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TurboT, In fact I did sir, twice actually. Basically the one manager (I took him to be maybe late 30s or early 40s, he seemed to be like an XO-type or maybe a floor manager, operations manager, kind of like an executive officer type guy, maybe not the #1 overall but certainly one of the top guys and when he spoke everyone listened, and everyone around the store took orders from him, came to him with their problems / he was concerned store wide not just one or two sections/areas of responsibility etc.) , anyway he had said to me near the end, paraphrased, "You'd be doing the young kid (College aged kid who did all the work for me, I think a Temple student) a big big solid both in the short and long term if you took our "receipt feedback survey" and said something really nice about him, maybe even sneak in a compliment for the whole store" and I was like, ABSOLUTELY... Which I did. You get a website address from the bottom of the receipt... but it's almost all push-the-buttom-cooresponding type feedback questions, "5 I strong disagree, 3 I'm neutral, 1 I strongly disagree" Etc. There was a box for a personalized comment but it was only like 1200 characters max I think, and as we all know I can type that in 60 seconds flat lol. So I wrote as much and as nice as I could about the kid, the 3 managers, and the store overall. Then I got their company email address and typed up a longer, stronger, more formal and full email to explain both how absolutely upset I was initially at the situation and how the guys worked tirelessly to fix it and wound up making me very very happy in the end. Now I have not received a response to either, other than the standard "$10 off next purchase of $50 or more" coupon you get for completely filling out the receipt feedback survey... WHICH IS KIND OF BULLSTUFF because you can't spend it on firearms, firearms accessories, or ammunition -- THE is ONLY REASON I was in the place and the only thing I ever buy from them guns, ammo, and gun stuff. I am thinking when I go in next week to get my new scope. I will show who'ever is helping me the coupon and hopefully have them let me override that puppy and get me my $10 off on ammo. Now lastly, my Dad has suggested that, provided alls well that ends well and the new Nikon Monarch scope comes in on time and they get it mounted right and bore sighted right and I'm all Good - to - Go, I hand write the corporate office a letter detailing everything one last time, and thanking the exact gentlemen who helped me and showing how if not for them I would have left and never returned, whereas now I'm most likely a customer for life... I will almost certainly do that ,,, Just gotta get the deal done so, when that happens I will, Im sure. . I have noticed, every single day ythe past two weeks I awake to some sort of Dick's Sporting Goods discount offer in my email box.

hey where is your shop in Lambertville... I'm in Hopewell/Pennington , did not know about a shop in Lambertville... Thanks!

I really wonder , exactly how many thousands of dollars I have to spend OVER and/or how many actual firearms I have to purchase from them before I get considered a friend ? I will not hold my breath. And make sure you get your discount at the register immediately, because if you don't and they cheat you, they will call you a liar and call you out in front of the other customers trying to shame you into shutting up rather than give you the discounts they are advertising you are entitled to.

I was just gonna say- if it's a flash light what would you be zeroing? And even if it's a laser, "zeroing" it is about the easiest thing in the world, you can literally see the point of aim vs. point of impact vs where the laser is on the paper vs where you are aiming etc. , simple as pie. And again, if it's just a light model, I would not think twice, swap away as long as they fit.

Yeah roger that - actually I got two milsurp WASR 10 magazines for my PAP, one only holds 9 rounds. Don't ask me who why what when where how didly idly like Ned Flanders, but 9 rounds - finito.

I kind of say, if you're an idiot you might just deserve to get what could be coming to you. In early early 2010 when I got my Mossberg 930 SPX, no one in NJ had one, everyone in the country wanted one, they were the hottest selling things and had just been named the Shotgun of the Year etc. I had just got my paperwork, was out looking for magazines on Super Bowl Sunday morning, saw a Benelli M2 FIELD at the Dick's in PA rather than the M2 Tactical I had fallen in love with the day before , and said, you know even tho it's only $899 rather than $1250 I just don't LIKE this field like I loved the Tac, the manager goes, I have one left of something really special, you seem like you'd be really appreciative of it and are cool , maybe you'll like this;...... And takes out a M930SPX from the back. Literally the like 100-200 ppl out shopping started crowding around, WAIT I WANT ONE TOO, WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE IS ONLY ONE, I WANT IT, IF HE DOESNT BUY IT I'LL TAKE IT, WHY DID HE GET IT, Etc. Ppl started offering me 25, 50, 75, 100, 150, all the way to 200 cash to let them buy it. but this was MAGICAL to me, I asked, you sure i can buy this even tho I'm from NJ? The guys like, you got the card and matching license right? No problems!! Well I came home and took pictures and showed them off on GlockTalk, this forum, etc. And a BUNCH of people were totally jealous,and first it was WOW WHere did you get that, How did you get that, how awesome is it!!?!?! Then suddenly, "THATS ILLEGAL YOU BETTER GET RID OF THAT RIGHT NOW YOU POSTED PICTURES OF ILLEGAL SHOTGUN IN YOUR ROOM YO'RE GONNA GO TO HELL AND JAIL AND THE GULAGS You beeeeatch!!!!!" \" Want to sell it to me before you get in trouble tho?????" I immediately contacted the State Police to understand the law, realized the issue was the magazine capacity , the man I talked to was super cool and not at all threatening, explained to me how lucky I was, etc. and told me to have it fixed straight away. So I did, straight away, and had Choate make me a +1 magazine extension to replace their +3 it came with. And from then on I have been a very lucky, Extremely happy M930SPX owner. BUT- If I had continued posting pictures of it and showing off the setup that would be illegal in New Jersey, and furthermore attach these pictures to my personally named social media sites (And a whole lot more people connect with me on my social media etc. sites rather than on here).. I would basically be asking to get arrested/etc. and would deserve it. You don't flaunt breaking the law, ESPECIALLY Firearms law in New jersey. Just stupidity Imho.

Thanks to you gents, much appreciated. Hey, if my experience can maybe help someone else on here have a similiar experience, it was worth the typing right? At least that's how I feel about it. To those who are so mad about it, hey if you don't like me or my posts, don't read them... Simple as that! As far as I'm concerned, if I don't mind it doesn't matter, if you can't stand me or reading me feel free to buzz off elsewhere, because I'm not going to stop. Again thanks to those who were nice.

U can't have a flash hider on a shotgun?

Lmfao Sergeant Toadette You just made ME Cry! I just literally opened up my new Streamlight toy lights, I bought two different ones , two each, one of each for me and one of each for my Dad as Christmas present/stocking stuffer type presents. I had ordered a bunch of Christmas presents from MidwayUSA on Sunday and threw on some Streamlights to give extra stuff for opening up on Christmas (and of course they're Streamlights, I had assumed they would be plenty functional and plenty durable.) - I got, 2 Streamlight Key-Mate flashlights , White LED w/ Red and Green filters w/ black aluminum body - $16.29 w/ key chain OR Lanyard, interchangeable, and the filter caps are interchangeable (if you want to change from normal bright white LED light to say non-nightvision-ruining green or red or are attempting to conceal your position/ read a map in the field etc.) This is extremely small sized and packs a lot of light for the size 2 Streamlight Stylus flashlights, which are GREEN LED w/ black aluminum body $14.49 )The green LED light is bright enough to use for illuminating your map/ phone/direct path in front of you etc - this is the size of a nice pen with a nice clip for a front/breast pocket and is also able to be seen from over a mile away. both have super long life LEDs that are rated 100K hours...the stylus has a 60 hr battery life, the Key-mate has 96 hour battery life. I figured these would be great because,. the Stylus is perfect for Every Day Carry in one of several pockets, the KeyMate can be attached to keys for carrying, and I hoped they worked as a Streamlight is supposed to / as our SL20-LP's have worked. I hope your experience is an aberration rather than the norm Sarge, while I didn't drop a ton of cash and these aren't main presents they're just stocking stuffer / present appetizers, it would still suck if they sucked!! I will say, I will send these puppies straight to their local service center if there is a problem lol.

*AND* Prime gives you generally 2 day shipping as well no charge, Amazon Prime is a great deal ... I signed up for a "free trial" right after Last Christmastime, I then forget to cancel and get charged the like $80 bucks. Forgot that i had Amazon Prime until OCtober when i went to buy something, and realized I was getting free 2 day shipping ...and then I started using Amazon a whole lot more. Really awesome deal. AND When they screw up, and don't get your product to you intime, they overnight express it to you to make up for their errors. DOWNSIDE is tax will start being charged since Amazon is going to Mercer County soon.

THAT THING IS A BEAST.... Seriously brah that is like a Soviet T-72 TANK! LOL I am going to have to give that some serious consideration! Thanks! But for $200 that is so much money... I'd almost be tempted to go with a BattleComp for that much...not sure if the BattleComp 308 version would fit on the Saiga 12 (doubt it). For my new Rem 700 AAC-SD .308 I am also in the market for a muzzle device, I am thinking about either the BattleComp .308 or more likely the Advanced Armament Corp (AAC) "BREAKOUT" which is a combination of their Blackout! Flash-hider and Blackout! Muzzle Brake ... its a one chambered muzzle brake with 3 shortened prongs at the end, giving you a little bit of muzzle brake effect and a little bit of flash hider effect and of course looking cool. (I'd love to get an AAC Suppressor but .. of course.. NJ d'oh!). Thanks for this brake reco for my Saiga will have to do some serious considering brother, thank you very much.

Looks great buddy. I considered the 870 Marine Magnum myself (I wanted an 870 specifically for a Magpul build) and I wound up with the 870 Tactical, which I am soon to send out to AIP Tactical to have it made into a "870P Police" upgrade but yours looks beautiful buddy, you did really good. This is mine now before parkerizing and upgrading (The oil spots on there are from having just been wiped down with some oil wipes, no major problems). I will post after in a few months, but again, yours looks great bud.

While this does look like a good deal, I just want to point out that my new Streamlight has been the most amazing illumination device I've ever seen. my Dad and I both got Streamlight SL20-LP highly-powered, polymer top of the line Streamlight's for general purpose use, very importantly walking the dog with , both as a defensive spotlighter (Which has already drove off two foxes and a coyote that were charging my dog in the back yard during the summer, when the light hit their eyes all 3 stopped dead in their tracks), and in the emergency case could probably crack a small animals skull in case of extreme emergency... These are the real deal... Their brightness is indescribable, they have 3 settings PLUS a strobe, battery life is incredible , weight is fairly light for a full size full strength flashlight... And they each came with both AC and DC charging adapters. So while I have never met a flashlight / illumination device I didn't like, I am totally into Streamlight and buy once cry once. I have just bought a bunch of smaller sized Streamlight pocket and keychain sized lights for Christmas presents and will be getting a TLR-1HP or two for some shotguns... They just really give you incredible value, IMHO.

Turbo what brake/comp do you have or suggest/recommend?

Just wanted to share with ya'll an outstanding experience I had just this past Monday at the Oxford Valley Dick's... the situation went from bad, to worse, to unbelievably terrible, to outstanding and awesome all because of one hard working kid and 3 different managers. Basically I had done a lot of firearms portfolio shopping from mid october to mid november... Got me a few new toys and a LOT of accessories to go with them,. I prefer shopping at Dicks whenever possible- generally they treat me MUCH BETTER than the two local gunshops, CMO and Sportsmans Center, their prices are almost invariably better, but really its their customer service and customer retention / attention versus the terrible treatment I get at CMO and indifferent I get at Sportsmans that makes a big difference to me. I have already bought about 6 longguns from Dick's in thje past 2, 2.5 yrs (4 or so from Oxford Valley, 2 from Princeton) and I like them. I bought a Remington 700 SPS Tactical AAC-SD .308 from CMO the day after Election Day. I was going to buy a $1-$1300 scope from them too, but they started suddenly treating me so poorly, then when I bought the Saiga 12 from them 3 days after the Remington 700, and their "co-owner" Rocky COMPLETELY disrespected and insulted me (story is elsewhere) I vowed, Never again spend a dime, and DEFINITELY not buying the Leupold scope *AND* EOTech holographic sight I was about to buy *(For my new Remington 700 and the EOTech as an additional Christmas present for my dad for theSaiga 12). So I looked online a lot, wound up really liking a Nikon Monarch... I had compared the Leupold VX3 / VX3L 4.5-14x50mm Illuminated Reticle Boone & Crockett and really liked it, then I tried it side by side the Nikon Monarch, and Zeiss Conquest, and was like, I lke this one,, AT THE VERY LEAST *equally* and actually I think I like it better... and decided to shop online for the best prices. I finally decided to "pull the trigger" two Sundays ago, and was online at Dick's Sporting Good's website (I like them plus they had a great price normally) and was about to buy the Nikon Monarch 5-20x44mm Side Focus (SF) Bullet Drop Compensator (BDC) Reticle scope, i realized I needed to get up, get my wallet from jacket...to get the credit card to pay. Well dog sees my pick up my jacket, he starts howling and a -growling for a walk, and he wasn't taking no for an answer. So I had to take him for a walk, by the time i got back 30 mins later the computer had went to sleep, and I lost temporary motivation to complete the transaction. I went to sleep. Well I woke up Monday Morning and had a "CYBER MONDAY" 25% off One Item and Free Shipping at Dick's ... SO I SAID, Damned Straight, I was about to buy this last night, now I can save 25% 12 hours later... SOLD. I promptly buy it and save me a ton of cash,. ON TOP OF THE FACT I saved 100% by not spending DOUBLE the price of the Nikon Monarch for the Leupold I was going to buy from CMO. Well it came in a week later, and I mounted it. I had previously had CMO's very nice gunsmith "Pierre?" I think install a Leupold base and rings while I was waiting for 2 hours NICS check. So I installed the scope but I could not get it nearly sighted in with my cheapo Bushnell boresighter. I assumed I had not had the proper arbors or my laser was junk, tried the old fashioned way, but I was not even close. So after a few days I decided to take it to Dick's, they offer these services for people to pay them but I had bought it from their company's website so the person on the phone told me it would be completely free. Well to move the story along, the kid helping me could not get it even close either, he showed me. We were not in the same league,. he said, I think it's defective bud, you should return it. I mentioned I thought my box had either been opened before I got it, tampered with, or was most likely already a return, he was like, That's it dude we are returning it on the spot and getting you another one. HERE IS WHERE THE STORY GETS GOING- He gets the first manager involved and explains how they have to return it (with no box, no receipt, no accessories, because they knew I was a good customer) and they will also refund me the FULL RETAIL PRICE so I can order a new one with the discount built in. We go to their store computer, load the website, AND NO NIKON MONARCH 5-20's... NONE. I am like < DUDE I ordered this like 8 days ago!!!! They say, yeah must be sold out... the only thing comparable i the 6-24x50mm but it's a Nikoplex reticle, bigger obviously, and $100 more. The manager says, look I will take half off the difference for you because of the defective product... NOW I really *DID NOT WANT* a bigger scope (6-24x50mm is fine but it's not exactly what I wanted), I REALLY Did not want the Nikoplex vs. the BDC reticle, and I CERTAINLY did not want to spend more cash. They understood, but pointed out, there was nothing close on their website, they checked there was no other stores with inventory anywhere close (They don't carry their "super premium" optics on the stores) and all they had was cheaper, much less scopes (I think the best they could have done was a 2.5-10x42mm)... So I reluctantly agreed and the guy said I would get $50 off the $100 difference [and of course be getting a larger , more powerful scope]. So while we are using their computer to "order" me another Nikon , their is a problem with the checkout. Something happened, because everything had to be done with gift cards, I had a $500 gift card, a $63.50 gift card [maximum of 500 on one, balance of return on the other for 563.50 or something], a $50 from the manager, and then a $62 gift card that i had to come out of pocket for to make the balance even and complete the purchase... We could not get it to work, it took like 10 mins of trying then calling their company to help....FINALLY we get the 4 gift-cards to square and proceed to order it, AND SOMEONE ELSE BOUGHT THAT SCOPE OUT FROM UNDER ME!!!!! WHILE I was trying to order it someone else ordered it, and that was the last one!!!! I WAS SO PO'd bros I can't describe it. The manager who had taken over helping me was amazed and shocked and they were like, Hmm.. Sorry? So they start calling and looking online *** NO ONE STORE IN THE USA *** could be found carrying the Nikon Monarch. I pointed out, look I really didn't want the 6-20x50mm for more money Anyway, can we look for the original 5-20x44mm BDC please? STILL NOTHING. for 30 mins they tried every place in America they could contact, nothing. The manager had third manager come over, these two younger gents (vs the like 50-60 year old manager who helped me first) were like, WE WILL Take care of you somehow, even if we have to give you all your money back. I said, I will take cash of course, but they pointed out (RIGHTFULLY SO) if I took my cash and went home, and went online to order it from somewhere else, I would be forfeiting my 25% off discount and free shipping so... e kept looking . NADA. They subtly asked, is there a different scope we offer on our site you would consider taking ? And I said very honestly, Look I don't want to sound like a D'bag, but , the only ones I would take would be the top end Leupold VX3/VX3L you have and or the Swarovski you have. ... the bare minimum I would take would be the Leupold VX3L 4.5-14x50mm you have online (Which would be double the price, $1099), would prefer the 6.5-20x56mm VX3L ($1299-$1599 depending on the reticle), and would consider the 3.5-18x44 Swarovski ($1499.) or a few different Zeiss's , minimum $899 thru $1499 depending on size and magnification and reticle.. I pointed out, and they did seem to agree, it's not that i was trying to be a punk and say, I only want the double and triple priced for 1/2 or 1/3 the price, they were the only scopes equal to the Nikon Monarch in size/magnification with an equal or in these cases greater reputation...I said and they agreed, the Leupold's would be about a wash quality wise, I'd call it a tie they agreed, and the Zeiss and/or Swarovski would be an upgrade for me but in this case there wasn't a lot to do about it because there was no other options to really get me the same ... so I said, I'd probably take and be happy with one of those Leupold VX3L's, Zeiss or Swarovski high ends, but can you swing that? They didn't really answer yes or no but seemed like they MIGHT have done it but weren't sure really. The manager's did both assure me, LISTEN, we've already spent like 2 hours on you, WE WILL NOT STOP until you are completely satisfied, be it leaving with your cash completely refunded, getting you the same scope, getting you something comparable or better you are completely happy with, but if you have to spend the day with us, you'll leave happy... One even offered to pay for me to go have lunch (At Taco Bell loool) on him while they worked, I politely declined and said I;d rather see this through. As I was sort of hinting, you know, I would probably take one of this Swarovski or Zeiss's and be done with it..... The one manager comes over to the other manager and suggests, "Why don't we just order him exactly what he wants from somewhere else?" the other manager is like, "I think that would be the best idea' and the kid from the Hunting Lodge department who worked TIRELESSLY for me was like, That needs to make sure we get him EXACTLY the scope he wanted/wants, the 5-20x44mm BDC SF scope, NOT The other one/ones he was going to settle for / spend more for something he wanted less... And they did just that, they found a place that had it, ordered it to their store, *AND THEN*... this is where it gets great. One manager gave me a $50 gift card for my troubles. ANOTHER manager gave me $100 credit on the purchase for my troubles, which he said, we're gonna re-ring you through the register, having refunded everything earlier we'll re ring you up. When they re-rang me, the Monarch came up as a "Gun" which they had a sale on , $40 off guns over $500-$999, so I pocketed the $50 gift card, PLUS he had given me a $100 credit and then $40 came off as a sale price, so the cashier handed me ANOTHER gift card with like $140 on it... *AND* the kid said, when the scope comes in, we'll mount it, I will get you a set of upgraded rings for mounting it on the store's dime because of the issues we had.... So I have a BRAND NEW Nikon Monarch 5-20x44mm BDC SF coming in, I left with like $190+ in gift cards to spend there, (When I mentioned I wanted to spend it all on .308 Ammo for my rifle, they said when you come back in "We'll take care of you on that too"), I will be getting a new set of upgraded rings for mounting it, they are going to mount and boresight it for me .... and I could not be happier. I mean truly , this situation just kept getting crazier and then it ended extremely well... I mean I could not be happier. Anyway Oxford Valley/ Fairless Hills Dick's Sporting Goods earned a CUSTOMER FOR LIFE and it was an extremely beneficial ending for me, I tell you all this because if you are in need I strongly suggest you go there. The young gentleman who helped me this time's name was Jim, another young gentleman who previously helped me / sold me my 870 Tactical his name is Anthony, both extremely polite, hard working , energetic and extremely customer service oriented, and the 3 managers I dealt with were absolutely not going to stop until I was totally satisfied.... HIGHLY HIGHLY Recommended After my terrible treatment REPEATEDLY at CMO despite several purchases, this place was like a COUNTRY CLUB comparatively ....

Yeah I hear ya, and I thank you for your warnings- I did some sizeable research too and for every person complaining about ProMag I saw a ton of positive reviews, and a lot of people said they were absolutely fine etc. and they have a lot of sizes / shapes/ price advantages too... I saw a lot of ppl say their guns were happier with ProMag over SGM and at a lot of discount too so, I am gonna try them for him, if they don't work I will make MidwayUSA return them. I am a pretty good custome with MidwayUSA and since mid october I've spent a few thousand so they treat me pretty good. THANK YOU tho for your concern and warning sir

My father's department was basically the first / one of the first anyway in NJ and the greater region to go with Glock ... in the late late 80's he was assigned by the chief to deal with the transition to semi automatic 9mm and decide the platform they would go with. I am thinking that the Glock 2nd generation had just come out and while the military had already chosen the Beretta 92F to become their pistol, the Glock had been the forerunner for my old mans department. One of the things that sealed the deal was, they (Glock ppl) had made a big deal of showing the cops how easy it was to field strip and even field strip blindfolded, and made a comment like, "it's so easy a kid could do it -- blindfolded!" So my pop was like, We'll see about that! And took a demo home that night, and at the kitchen table taught me how it was to be field stripped, had me do it till i got comfortable, then took off his tie and we used it as a blindfold, and presto, I could do it blindfolded, (all like 8 or 9 years old of course who are trained and able to field strip and reassemble a Glock at the kitchen table LOL), and that was it, they went with Glock. Only a year or two later, not much time at all, having converted the entire department to the Glock 19 2nd gen 9mm, the Next Big Thing was the .40 S&W and how much better it was than 9mm and the entire department, *MAYBE* three years later at most, was now giving up the 9mm in favor of the .40 S&W, and everyone had to requalify/be reissued pistols, etc. There was the option to buy your 9mm which he did, we still have, it's amazing how much different yet the same it is to the new ones. So it's pretty safe for me to say I have been a Glock guy all my life, and will be for the foreseeable future. They are not fancy but they were not designed to be, they were designed to be a tool -- a life saving, deadnuts reliable , battle tested war fighting implement and that is exactly what they are... Just as it was in the late 80s and early 90s as my late Gen 3 G23 .40S&W is , not fancy but dead nuts reliable.

Thanks bro, it's for my Dad for Christmas but that basically means its available to me any time. he only wanted an autoloading shotgun for his defense, as a former LEO that was very involved in the switch from .38 revolver to the semi auto/ 9mm, he was extremely adamant the shotgun "just shoot when you pull the trigger and keep shooting when you keep on pulling the trigger". So I had planned on getting him a M930 which is what he looked at and liked, he was not about to spend DOUBLE on a 1187P or Benelli M2 Tac etc. But then when I mentioned there was one shotgun that had magazines, and explained how it basically was an AK, With changeable magazines, but a 12 gauge shotgun, he was in love lol. He is gonna be so happy

IMHO there is two majorly awesome choices for you to check out: The Remington 700 "SPS Tactical" (or the AAC-SD like I just got, but it's about 50-100 more) or the Savage Model 10 Precision Carbine. Both are available in .223 (And .308) - both have 20" Heavy Barrels (I believe),. - the 700 SPS Tactical has a 1:9 Twist as does the 10 Precision Carbine, the Remington comes with a Hogue OverMolded stock "with aluminum pillar bedding", the Savage comes with their AccuStock which might be the best synthetic stock from the factory you can get for the money, the Rem will be OD Green color the Savage is Army style digital camo. I had got out of the .223 caliber and my new Remington 700 AAC-SD is a .308 , but if I was in .223 and wanted or needed a bolt action / tactical style "sniper rifle" I would be definitely buying one of the two. the Savage would be the best to set it and forget it, all good to go out the box, the Remington 700 would be the best for upgrading, tinkering, aftermarket parts.

OK questions still- I just dropped about $250 on ProMag magazines for my old man's new Saiga 12... now I still have a few things to buy... I need the quad rail and then an optic (Probably an Aimpoint but perhaps an EOTech) and a muzzle brake or flash hider. I am not sure what would be more desirable, a flash hider or a muzzle brake. I saw one Muzzle Brake for the Saiga 12 that looks an AWFUL lot like my Tactical RemChoke on my new 870, does anyone use or recommend a muzzle device for their Saiga 12? And the handguard, if anyone has a particular quad rail hand guard. I was going to buy the Midwest Industries but apparently that is for Saiga RIFLES, not Saiga shotguns?

LOL I feel the same way, I was never able to buy a new stock for my Remington 597 or even Savage Mark II because I could never decide on what I liked lol! For the 597 I kept going back and forth with the TactiCool, the really nice and bright shiny Laminate stocks, or even the thumbhole lol. Boyd's is really nice and also really reasonably priced. Also you can check Stocky's Stocks I thinktoo. For my Savage Mark II, I have a GXP, which is a basic wooden stock - but it is BEAUTIFUL imho. It is REALLY classy for such a cheap little rifle and it has really nice checkering, grain , coloration, etc. I could not replace it because it looked so great already, it reminds me of a Browning A-Bolt and it's just a little Savage .22LR.

Right when the PAP was getting a lot of sales/posts online in the NJ community/country community in early summer 2010, they were like $9 bucks online. Then ppl connected the dots and saw that the PAP was getting a LOT of popularity, the magazine was the achillies heel, and there was none to be had, the WASR 10 single stack mags got more expensive. Hal I don't want to say this in a wierd way but I'm sure if you found some that were good looking (ie not terrible eastern european milsurp crud) and good prices and picked them up I would take them, if not me i would tell my Dad to (I bought him a PAP for his 60th in 2010 and was only able to find a few mags for him). I had to sell my PAP right after I bought it, for paying a huge vet bill for my pup at the time, but then I got more cash and bought him the PAP for his bday, so he still has it. if you see some lemme know bro.

I'm pretty sure there are a few different "wood" 870 setups too, for example the original 870P Police model wood furniture is different than the 870 Wingmaster wood furniture, and so forth.

While technically the SKY is not the limit, i believe a pump shotgun's capacity would fall under the overall 15 round limit we have in NJ, no? -- REGARDLESS, yeah man, on an 870 you can have an adjustable stock, pistol grip, mag extension, muzzle device, and evil shiny black color just for good measure. I just decked out my new 870 and im in the process of having it sent out to be "870-Police'd " customized.... I love it. My M930SPX is my BABY, but my new 870 is my newest best friend.

I have had trouble finding these (Short of paying $50 a piece from the former importer) since summer 2010 , when I bought two of these rifles. Late 2010 it started hitting that single stack WaSR 10 magazines worked, and some company somewhere in the country that was selling PAPs online pretty good bought *like every available WASR 10 single stack mag* in the interwebs to put on their website. By the time Christmas time 2010 rolled around, and I found a place selling them, when I went to place my order the guy was like, "We had sold a few hundred and were asked for thousands more if we could get them, all sold out, no more sorry..." and it's been hard to find since then. I'm not saying there is none anywhere, like I said I found them for $50 a piece for the junky factory mags on EAA's website, that just isnt' happening for me, they are waaaaay overpriced in that case.