoint (probably a bigger sight than the Micro if it was a fulltime combat carbine/rifle. ) Now I have tried on EOTechs, and they have amazing reticles. That is such a great sight, really awesome , I would love to add on to my arsenal (A Bushmaster ACR with an EOTech makes me really want one, just not having the spare $2500). Both my NcStar's I bought did their job, and then broke. I didnt know bullstuff about bullstuff when I bought them, I put them on, they worked, they were damn tacticool, but basic range use broke them. $60 and $100 out the window. And then I read about quality optics, tried out quality and high quality, and it's all I'll use now. The Nikon ProStaff's on my .22LR rifles is the cheapest optic I use now , and borderline, some qualify those ProStaff as top shelf depending on who you're talking to, and when you're talking to me, I put two $160-$200 scopes on two $160-$200 .22LR rifles, excellent decision and they work awesome , but I learned. The only problem with optics I have now is two-fold. I really want something from the top-of-the-line like Trijicon. All their stuff is amazing but so expensive! I just cannot see how I could ever save say $1500 for a 4x32 ACOG /w BAC, and $600 for an RMR to put on top. Oh and I need the rifle to put it on top, lets go with $1200 for a Colt and $300 for Magpul furniture. $1500+2100 = f'in impossible.

That is an AWESOME Rifle! I would like an AR-10/.308 AR-style rifle, damn sure would . I would absolutely love to have an SR-25, I have considered starting saving for one, but they're mighty expensive and truth is I would need to spend a ton on Magpul to make the rifle look how I would like it, it just doesn't do it for me. Yours looks very nice tho, It works for me, but that paint job boy, that is some crazy a$$ $h!{ boy... It almost looks like it had an incredibly rough time in the sandbox combats of Irsq/The 'Stan.. crazy bro!

I noticed it said it was built on the RPK receiver and also was heavier, I assumed it was a good thing, I figured it wouldn't necessarily be something i had to carry all the time... Also the Ad says " WILL NOT ACCEPT STANDARD AK OR SAIGA MAGS" so therefore- it only accepts propriety "Vepr" mags? And I am really liking it, if I ever sell some stuff I might do it.. Now are Saigas available with the wood stocks already done? I am not much for converting them, i don't know if I cou;d handle that.

Hey what can be told about these Russian Veprs, with wooden thumbhole stock and wooden fore-end? http://centerfiresystems.com/AKAGUN-VEPR.aspx I saw it and immediately said I WANT ONE, HAVE TO HAVE ONE - I bought a Zastava for my Dad as a 60th, thought I could get the wooden furniture and I could not, and I was pissed... This Vepr looks like that wooden furniture only nicer and the AK part is supposed to be awesome if not the best, I immediately wanted one but damn- $850, wow that's a lot . A real lot . Add in like what $150 for an Ultimak and $500 for a sight (say a Trijicon Reflex or an Aimpoint) and it's just so much... So are they worth it? And also are there Saiga's looking like these that I'm missing? thanks

I've been snapping pics of my portfolio of firearms, I "forgot" that about two Christmas's ago I received a pretty awesome camera from my Dad, didn't really ask for it or need it but it was an awesome gift and I have decided I enjoy taking photographs of my gats with my camera. So I figured I'd resurrect this thread and bump this baby right up to the top, share my rimfires and encourage you to share yours as well. The first/top rifle is a Savage Mark II GXP ... It was a combo purchased from Dick's Sporting Goods (as I understand it, in Savage's product codes "XP" stands for Combo [comes with scope] and many of Dick's Sporting Goods rifles [Especially rimfire rifles] are combo packages with scopes) ... It is a .22LR, bolt-action, wooden stock, awesome rifle that came with a Bushnell Rimfire 3-9x40mm scope. Many internet forum commandos and not-nice-people/know-it-alls will tell you that any and all combo-pack scopes suck. This scope was FAULTLESS, the ONLY reason I was forced to replace it was because some DB at the range in the stall next to me knocked it over, and it took a cosmetic blemish on it. I didn't care but then I realized it messed up the internals and I could never get it to mantain zero, barely able to actually even zero it each range session, let alone maintain it. So it now wears a Nikon ProStaff 4-12x40mm BDC scope and it's an AWESOME rifle setup. Basically, this rifle was on the shelf with the scope for $199.99 ... I had mentioned to the person I was told it was recently on sale for $149.99, the guy was like "well that sale passed sorry." So I took out my phone, called up Dick's # on their website, and they said "Just ask for the manager and give him your phone" and Dick's office told the store mgr no problem, sell it for $149.99 ... The Store Manager said, for your trouble, I'll give you 10% off any accessories you buy right now for it. So I wound up getting the combo for %149.99 , and i also purchased a cheap soft rifle case, a spare magazine (they only had one and they're priced at like $22.99 for a 10 round cheapo mag, sheesh), a Hoppee's Rimfire cleaning kit, and I think a brick of CCI Standard Velocity 500rd pack, and he gave me 10% off all that stuff. It was great. Now this was maybe March 2010. Fast forward to May of 2011 and I needed a new scope, they had the Nikon ProStaff 4-12x40mm for $199.99, and I figured I would try again, I asked the manager if they would "match the price I found on the internet" and I ran a quick iPhone google search, the manager is like sure, what price you found? I see $165.99 and he's instantly like "yeah no problem tell the cashier $165.99" and that was it, done. Got the combo for $149.99, all the accessories that night 10% off , and got the scope for $165 instead of $199. And as I've said the rifle is dead-on accurate, a lot of fun to shoot, and it's a beautiful firearm to look at and handle. In retrospect I wish I had the bull barrel they have on another Mark II package but hey, can't have Everything now can ya. The next rifle on the picture is my S&W M&P 15-22 .22LR AR which everyone is very familiar with. My particular rifle, I went all out on. Mine wears a Magpul MOE stock all the way closed, MOE Pistol Grip, front and rear MBUS, a full quad-rail compliment of XTM panels in a custom digital camo pattern, an Angled Fore Grip, and I have an Aimpoint Micro R-1 for it... At the time of purchase I did not purchase a Mount for it, and I was pissed when I found out I needed to spend another $100... and I wound up putting the R-1 on my Mossberg 930 SPX and I just can't take the damn thing off, I like it so much on the shotgun lol. As many people know these 15-22's make such great fun ... Just so much fun to shoot, and they'd make such great little "tactical squirrel" rifles... I mean if I was taking my dog for a hike or I was going camping I'd almost want to carry this it's so much fun. And the bottom rifle is/was actually my first long gun purchase, it's also a Dick' Sporting Good's combo pack, Remington 597 .22LR. It was $199.99 and came with a "Remington" branded 3-9x32mm scope. This rifle sucked when I purchased it. I wanted a .22LR and was just getting into firearms, it looked like a good rifle for a good price, I trusted the name Remington, and they had a Remington 700 SPS Varmint in .308 for $499.99 and it was like an exact match for the 597, also OD Green synthetic stock, with a scope, I planned on purchasing the 700 too. I bought some Remington rimfire ammo at the time of purchase. I could not get more than 2 or 3 shots per magazine to actually fire . I was so frustrated with this rifle, it was terrible. I would up changing to more expensive Remington rimfire ammo, still sucked. I bought a different brand, I think I got 3-5 shots per magazine, it still sucked. I wound up putting this rifle away and then I bought the Mark II a few weeks later, the 15-22 a month after that, and the 597 sat untouched for a year. I decided a year later to do something about this, I wanted this rifle to work... I bought the Volquartsen Edge Extractor, the Volquartsen Target Hammer, some sling studs, swivels, & a sling, and a Nikon ProStaff 4-12x40 "Nikoplex" scope. Had it all professionally installed, and I got back a new rifle. Now the rifle is like a rimfire Rem 700, it has absolute reliability, dead nuts accuracy, amazing speed when you really get on it, and it's Fun to shoot now. Very happy I did the upgrades. Still considering a Boyd's Tacticool stock, looks like a good idea. And there is always the $300-$450 Volquartsen barrels, but that's just getting a little redonkulous now, but i like the rifle so much now I might do it you never know. So that's what I got for now, I'd still like the MP5 and perhaps someday a .17HMR or .22MAG, maybe someday.

I can't remember if I contributed mine so here's my bad mofos: My AR is a Bushmaster XM15-E2S from Arms and Ammo, I believe it's designated a Bushmaster "AK Carbine" : a 14.5" HBAR - 1.5" AK74 Muzzle Brake, generally M4-ish after that; Magpul CTR Stock, MBUS Rear Sight, MOE Hand guard with MVG Fore grip, MOE Pistol Grip, MOE Trigger Guard, MS/2 Sling, 15-round modified PMAGs from MidwestPX (I've got the 30 rd, 20 rd, and "stubbies" and I like them all) and Aimpoint Micro R-1 w/ Daniel Defense tall mount... I bought this as a gift to myself, just before Christmas, as a "get well/survival" gift for surviving and thriving after anterior artifical Total Disc Replacement surgery. I set it up as all Magpul, OD Green, and for CQB/HD (had the stock pinned 1-spot away from fully closed, went with the Aimpoint Micro and lower 1/3 co-witness, generally CQB) and as I mentioned, I love it. I admit I didn't know how vehement people on the internet web forums absolutely hated Bushmaster, but when you meet me you realize I have a "if I don't mind it don't matter" and a "hey buddy %*# you" so, I'm happy with it, it's not a Novekse or a Colt but it's right up my alley, and maybe my next AR which will serve a different purpose, I'll get a nice expensive one next time. My S&W M&P 15-22 is kind of my firearm "baby", went all out when I got it because I had never owned an "AR" and it was so much fun, so cool, and so cheap to shoot. It's decked out with a ton of Magpul XTM panel rail covers, front and rear MBUS, MOE Stock attached all the way closed, MOE Pistol Grip, and Angled Fore Grip. I also have an Aimpoint Micro R-1 for this one too, but I never got an additional mount (I didn't think I needed a mount since Aimpoint says it comes with an "integral mount" lol, and never bought one, and the R-1 has wound up on my Mossberg 930 SPX and as of yet hasn't come off.

I super glued my S&W M&P 15-22 , used an entire tube to "attach" a new Magpul MOE stock to the plastic 'buffer tube', then used blue loctite throughout the actual "action" of the stock so it can't ever be "actioned" again, very effective and very cheap/easy.

Most people love it or hate it, I really love it... I just don't know if I'd BUY one. But also check the Benelli USA website, now they come with both the pistol-gripped-shoulder-stock or a straight montecarlostyle rifle stock.

vj- I'm quite certain we're talking about the same person. Basically the deal with this guy, I came in once having recently been injured and had a cast on (and it was certainly a crazy-a** looking device) and everyone was staring and he keeps on pressing me for info. And I try like three or four times saying "I broke a bone, there's some stuff going on inside, I'd rather not talk about it it...." This f&$*&(!g guy yells to his buddies (who I also told I didn't want to talk about it, but they left me alone) 'HEY THE KID SAYS HE JUST BROKE A BONE BUT THERES SOME STUFF GOING ON INTERNALLY, Eetc.e tc. etc' and I'm like EXCUSE ME SIR, I SPECIFICALLY SAID I DIDn"T WANT TO DISCUSS IT, NEITHER WITH YOU NOR YOUR COWORKERS, AND YOU ANNOUNCE IT ACROSS THE ENTIRE STORE????? He actually replies something like "You should watch your tone when addressing me, both because I'm the one writing up the gun sales purchases paperwork and because I don't take kindly to disrespect" or something like that... I was FLOORED and basically said to another man "Will you please help me? I want you you to sell me this [supernova/pap/15-22/whatever it was] and If that guy makes another word in my direction I'm walking out with my money" Now, EVERY TIME I go in and he's working there, he basically pulls the same bullstuff routine," Hey don't I know you, you look real familiar... Where do I know you from.... So familiar ...aren't you the KID (kid, I'm thirty years old, but always with him "kid") that had that problem, yeah that bad injury, what was it, ??" And he does it all the time, he calls out to some other co-worker 'Hey Joey, it's him, it's that kid with the injury, remember the kid with the cast ????" and CONSTANTLY presses me for info , "you never did tell me what was wrong... You can tell ME baby, c'mon, what was the problem? No really i'm fascinated by medical stuff, what was wrong.... you can tell ME"... And he single-handed cost them and me a Sig 556 DMR... My buddy is rich and his family is anti gun so he treats my collection like its his, he just pays range fees and sometimes buys ammo. Never ENOUGH ammo, so it really pisses me off. I was explaining I wanted a long range AR to go with my CQB AR (we're working with a guy at CMO who I like, this Omar is just eavsdropping really...) "Oh what kind of AR you have for CQB huh?" I look over annoyingly because he wasn't part of the conversation and mention Bushmaster, and he gives one of those "Oh haha you got a Bushmaster laughs" and proceeds to tell me about his Colt and how I should get a Colt and I rudely basically cut him off and return to the topic... Anyway since my buddy uses my stuff all the time and is rich, AND we want a longer range AR (and a second AR so we can both shoot at Fort Dix") my boy's like, why don't I just loan you $2G's to buy a long range AR right now and we'll both work on hooking it up/modifying it/et.c it will be like our project... And I'm like Oh hells yeah, nice, lemme see that one right THERE ---> and I point to a nice looking thing, it's a Sig Sauer Designated Marksman Rifle... Our eyes light up it's beautiful we both like SIG, it's perfect for our use etc... I guess this Omar hears my buddy say "Two grand" and "Lets get it now" and comes running over "Oh nonono you don't want that that one ain't no good... you want .. .THIS ONE" and hands my buddy a 16" Sig 556 Swat/CQB model... "See how light it is??? That's what you want right there boy! I'll start the paperwork!" my buddy is like, that's NOT what I want, I hate the fact you interrupted me, and I wasn't even talking to you! I'm so disgusted we're leaving!" and he walks out the door, literally, that pissed him off so much we bounced. And I did not get the DMR I wanted. And to this day, when I go there, Omar says something about my injury or "you're that KID right..".... He may be your best friend and I can't speak at all if he's nice or not to other people, but to me he's consistently terrible. Someone hit the mark right on the head, though. The owner KNOWS he's got like 4-8 guys people hate and he doesn't care, they LITERALLY have the attitude "Where else you gonna go? Down the road? Not much of a contest. " I have heard "If you don't buy it now, someone else will later today" MILLIONS of times at CMO.